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Old 12-15-2007 | 02:51 AM
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Front Brake Rotors and Pads

I'm in the market for some new rotors and pads for my RX8. Are there any good deals out there or places to source parts from?

Is it worth getting aftermarket rotors and pads or should i just get oem parts. My RX8 is a daily driver that doesn't really get driven all that hard (no track days)

ABS have protec rotors and Lucas pads for $520 fitted here in adelaide that are compatible with the RX8 an el cheapo route that i have been contemplating.

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Old 12-15-2007 | 03:57 AM
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OEM parts are quite good actually, and I would suggest you only change when you feel they are inadequate (otherwise you'll just wasting your money on something that you won't outlive in the first place).

But if you do want to upgrade, there are heaps out there. maybe start with pads first, depending on your budget, EBC probably cheapest (*hint*), or you can go JDM brand like endless or project mu.
Old 12-15-2007 | 05:15 AM
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As Black-8 said the OEM pads and rotors are really quite good. If its for street use only I see no need (except for price) to use anything else. Most of the aftermarket replacements for street use are cheaper but are nowhere near as good as the OEM ones.

Most of the aftermarket brands not for street use are unfortunately inferior to the mazda stuff for street use, mainly because they need higher temperatures to be affective, and they will annoy the crap out of you with their sqealing.

Get a price from your dealer and then drop an email to the guys at OnlineMazdaParts.com who will most likely be able to deliver to your door the same parts for a lot cheaper. You should look for the sports suspension ones.

Make sure you let the dealers know that they need to be competative with pricing as you are shopping around INTERNATIONALLY (they will try and put you off with things like no warranty, etc...ignore them, they are the same part #'s).

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Old 12-15-2007 | 05:19 AM
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I use the same pad that I use it on the road, well. I love to use pads that are fully compatible on the road. The only draw back is some noise and dust, but they work from 0 degree on ward and that is streetable to me.

Mazda OEM is some a brand. They don't make themselves. Don't make thing complicated for yourself. Other countries may have the same number, but I will not surprise if it is not the exact same pad material.

I use Project Mu HC+.

EDIT: YES! I will put Project Mu HC+ or something similar in my Toyota Kluger if they make it in the same size, not OEM Toyota.
Old 12-15-2007 | 05:53 AM
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I use track pads on the street too, but that doesnt mean you should put up with squealing, dusty, torquey pads for daily driving.
Old 12-15-2007 | 06:41 AM
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can't agree more than andrew and taka. I did use oem pads before on the street for almost a year, plus 2 track days. It does fade when you pushed it, but I can't see you fade the oem one on the street, unless you are doing a twisties run or do something silly.

I did use my project mu HC+ on street, just because I can't be bothered changing them
Old 12-15-2007 | 07:02 AM
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Depending on shipping to you, these guys are good*, are having a sale, are forum vendors https://www.rx8club.com/auto-rnd-91/racing-brake-specials-132328/. The RB gear has from OEM replacement to this fancy stuff if you need/want it.

*very helpful advice and easy to work with from personal experience.
Old 12-15-2007 | 07:55 AM
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There are many "the best" pads. I only look at stopping distance and initial bites in all pads. I don't care how much noise or dust it makes as long as it stops the best and have the best feel on the street.
Old 12-15-2007 | 08:22 AM
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Thanks for the help guys.

I've checked with Paradise Mazda and the price quoted to me was..... wait for it... $1160.

Onlinemazda.com have given me a price of about AU$600 delivered to my door and fitting looks like it will cost about $150. So all up $750 which is not a bad saving compared to getting the dealership to do it.

I'm pretty happy with the feel of the oem rotors and pads and the change is more a necessity than just giving my RX8 some bling (my rotors and pads are almost worn out)

I'll look into the RB stuff, i've sent them an email.

I guess my question is whether or not there are any rotor and pads that can be had for less then $750 that are better then oem for street use.

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Old 12-15-2007 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Henley
Thanks for the help guys.

I've checked with Paradise Mazda and the price quoted to me was..... wait for it... $1160.

Onlinemazda.com have given me a price of about AU$600 delivered to my door and fitting looks like it will cost about $150. So all up $750 which is not a bad saving compared to getting the dealership to do it.

I'm pretty happy with the feel of the oem rotors and pads and the change is more a necessity than just giving my RX8 some bling (my rotors and pads are almost worn out)

I'll look into the RB stuff, i've sent them an email.

I guess my question is whether or not there are any rotor and pads that can be had for less then $750 that are better then oem for street use.

Henley

Ah! Parasite, sorry Paradise motors, say G'day to Peter McKeo he is the Parts Manager, he started in the game after me, but has lasted far longer, Peter has been there for 25 years!...he is the tall bald one.
I will be getting my facelift 8 from Paradise next year, they are the ONLY Mazda Dealer in Adelaide I would buy anything from.

Personally, Mazda pads are crap, they do not last and they are dirty bastards.
I also bought and sold Australian made Bendix (metal kings), Mazda did not like it but the customers did, and NO the metal in the pads did not wear out rotors.
You are in Adelaide, go to Tilbrooks Brake Service in Currie Street, I used to buy all my Bendix pads from them (wholesale).
They will give you up to date advice.
Old 12-15-2007 | 05:07 PM
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I am currently using Bendix , happy with them just as good as stock

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Old 12-15-2007 | 06:38 PM
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Its good to know about the Bendix as I haven't used them. I had no issues what so ever (squeal, dusting, etc) with the OEM pads and that was street and track use...

As for the RB, as Spin9k suggested they are good stuff. Have a look at the RB website, see what it would cost you (Shipping 4 rotors would be around 2-300USD) and then speak to Rishy (Endless Rotaries). But you need to hurry as their prices are going up in the new year.
Old 12-15-2007 | 08:38 PM
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I've been happy with the EBC Red Stuff pads but also found the OEM pads fine for street work.

As for rotors, if you're only on the street just stick with the OEM's. Get 'em imported as advised by the other guys to save some dough and you'll be laughing.
Old 12-15-2007 | 11:57 PM
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With Bendix you should not get the black brake dust on alloys like you get with OEM.
Old 12-16-2007 | 01:04 AM
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i have Racing Brake rotors, dirlled and slotted, same as the "deal thread" and ebc reds. No squealing on mine???!!!
Old 12-16-2007 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeyr
i have Racing Brake rotors, dirlled and slotted, same as the "deal thread" and ebc reds. No squealing on mine???!!!

Racing Brake:
Brake Rotor (Drill+Slot) - RX8 (SPORT) FRONT 04-07
Brake Pad (Hawk HPS) - RX8 FRONT 04-07

All up AU$610 delivered (US$207 for delivery of just the front rotors and pads - ouch!!) so pretty much same as getting oem equipment from onlinemazdaparts.com....... decisions decisions...... i do like the idea of having slotted and cross drilled rotors though

I've never heard of Hawk pads.

Thanks Ash8, I will call Tilbrooks tomorrow.....
Old 12-16-2007 | 02:17 PM
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Ahhh, fronts only makes it a little clearer. Make sure you compare aples with apples. You have gone for bling with drilled and slotted and added a few $100 because of it.
Old 12-17-2007 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by auzoom
Ahhh, fronts only makes it a little clearer. Make sure you compare aples with apples. You have gone for bling with drilled and slotted and added a few $100 because of it.
The crossed drillled and slotted rotors from RB and oem rotors from onlinemazdaparts.com are about the same cost delivered.

decisions decisions....

any other suggestions?
Old 12-17-2007 | 04:35 AM
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you can try these guys and ask about StopTech stock rotor replacements.
Old 12-17-2007 | 07:38 AM
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Hey I am in the market for new rotors - thanks for the racing brake tip, I was looking at DBA 2 piece. (600AUD each!)
Old 12-17-2007 | 12:57 PM
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I would have opted for the Project MU or Endless rotors


try www.perfectrun.com.au
or
www.nengun.com


havent found any places that are cheaper
Old 12-17-2007 | 10:23 PM
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Doesn't EBC make rotors for us? They have a very very good reputation.
Old 12-18-2007 | 06:33 AM
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I don't concur that statement.


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