FunkyR

Hi guys, I've tried to search for these, but have had no luck.... anyone know the specs??

rpm_pwr

No such thing as AUDM. All Series 8's here are imports.

FunkyR

i see... what about series 6 & 7?

rpm_pwr

Officially 176kW (230HP) from 1993 - 1997
In reality:
230HP 'til 9/93 (type 1)
255HP 10/93 - 95 (type 2,3 upgrade vins FD1032-FD1033)
260?HP 96-98 (types 4,5)

Torque was 300kg.m in 93. Car came as standard FD with:
Euro emissions gear
Leather seats
Cruise
Sunroof
Optional: Bose sound, fog lights

Colours:
Montego Blue, Vintage Red, Brilliant Black
Silver was added in around '94, polar white in '96. Montego Blue was dropped, not sure when.

What did you want to know exactly?

AMG

I have a '98 Montego blue series 7, good performance, suspension a bit soft in the twisties though.

rpm_pwr

Well there you go it wasn't dropped. The rear stabilizer was softened on the type 2 FD's to appease magazine critics which totally ruined the feel of the car, but did make it easier to drive. A 92/93 import (with no sunroof) always feels 'stiffer' than later models.

All oz springs were the same as the manual Jap R-spec sprigs AFAIK.

AMG

Mine is totally stock bought new Oct 98 and only doen 26,000 km's.

RX8 has better suspension set up IMHO.

Did a search of past models on the MA site, would you believe they don't mention the FD. I lnow they didn't make much money on it but to totally leave it off their website is a bit poor.

FunkyR

What was the last AUDM delivered RX7? Was it series 7? and what are the kW/Torque/weight specs?

takahashi

Is it the SP version?

I was looking at the board at City Mazda dealer.... the last RX-7 is the SP model? I can't remember what it is and the exact spec but the kW is about 190 odd if I remember correctly.

DMRH

Series-6 = 92-95 = 255ps............... Worldwide export


Series-7 = 96-98 = 265ps............... Japan + Australia


Series-8 = 99-02 = 280ps............... Japan

In Japanese terms.....

The FD Type-1-2-3 was officially 255ps
The FD Type-4 was officially 265ps
The FD Type-5-6 was offically 280ps

Taka.................... The RX-7 SP was a modified "series-6" from 95. There was a stillborn RX-7 SP-II from 98 which was based on the series-7 version.

rpm_pwr............. Since sales started here in MAR-92, shouldn't you revise the "Officially 93-97) part. Since "Officially from 92-98" would have been more accurate. Am aware of the 176kW/236Hp rating from Mazda Australia from the 92-98 sales period, Knew about the "Reality" part to 255Hp when they dropped the "pre-CAT" on the exhaust but didn't know this was done in 93. Will have to check into that part. Hmmmm

The 13B-REW from the JC Cosmo (90-95) was rated at 235ps FYI

takahashi

Thank DMRH... I was going to call for you if this issues has not been resolved by tonight.

Back to the question that FunkyR is asking...

Series 7 is the lastest and 265ps....? exact Weight and Torque?

rpm_pwr

The 98's were still 97 build though weren't they? You're right about the 92/3. It's just years of reading American forums I'm afraid I owned a 92 FD at one stage too :o

It actualy gets pretty complicated. After 10/93 they still had the pre-cat but got a new ECU with the new 12-9-10 pattern. My 94 made 161rwkW with a boost leak dead standard. Not sure what a proper standard type 2 makes. My Jap spec type 1 made less power and it was boosting fine!

So from what I gather early oz-spec cars were loaded with a pre-cat and terrible mapping so I wouldn't be surprised if they did make 230hp. When the type 2's were unofficially released the power went up but nobody knows how much they still had a precat though. The type 4's were a butchered Jap-spec series 7 because we missed out on the metal crossover pipe but got the revised airbox. Even more confusingly the US never got the type 2. They picked up a few fixes here and there (like the wheel casting fix and the newer cluster) but never got the newer radiator ducting or more boost.

I must say I never knew about the pre-cat being ditched that's really interesting! One thing is for sure, Mazda love creeping up the power without telling anyone so they don't have to re-test emmisions.

DMRH

I know a guy from a Mazda dealer in Sydney that took delivery of one of the last series-7's sold in OZ. It was a red one, delivered in Nov-98 & built in Jun-98. I know this as I crawled all over it back at that time & did a small piece in FF&R magazine on "The last delivery"

To show you the profit margins Mazda Australia place on the RX-7 (& RX-8). The list price in 98 was a rip-off $89K. During the last few months, Mazda Australia dropped $10k off the list price. ($79k) This guy got it for a much better price again, like another $10k better. ($69K)

At the time, the retail price in Japan was around $55k based on exchange rates from then.

Even though the Americans got their 92-model FD RX-7s from May-92, some with build dates of Jan-92, they call them a 93 model for reasons found only in the American hype/**** culture. Thankfully other countries are not this ridiculous & actually call a 92-model car a 92-model. Such a sad case that they did it again calling their 03-model RX-8's an 04-model despite starting sales in Jun-03. Even sader when they try to (un-effectively) tell you that an 03 car is an 04 car despite it being 03. Another way to understand, they try to explain that 1+1=3

Again, sighting the Mazda Australia rip-off-the-rotary-customer approach was the cause of the poor sales of the RX-7, so as Mazda Japan made changes, they where sneaked into the Aussie cars. An example is the tail lights, when the series-7 came on-line in 96, we got the car, but not the tail lights, they would have been noticable to authorities requiring Mazda to spend money on testing their complaince.

Had the car been properly priced, it would have sold very well & all updates would have been passed on after regulatory testing, hell we would have even gotten the series-8 if the "slow sales" excuse was the truth for not sending it here.

rpm_pwr

Yep that, for me will always be the saddest part of the story. The series 8 was the cheapest FD produced yet it was by far the more superior car produced. They were much faster and a lot more reliable, so would have sold well if they were priced appropriately here. Sadly, Mazda OZ saw how badly their hatchet series 7 was going and pulled the plug

I forgot about the taillights - it sort of fits with the cross-over pipe. Anything visibly obvious, didnt make it, just the stuff under the surface.