Revolver

No offence here. You should know by now that if you put your head above the parapet and wave flags about speed cameras you'll get shot at in the spirit of willing, though still friendly, discussion, lol. As you know, I don't take live prisoners when I'm arguing something, hahaha.

Otherwise, I respect your experience and regret anyone has to attend these horrible scenes. My real point was that more speed cameras do not stop such things happening but better education and training will at least reduce them and perhaps make more crashes less threatening to human life through the deployment of learnt evasive skills.

Revolver

Hahaha, classic gen Y, the world owes me a living because I'm special, attitude.

Revolver

A further point - at least when police officers make that second most dangerous decision they do so with the benefit of training and experience to control the car at speed safely.

We KNOW young drivers will speed at some point, if not often, so why not equip them with the skills to control the car and perhaps learn how easily they can overreach their meagre experience base??

The current over-emphasis on punishment is like giving a kid a bag of lollies and telling him he'll get a smack if he eats more than one - it just defies common sense.

Cromax

Well, I kind of like Mogley's point, as if their reward was substantial enough I wouldn't have to work part-time to keep myself while I'm at uni. They do reward drivers in Victoria by reducing or waiving the re-licensing fee at renewal after 10 years. But I reckon there should be a tax rebate for good behaviour.

Revolver

In all seriousness, I think there was a program up in NSW that recognised good driving for a while but I can't remember the details and I don't think it really got off the ground in a major way.

Unfortunately, cash incentives have about the same deterrent effect as cash fines - money doesn't really stop people driving stupidly.

mogley

Everyone has a price.

Cromax

I'm not sure your price would be economically viable ... as I know mine wouldn't be either!

azzaboynt

Yes, there was one in NSW a few years back. Apparently what the police found was that if you pull someone over for GOOD driving, you end up with almost the same amount of crap/abuse from the drivers as pulling over someone for BAD driving.

thisllub

I hate that road. Four lanes and the majority of idiots drive in the centre 2. Keep left means left lane not slightly left.

20 years ago I hit an 8 year old boy. He ran out from behind a parked truck, nothing I could do. I wasn't exceeding the limit but I wasn't under it by much.
Lower speed limits in urban areas are essential as are measures to show drivers why.

BUT

This year we are getting B Triples on NSW roads and I assume that they will be allowed to travel at 100 anywhere that I am. I suspect that my 8 would stop faster from 130 than the B Triple can stop from 100 and we won't even contemplate cornering.

I will never be convinced that on the M1 a properly trained experienced driver in a well maintained modern car (excluding the Holden Viva hire car I had last week) couldn't travel safely at 140 if there were no threat of another driver changing lanes into him/her. In that regard I agree absolutely with your points 7 and 8.


Go on . you love it.