Blah! Another sad mpg tale!
03-03-2004, 08:41 PM
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Blah! Another sad mpg tale!
Following are my first month's results for the 8, compared to long term averages from my last two cars. All travelling the same weekly route to work, which involves some reasonably clear 90km/hr roads combined with the usual stop/start Sydney traffic snarl, plus of course "normal" weekend stuff:
2.8l VR6 Golf : 11.8 l/100km - this engine is hardly a paradigm of fuel efficiency.
2.5l BMW 3 series: 10.3 l/100km ( best ever result 7l/100km on a tediously steady run down the 110km/hr 'new' Hume- or whatever they call it these days!)
RX-8 : 16.1l/100km
Yup - a staggering 56% more fuel consumed than the Bimmer, in a car weighing around 100kg less. I can only hope this will improve as the engine frees up further. No wonder all that black sooty gunk gathers on the lower side of the exhaust pipe tips!
Can't say I wasn't warned though.....
2.8l VR6 Golf : 11.8 l/100km - this engine is hardly a paradigm of fuel efficiency.
2.5l BMW 3 series: 10.3 l/100km ( best ever result 7l/100km on a tediously steady run down the 110km/hr 'new' Hume- or whatever they call it these days!)
RX-8 : 16.1l/100km
Yup - a staggering 56% more fuel consumed than the Bimmer, in a car weighing around 100kg less. I can only hope this will improve as the engine frees up further. No wonder all that black sooty gunk gathers on the lower side of the exhaust pipe tips!
Can't say I wasn't warned though.....
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03-04-2004, 12:13 AM
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I believe in the old adage, "if you want economy, catch a bus".
Just wait till you buy a V8 or a turbo and then you'll see that the 8's economy's not too bad.
Or if you win the lotto and buy a Ferrari, prepare yourself to get 25-30L per 100km.... but if you had one, I guess you could afford the fuel bills.
I've had my 8 for over a month now and can't say that I am disappointed in the fuel consumption.
Believe it or not, I get 260-300kms from a full tank and I'm not the least worried or concerned.
Do the maths and you'll see you've got better consumption then me.
Just wait till you buy a V8 or a turbo and then you'll see that the 8's economy's not too bad.
Or if you win the lotto and buy a Ferrari, prepare yourself to get 25-30L per 100km.... but if you had one, I guess you could afford the fuel bills.
I've had my 8 for over a month now and can't say that I am disappointed in the fuel consumption.
Believe it or not, I get 260-300kms from a full tank and I'm not the least worried or concerned.
Do the maths and you'll see you've got better consumption then me.
03-04-2004, 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by skc
My vehicle has been averageing around 11l/100km with mostly city driving
My vehicle has been averageing around 11l/100km with mostly city driving
skc there's a flaw in your argument: Brisbane isn't a city, it's a country town mate, albeit a very pleasant and sunny one
:D :D 
03-04-2004, 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by nojooc
I believe in the old adage, "if you want economy, catch a bus".
Just wait till you buy a V8 or a turbo and then you'll see that the 8's economy's not too bad.
Or if you win the lotto and buy a Ferrari, prepare yourself to get 25-30L per 100km.... but if you had one, I guess you could afford the fuel bills.
I've had my 8 for over a month now and can't say that I am disappointed in the fuel consumption.
Believe it or not, I get 260-300kms from a full tank and I'm not the least worried or concerned.
Do the maths and you'll see you've got better consumption then me.
I believe in the old adage, "if you want economy, catch a bus".
Just wait till you buy a V8 or a turbo and then you'll see that the 8's economy's not too bad.
Or if you win the lotto and buy a Ferrari, prepare yourself to get 25-30L per 100km.... but if you had one, I guess you could afford the fuel bills.
I've had my 8 for over a month now and can't say that I am disappointed in the fuel consumption.
Believe it or not, I get 260-300kms from a full tank and I'm not the least worried or concerned.
Do the maths and you'll see you've got better consumption then me.
03-04-2004, 01:22 AM
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I got one of my better milages on tuesday when I filled. 512km out of 59L. I think that calc'ed to 11.5mpg. Nothing special, including traffic jams.
LS1 V8's are not too bad either. I find myself filling up with the same frequency as my SS (every 5 or 6 days), and the RX-8 is about $10 less each time.
Fuel efficency is one of the things you trade off to get an engine that is extremly small for its output, and allows the car to have a low CofG and ideal weight distribution. It is a total package. If I wanted more techno and less fuel, I would look at a Prius, and trade off performance.
Cheers,
Hymee.
LS1 V8's are not too bad either. I find myself filling up with the same frequency as my SS (every 5 or 6 days), and the RX-8 is about $10 less each time.
Fuel efficency is one of the things you trade off to get an engine that is extremly small for its output, and allows the car to have a low CofG and ideal weight distribution. It is a total package. If I wanted more techno and less fuel, I would look at a Prius, and trade off performance.
Cheers,
Hymee.
03-04-2004, 01:25 AM
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skc there's a flaw in your argument: Brisbane isn't a city, it's a country town mate, albeit a very pleasant and sunny one :D :D
skc there's a flaw in your argument: Brisbane isn't a city, it's a country town mate, albeit a very pleasant and sunny one
:D :D
Thanks for acknowledging the pleasentness of the place.
You mustn't have been here for a while. It is big enough. I wouldn't want it to get like Sydaney. :D
Cheers,
Hymee.
03-04-2004, 01:34 AM
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rev it up
yes, the mass migration from Sydney has turned this country town into a proper city...with yuppie coffee shops.
I have noticed the roads have become busier over the last couple of years. My commute went from 45min to 1 hour.
Ofcause I dont complain much since the Rx 8 arrived.
I have noticed the roads have become busier over the last couple of years. My commute went from 45min to 1 hour.
Ofcause I dont complain much since the Rx 8 arrived.
03-04-2004, 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by NickG
skc there's a flaw in your argument: Brisbane isn't a city, it's a country town mate, albeit a very pleasant and sunny one :D :D
skc there's a flaw in your argument: Brisbane isn't a city, it's a country town mate, albeit a very pleasant and sunny one
:D :D
well then what's Adeladie ?
03-04-2004, 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by skc
yes, the mass migration from Sydney has turned this country town into a proper city...with yuppie coffee shops.
yes, the mass migration from Sydney has turned this country town into a proper city...with yuppie coffee shops.
03-04-2004, 02:48 AM
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I got about 500km out of my first tank. which I think is fine I'm not going to complaining about it
I was running the car in changing under 5000 rpm and never full throttle. I was trying not to go past 1/2 throttle.
the engine is brilliant due to it's flexability. you can drive round under 5000rpm easily and it's as smooth as a baby
I was running the car in changing under 5000 rpm and never full throttle. I was trying not to go past 1/2 throttle.
the engine is brilliant due to it's flexability. you can drive round under 5000rpm easily and it's as smooth as a baby
03-04-2004, 04:54 AM
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Hymee,
You used 59L! The tank capacity is only 61L. Hope that fuel was clean
Hymee,
You used 59L! The tank capacity is only 61L. Hope that fuel was clean
I had a good friend when I was younger (he was killed mountain climbing in NZ, March 1992). Mark F. Jansen always used to say "E is for Enough". There are a few thing I still do "in the spirit of Jansen". I better stop. I am getting sad.
And funny you mention fuel and clean. I recevied a "secret" settlement from Caltex this week. I went down and paid my bill to Mazda (for diagnosis/cleaning etc), and to celebrate my windfall I popped by HJ's on the way home and spent the left over on a 40c cone.
If can get down to 9L/100km on my trip I should get 677km out of the tank. My goal, therefore, is to get 600km. I better take a jerry can with me, just in case
I have only ran out once in the '8, and once in the SS (except the time when the gausge was subject to a recall). You just don't know how much is left until you run out. Ah, Hymee, always pushing the boundaries Cheers,
Hymee.
03-04-2004, 06:21 AM
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Hi Hymee, as we showed on our trip 9L/100km is feasible, but it probably requires roads with light traffic, speeds of no more than 100km/h, lots of 6th gear and cruise control, and slow acceleration to cruising speed. Does this sound like you?
I have a suspicion that the difference between 100 and 110km/h probably means and increase of at least 0.5L/100km/h.
I don't know whether this rumoured flash upgrade of the ECU firmware wrt fuel mapping will ever come to pass (or indeed whether it's dinkum), but an improvement in fuel economy wouldn't be bad. I mean, I'm not bitching about what I'm getting at present, but it might serve to reduce some of the whingeing on the forum.
I have a suspicion that the difference between 100 and 110km/h probably means and increase of at least 0.5L/100km/h.
I don't know whether this rumoured flash upgrade of the ECU firmware wrt fuel mapping will ever come to pass (or indeed whether it's dinkum), but an improvement in fuel economy wouldn't be bad. I mean, I'm not bitching about what I'm getting at present, but it might serve to reduce some of the whingeing on the forum.
03-04-2004, 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by guy321
How do you expect us americans to understand you when you talk with foriegn numbers?
How do you expect us americans to understand you when you talk with foriegn numbers?
Good luck with the maths, suffice to say, our hi power cars are thirsty too....
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03-04-2004, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by guy321
How do you expect us americans to understand you when you talk with foriegn numbers?
How do you expect us americans to understand you when you talk with foriegn numbers?
Get into line with the rest of the world!
1 kilometre [km] (1000 m) = 0.6214 mile
1 mile = 1.6093 km
1 imperial gallon [gal] = 4.5461 litres
1 litre = 0.2199 imperial gallon
1 US gallon = 3.7854 litres
1 litre = 0.2641 US gallons
Cheers,
Hymee.