sco

auzoom ... Looks similar to what I get every start... see the link to an RPM graph in my first post in this thread

auzoom

Yeah, see now it gets wierder as I only get it in the afternoon.

Andrew

timbo

Lock, how is the resolution of this problem going? Or is the dealer playing hard because of your Canzoomer unit?

takahashi

I am sure they will not find it. Lock probably hide it under his pants to boost "his performance" :p oops :o

Lock & Load

When i spoke to the dealer he didnt have a clue as to what the problem may be , he kept on saying its a bad batch of petrol, what a lot of BS .

We know what the problem is the "in gear "or neutral switch is sticking ....causing this rolling idle situation on cold starts .


Keeping the clucth in on the cold starts overcomes the problem .

The forum member who gave me the heads up on the problem so far wont give me the answer to the solution on how to solve the sticking of the neutral stick , because i will not adhere to his condition of not signing of my call as B...free for one week :p

As you all know i can be a stuborn bastard and i wont give in to blackmail , he can stick his solution if he truly knows it far up his **** :D

One of the guys at the dealership drove my car and was smiling from ear to ear he loved the difference theCZ unit and the short shifter made

B.....free
michael

Lock & Load

Taka

I have 3 healthy SONS to carry on my family name :D and a great track record so i know my performance is more than adequate :D :p

You only have 1 Daughter


B...free
michael

auzoom

I say out the person so we all know who is holding back on helping other people.

Andrew

Revolver

I agree - that is just stupid stuff.

How you choose to sign off is your business.

Name him and shame him Michael.

Lock & Load

OK HERES THE THREAD

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/cold-idling-problem-66728/

The last part of his call sign aptly describes him :D

B...free
michael

labrat

Cheez, after all this time we still haven't got over this male superiority crap have we? And we go on about primitive tribal beliefs in other countries, so what's the difference? Looks like we're not so different after all.

Revolver

Sorry Michael - I don't get it.

Sounds like he was just having a gag with you. Has there been PMs exchanged 'cause there's been no response from him on that thread?

Anyways - you gave in to his demands! :p :D

Lock & Load

No i havent heard from him , but Gomez seems to think that Australian cars are different in that we dont have the same set up as them .

B...free
michael

clydejmuggs

Did you get the switch replaced? The clutch/starter interlock switch is attached to the clutch pedal. The switch that causes the rolling idle is a two wire (blue/red and black/blue) detent style that screws into the top left of the tranny case. The switch is on page B-1f of the diagrams.

I wasn't jerking you off Michael..I just thought you understood I meant to replace it.

It won't happen again.

Lock & Load

Going to see them on monday i have downloaded the relevant detailsof the clucth /starter interlock switch from the RX8 MANUAL , with the relevant diagrams and instructions on how to replace it

Glad to see that your NOT a mugg after all :p :D


B...free
michael

clydejmuggs

I'm glad we worked this out..

Now I can sleep at night.

B...cool

:p

Flick_46

I had been in over east ( live in perth ) came home and my wife said the car wouldnt start -
tried at about midnight . It would turn over slowly but not start. Rang mazdat the next day and they sent someone out to look and susequently towed the car in. This was the second time this had happened - first abiut 12 months ago (winter). Any way 3 days later I got my car back new starter motor and not a lot of information. changed the plugs to hotter ones. I had changed the battery about 2 weeks before and they were going to do that as well until I said it was new ( better than the std unit).
I vev read with interest comments onthis site before and maybe someone could letme know more
By the way it appesr to be reving hgher initially and the power feel seems to be different
Ive yet to be on an open road to see iftheer are any changes to the feel at hhg speed and I have not checked the fuel consumtion.
the comments passed inthis forum see]mto have been precurses

takahashi

Flick, Welcome

Sounds like flooding to me, since the starter motor and a flash to ECU is the common prescription to this problem.

I think if you have those change and remember to warm up the car before shutting or doing 3000rpm for 10 second before shutting a cold engine - that will prevent a 3rd unscheduled pit stop at Mazda

labrat

I mentioned my flooding problem at my 40k service last week. I have been informed by my Mazda dealer that the appropriate parts have been ordered and that I would be contacted to make a time for installation.

BTW, I faxed the advice of the flooding problem in advance of my service. I presume the dealer's warranty manager had to give his approval before the warranty claim could proceed.

Being in business, I always have a written record of any problem like this, and I can only suggest that timely written advice of problems written in a calm, polite and objective manner is the way to go.

Revolver

This whole cold start flooding problem is interesting to me because I've mistakenly done the usual things on the nono list a couple of times and not had a problem (e.g. moving the car a short way to wash it and forgetting to give it a quick rev before switching off).

From memory, most of the guys who have had this problem seem to have older cars (i.e. 2003 models). Is that right? If so, I wonder if the earlier cars are more susceptible to this kind of thing, even after the 'patch' fix?

Mine is a 2004 model.

labrat

I suspect that it might have something to do with the ageing of the batteries. I have been noticing over the past few months (even in warmer conditions) that crank times have become longer and slower. On Saturday, I returned from lunch and left it in the driveway to wash it. I didn't start it up until we went out that evening. It took quite a few turns to spin it over, and I thought we might have a problem. Starts yesterday and today weren't quick either.

So my hypothesis is that if your battery has sufficient grunt to give the motor a good spin, the cold start problem is much less likely to be apparent, although the underlying reasons are still there.

takahashi

Well recently the Melbourne weather becoming very cold in the morning.

My car starts very easily but there is a sharp noise like a squeal from the engine. Only once - sounds like knocking or something, that the car feel like dying and something is preventing it.

It never stall, have a light or flow any DTC codes. So I am ignoring it. Should I tell Mazda guys about it?

BTW it happened last winter too. It does not occur when the weather is warm or my wife is talking when I start the engine :D

Revolver

Pardon my ignorance but shouldn't car batteries last longer than 2 years?

Could it be that either the standard battery is inadequate for the power demands of the car or perhaps the electrical system is inefficient?

Would be interested to know if it is a teething problem in the early cars that was sorted at the factory for later cars.

clydejmuggs

I wonder if his trunk is shut?

Edit...boot

labrat

Revolver, you're probably right concerning battery life. If battery capacity is inadequate and power demands are high, then it is likely that battery life will be reduced. I think that Mazda recognize this in that the fixit pack contains a new (and presumably larger capacity) battery, more powerful starter motor and hotter plugs. Whether these parts are included in the 2004 builds, I wouldn't know.

Jellybean

And as you can see other places on this site, inadequate batteries requiring Mazda upgrades has been a big issue for North American RX8 owners. Seems that most manufacturers supply minimal batteries as original equipment and hope to survive the warranty period.