OFFICIAL 2009 Rx8 info!!!! Info Sheet, Order Form, Spec Deck and Colors INSIDE!!!
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OFFICIAL 2009 Rx8 info!!!! Info Sheet, Order Form, Spec Deck and Colors INSIDE!!!
As most of you know the 2009 Rx8 is upon us. I've aquired some addition info for you rotor heads about some of it's newer updates that you don't see in the pics that are floating around here. I tried searching but couldn't find any threads about some of the specifics of what Mazda has actually upgraded for the 2009 model year. With that said here are some things that Mazda has changed that actually suprised me.
1. Most of you knew about the oil dipstick access panel. This was redesigned to have an even longer dip stick to check the oil. So it's not just a cover.
2. The new electric oil metering pump is actually two units and is now located on top of the engine. My EPC (Electronic Parts Catalog) shows a really confusing diagram of it. One pump flows metering oil to 4 nozzles while the 2nd unit flows to two more nozzles. Possibly high rpm/load dependent? So now each rotor housing has 3 injection nozzles like the 16x.
3. The oil filter is now located on the lower left side front cover. Nice touch for easier access but here's the kicker, the oil pump is completely redesigned and looks nothing like the previous versions. Maybe the newer pump has upgraded flow capabilities?
4. Redesigned larger capacity oil pan. It's about time!
5. Redesigned larger capacity fuel tank. This is a much needed addition since the manual tranny is mated to 4.77 rear end gear ratios. This thing is gonna drink some fuel.
6. Miata 6speed Manual transmission. I think most new about this already!
7. One touch auto drivers and passengers windows.
8. Added aux input jack.
Options include:
9. Ceterpoint BOSE sound system.
10. AUTO air conditioning.
11. Touch screen navigation.
12. Bluetooth Hand-Free Telephone.
If most of you are wondering how I got this info, that's because I sell Mazda parts at my local dealer.
Oh yea! I tried to get pricing on some things but that info is currently unavailable. I may have more info next month when I get another update on my EPC.
Take care!
mod edit:
US COLOR COMBOS http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...wcfizD6z_tUpDA
Spec Deck!! https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1206110683
INFO SHEET https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1206480691
ORDER FORM https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1206480691
1. Most of you knew about the oil dipstick access panel. This was redesigned to have an even longer dip stick to check the oil. So it's not just a cover.
2. The new electric oil metering pump is actually two units and is now located on top of the engine. My EPC (Electronic Parts Catalog) shows a really confusing diagram of it. One pump flows metering oil to 4 nozzles while the 2nd unit flows to two more nozzles. Possibly high rpm/load dependent? So now each rotor housing has 3 injection nozzles like the 16x.
3. The oil filter is now located on the lower left side front cover. Nice touch for easier access but here's the kicker, the oil pump is completely redesigned and looks nothing like the previous versions. Maybe the newer pump has upgraded flow capabilities?
4. Redesigned larger capacity oil pan. It's about time!
5. Redesigned larger capacity fuel tank. This is a much needed addition since the manual tranny is mated to 4.77 rear end gear ratios. This thing is gonna drink some fuel.
6. Miata 6speed Manual transmission. I think most new about this already!
7. One touch auto drivers and passengers windows.
8. Added aux input jack.
Options include:
9. Ceterpoint BOSE sound system.
10. AUTO air conditioning.
11. Touch screen navigation.
12. Bluetooth Hand-Free Telephone.
If most of you are wondering how I got this info, that's because I sell Mazda parts at my local dealer.
Oh yea! I tried to get pricing on some things but that info is currently unavailable. I may have more info next month when I get another update on my EPC.
Take care!
mod edit:
US COLOR COMBOS http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...wcfizD6z_tUpDA
Spec Deck!! https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1206110683
INFO SHEET https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1206480691
ORDER FORM https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1206480691
Last edited by T-von; 03-13-2008 at 06:32 PM.
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thanks i was thinking about a thread like this- all this info is on the forum already but it seems to be spread out in a way that allot of people arent seeing it, judging from some questions i have seen the last day or so.
diagram of e-mop nozzles
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205447569
diagram of e-mop nozzles
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205447569
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FC R type trannies
Now that is the one thing that I would like to retrofit onto my 06... I wonder how close they match up or if the front subframe is also re-designed to accommodate it.
Now that is the one thing that I would like to retrofit onto my 06... I wonder how close they match up or if the front subframe is also re-designed to accommodate it.
Last edited by Icemark; 03-13-2008 at 06:43 PM.
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So, with all of the oil related changes, are you going to have to add oil less frequently to the 2009?
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Here is a pic.
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So, with all of the oil related changes, are you going to have to add oil less frequently to the 2009?
On a side note, all these oil system related changes are way outside anything I felt Mazda would ever do. From the Cosmos to the Rx series vehicles of the 70's, Mazda has been consistant in how they engineer the lubrication system. I just hope these changes stay relaible.
Last edited by T-von; 03-13-2008 at 09:50 PM.
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gas tank larger? 1 gallon or what?
larger oil pan? What does it hold now? 7 quarts in place of 6?
My GOD people. Forget about the 4.77 gear. I believe it is only available on the R3 with 19" wheels.
The 19" wheels will off-set the gearing and make it the same as ours.
A 4.77 gear w/ 18" would be an improvement.
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Thats easy! A RP short shifter.
gas tank larger? 1 gallon or what?
larger oil pan? What does it hold now? 7 quarts in place of 6?
My GOD people. Forget about the 4.77 gear. I believe it is only available on the R3 with 19" wheels.
The 19" wheels will off-set the gearing and make it the same as ours.
A 4.77 gear w/ 18" would be an improvement.
gas tank larger? 1 gallon or what?
larger oil pan? What does it hold now? 7 quarts in place of 6?
My GOD people. Forget about the 4.77 gear. I believe it is only available on the R3 with 19" wheels.
The 19" wheels will off-set the gearing and make it the same as ours.
A 4.77 gear w/ 18" would be an improvement.
Gas tank! I currently don't have any capacity numbers. Same goes for the oil pan. The 4.77 ring gear is standard on all manual tranny cars, not just the R3. Lastly the 19" wheels shouldn't change the rolling diameter if Mazda offsets the larger wheels with a lower profile tire. They already do this with the current 16"-18" wheels. I know this as the speed sensors are just one part number per corner and are not wheel specific meaning they are used for both suspensions and wheel sizes. Having two different rolling diameter tires means Mazda would have two different sensors and additional programing to read both.
Last edited by T-von; 03-14-2008 at 10:30 AM.
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Thats easy! A RP short shifter.
gas tank larger? 1 gallon or what?
larger oil pan? What does it hold now? 7 quarts in place of 6?
My GOD people. Forget about the 4.77 gear. I believe it is only available on the R3 with 19" wheels.
The 19" wheels will off-set the gearing and make it the same as ours.
A 4.77 gear w/ 18" would be an improvement.
gas tank larger? 1 gallon or what?
larger oil pan? What does it hold now? 7 quarts in place of 6?
My GOD people. Forget about the 4.77 gear. I believe it is only available on the R3 with 19" wheels.
The 19" wheels will off-set the gearing and make it the same as ours.
A 4.77 gear w/ 18" would be an improvement.
#16
****UPDATE - I HAVE THE CONFIRMED '09 RATIOS, AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT. 3RD is 1.536, and 6TH is .787... so, good news for cruising, bad news for 3-4 rev drop. They should have just changed 6th. I will updated these charts accordingly, but another time. Cocktails are calling!****
I figured I'd start a new thread because my gear chart got buried pages deep within the misinformation of the other thread.
The 'strengthened' transmission, is acutally the MX-5 transmission. I saw a new RX-8 version of it when I was in the Mazda Tech center in Irvine last month. This is 100% confirmed. Completely different transmission, with slightly different ratios than the current Aisin box.
Provided the ratios don't change from the MX-5 transmission, the following should be a very accurate gear chart showing the differences between an '04-'08 car and the '09 R3. I omitted 1st gear from this, but first is significantly shorter, so it will run out sooner.
I'll work to verify that the ratios aren't going to change. We hope to have a test-mule transmission here to play with in a month or so, and when we do I'll let everyone know how it holds up.
Car (1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th FD)
04-'08' RX-8 (3.760 - 2.269 - 1.645 - 1.187 - 1.000 - 0.843 - 4.440)
09' RX-8 R3 (3.815 - 2.260 - 1.640 - 1.177 - 1.000 - 0.832 - 4.770)
Revs @60, '04-'08 RX-8 - 2nd - 8391.9 / 3rd - 6084.1 / 4th - 4390.1 / 5th - 3698.5 / 6th - 3117.9
Revs @60, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd - 8807.4 / 3rd - 6391.2 / 4th -4586.9 / 5th - 3897.1 / 6th - 3242.4
Speed @Redline, '04-'08 RX-8 - 2nd - 63.6 / 3rd - 87.8 / 4th - 121.6 / 5th - 144.4 / 6th - 171.3
Speed @Redline, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd - 60.6 / 3rd - 83.6 / 4th - 116.4 / 5th - 137.0 / 6th - 164.7
Rev drop, '04-'07 RX-8 - 2nd to 3rd - 6746.7 / 3rd to 4th - 6715.0 / 4th to 5th - 7839.9 / 5th to 6th - 7845.0
Rev drop, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd to 3rd - 6885.3 / 3rd to 4th - 6809.6 / 4th to 5th - 8061.4 / 5th to 6th - 7894.2
I figured I'd start a new thread because my gear chart got buried pages deep within the misinformation of the other thread.
The 'strengthened' transmission, is acutally the MX-5 transmission. I saw a new RX-8 version of it when I was in the Mazda Tech center in Irvine last month. This is 100% confirmed. Completely different transmission, with slightly different ratios than the current Aisin box.
Provided the ratios don't change from the MX-5 transmission, the following should be a very accurate gear chart showing the differences between an '04-'08 car and the '09 R3. I omitted 1st gear from this, but first is significantly shorter, so it will run out sooner.
I'll work to verify that the ratios aren't going to change. We hope to have a test-mule transmission here to play with in a month or so, and when we do I'll let everyone know how it holds up.
Car (1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th FD)
04-'08' RX-8 (3.760 - 2.269 - 1.645 - 1.187 - 1.000 - 0.843 - 4.440)
09' RX-8 R3 (3.815 - 2.260 - 1.640 - 1.177 - 1.000 - 0.832 - 4.770)
Revs @60, '04-'08 RX-8 - 2nd - 8391.9 / 3rd - 6084.1 / 4th - 4390.1 / 5th - 3698.5 / 6th - 3117.9
Revs @60, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd - 8807.4 / 3rd - 6391.2 / 4th -4586.9 / 5th - 3897.1 / 6th - 3242.4
Speed @Redline, '04-'08 RX-8 - 2nd - 63.6 / 3rd - 87.8 / 4th - 121.6 / 5th - 144.4 / 6th - 171.3
Speed @Redline, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd - 60.6 / 3rd - 83.6 / 4th - 116.4 / 5th - 137.0 / 6th - 164.7
Rev drop, '04-'07 RX-8 - 2nd to 3rd - 6746.7 / 3rd to 4th - 6715.0 / 4th to 5th - 7839.9 / 5th to 6th - 7845.0
Rev drop, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd to 3rd - 6885.3 / 3rd to 4th - 6809.6 / 4th to 5th - 8061.4 / 5th to 6th - 7894.2
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to add to the info i present some pics mined from the rx8 japan website. not all of these accessories will be available here of course
http://www.rx-8.mazda.co.jp/
aux in socket
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521432
available backup cam
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521432
heads up display blind spot monitor
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521432
http://www.rx-8.mazda.co.jp/
aux in socket
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521432
available backup cam
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521432
heads up display blind spot monitor
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521432
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i dont know what this is
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
ipod integration
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
3 position memory seat for driver
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
security to let you know someone might be in the car?
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
Nemisis8 will love these MS guages
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
ipod integration
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
3 position memory seat for driver
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
security to let you know someone might be in the car?
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
Nemisis8 will love these MS guages
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205521706
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rear fog
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522021
dont know what this is . guesses?
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522021
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522021
dont know what this is . guesses?
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522021
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so this si the seat colors
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
color combination chart
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
filled cross members
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
bilsteins i believe
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
under carriage showing changes
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
color combination chart
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
filled cross members
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
bilsteins i believe
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218
under carriage showing changes
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1205522218