8c competizione by ALFA ROMEO
09-18-2006, 11:13 PM
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Part of the reason for buying a new Vette is that I want to build a supercharger for it. As soon as the Rx8 SC is done I want to upscale it for V-8 size engines and the Vette is my primary market. Hymee tells me that there are alot of Ls1's and Ls2's down under. In fact he tells me there are many more then there are 8's.
That's how I see it here. If I have a universal kit for small blocks there should be a constant number of monthly sales forever. It's a bottomless pit. My freind who owns Airflow Research makes heads and I can't beleive that the sales never stop after all these years numbers keep going up. You'd think they would reach a saturation point. How many engines are left with no heads?
I realize that racers never stop buying new ones as they use them up, but street guys don't need the latest trick head every week.
That's how I see it here. If I have a universal kit for small blocks there should be a constant number of monthly sales forever. It's a bottomless pit. My freind who owns Airflow Research makes heads and I can't beleive that the sales never stop after all these years numbers keep going up. You'd think they would reach a saturation point. How many engines are left with no heads?
I realize that racers never stop buying new ones as they use them up, but street guys don't need the latest trick head every week.
09-18-2006, 11:25 PM
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Woa i though that i had gone thru a number of cars , i will have to show D " wife your list .
Richard does all this posting mean that you have the supercharger kit finished ready to ship to OZ ??
Michael
Woa i though that i had gone thru a number of cars , i will have to show D " wife your list .
Richard does all this posting mean that you have the supercharger kit finished ready to ship to OZ ??
Michael
09-18-2006, 11:51 PM
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It's in my car and we are changing ECU's and haven't found the right combo yet.
We are working on getting some of the parts like the intake manifold productionized. One unit does not make a production line.
We still have a couple of compressors we want to swap out.
Anyway the manifold and the gears are built by others and it will take some lead time. We still plan on being at sevenstock with the car and an engine on a stand with SC mounted. We may even take some deposits or start a list at that time.
We are working on getting some of the parts like the intake manifold productionized. One unit does not make a production line.
We still have a couple of compressors we want to swap out.
Anyway the manifold and the gears are built by others and it will take some lead time. We still plan on being at sevenstock with the car and an engine on a stand with SC mounted. We may even take some deposits or start a list at that time.
09-19-2006, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
It's in my car and we are changing ECU's and haven't found the right combo yet.
We are working on getting some of the parts like the intake manifold productionized. One unit does not make a production line.
We still have a couple of compressors we want to swap out.
Anyway the manifold and the gears are built by others and it will take some lead time. We still plan on being at sevenstock with the car and an engine on a stand with SC mounted. We may even take some deposits or start a list at that time.
We are working on getting some of the parts like the intake manifold productionized. One unit does not make a production line.
We still have a couple of compressors we want to swap out.
Anyway the manifold and the gears are built by others and it will take some lead time. We still plan on being at sevenstock with the car and an engine on a stand with SC mounted. We may even take some deposits or start a list at that time.
Get your Bourbon sculling mate from Downunder to solve the ECU Combos
You have the most compact Specifically Designed RX8 Supercharger on the Market Hymee has the ECU solution maybe a Marriage is in order
, Michael
09-19-2006, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
"Bourbon sculling mate" who might that be? 
And I'd wanna marry him??
Where do you guys come up with these things??
And I'd wanna marry him??
Where do you guys come up with these things??
that no one has come up with a definite Supercharger KIT for the RX8 after 3 years of triyng 
.Are you saying that the HYMSTER DOENST DO BOURBON ANYMORE SINCE HE DROPED 25KG IN WEIGHT
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09-19-2006, 04:27 PM
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Michael...you seem to have forgotten Rotor Master / DNA Motorsport ?!
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09-19-2006, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly8
From the research i have done i personally believe the Centrifugal supercharger used by Rotormaster is not the most suitable for the RX8
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09-19-2006, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly8
From the research i have done i personally believe the Centrifugal supercharger used by Rotormaster is not the most suitable for the RX8
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I can't believe you wrote that
09-19-2006, 06:30 PM
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Jeez, I know Michael is the fave whipping boy and he doesn't do himself any favours by the manner in which he expresses himself sometimes but let's read between the lines here instead of just laying into him. 
Perhaps he's just read the extensive FI posts by Hymee and RP and has formed the conclusion that the solution they're working on is a better one. Whether that view is right or wrong, he's entitled to express it.
I've got a lot of time for the guys at RotorMaster/DNA, as I've said many times previously and their S/C kit deserves respect. But that doesn't mean we can't form the view that perhaps other alternatives will be better again (assuming they're ever released locally or available to import).
Perhaps he's just read the extensive FI posts by Hymee and RP and has formed the conclusion that the solution they're working on is a better one. Whether that view is right or wrong, he's entitled to express it.
I've got a lot of time for the guys at RotorMaster/DNA, as I've said many times previously and their S/C kit deserves respect. But that doesn't mean we can't form the view that perhaps other alternatives will be better again (assuming they're ever released locally or available to import).
09-19-2006, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
Surely opinions should be evidence-based?
We needn't support every view expressed in here with a footnoted, peer reviewed thesis just to satisfy your preferences.
We can all individually decide whether to agree with something someone else has said or ask for clarification if we want to debate it, without denigrating the person who has offered it.
Even if it's just some mild bullshitting, that is not exactly unheard of when people talk cars (or other leisure pastimes) and it can be entertaining.
Michael's expressed view stands alone. He did not set out to convince anyone - he was merely saying that according to what he's read he does not think the centrifugal option is necessarily the most suitable solution. Why is that such a big deal? Why should that be evidence-based?
Your reaction is the very thing that you have criticised in other FI threads - i.e. being emotive and dismissive instead of contributing something useful.
Sorry - is this response too long for you?
09-19-2006, 11:21 PM
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Yes it is And of course you don't need footnotes....gimme a break :roll:
No, I disagree. Of course there's a lot of 'pub talk' here, but even in a much less formal environment you should be prepared to be challenged as to the evidence on which you base an opinion, should you choose to express it openly. Otherwise, it is all ego, and nothing is contributed to the collective knowledge of the group
And of course you don't need footnotes....gimme a break :roll:No, I disagree. Of course there's a lot of 'pub talk' here, but even in a much less formal environment you should be prepared to be challenged as to the evidence on which you base an opinion, should you choose to express it openly. Otherwise, it is all ego, and nothing is contributed to the collective knowledge of the group
09-19-2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
Yes it is And of course you don't need footnotes....gimme a break :roll:
No, I disagree. Of course there's a lot of 'pub talk' here, but even in a much less formal environment you should be prepared to be challenged as to the evidence on which you base an opinion, should you choose to express it openly. Otherwise, it is all ego, and nothing is contributed to the collective knowledge of the group
And of course you don't need footnotes....gimme a break :roll:No, I disagree. Of course there's a lot of 'pub talk' here, but even in a much less formal environment you should be prepared to be challenged as to the evidence on which you base an opinion, should you choose to express it openly. Otherwise, it is all ego, and nothing is contributed to the collective knowledge of the group
However, instead of the point and laugh "I can't believe you wrote that" response - which is usually just going to elicit anger and start a flame war - why not just ask him why he thinks that? Surely that is more likely to increase collective knowledge than merely inferring that someone is an idiot for daring to express an opinion?
09-20-2006, 12:48 AM
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Of course you are correct....and there's no doubt that's the approach I may have taken with someone ...'less experienced'
Michael, I apologise for inferring you are an idiot. Please enlighten us as to the basis upon which you have reached the view that the ProCharger is not the suitable for the RX-8
Michael, I apologise for inferring you are an idiot. Please enlighten us as to the basis upon which you have reached the view that the ProCharger is not the suitable for the RX-8
09-20-2006, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly8
From the research i have done i personally believe the Centrifugal supercharger used by Rotormaster is not the most suitable for the RX8
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NOT the most suitable , IMOH based on my reading in How stuff works , and by doing my own searches on various types of Superchargers that are way more recent design than the outdated centrifugal one IMOH .
http://www.coloradocobras.com/whippl...rchargers.html
A high teck car deserves the latest up to date Turbo / Supercharger .
One that gives it power were its most needed down low especially in the case of the RX8 .
Michael
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09-28-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
Thanks for the pics Michael...but I still think it has a fat ****.
Carefull the Feminist will have your kiszkas for that comment ,
but i tend to agree the shape all together is a bit of a mishmash .Michael
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