That laser gun bastard
#1
That laser gun bastard
I will be the slowest RX8 driver from now.
That bastard, who remain nameless, gave me 3 points on the weekend. 15 m in front of 100 zone when I was doing 85 in a 70 zone. Bastard!
That bastard, who remain nameless, gave me 3 points on the weekend. 15 m in front of 100 zone when I was doing 85 in a 70 zone. Bastard!
#2
the new speed laws are just stupid, it's obvious it's revenue rasing by the government. all these speed traps and cameras now. would understand if they are positioned near blackspots, schools or near housing surburbs.. but not on the damn freeways > , bad luck about the speeding fine and points takahashi. but guess it happens to all of us.
#4
The current wheels magazine has some good info / statistics on this - about how it is making us dumber and riskier by forcing us to concentrate on our speed rather than on the road.
It's like the pokies and MP's wages/super - it's all about the money.
It's like the pokies and MP's wages/super - it's all about the money.
#5
Soz to hear that Taka. On a similar note, I got 2 points and a $240 fine for 'making noise.' 9am on a Sunday morning on a main road, no traction control, wheelspin coming out of right turn (no traffic).
Yes it's a little silly and lairy, but the copper was a younger 'ucking jobsworth looking to nab one of those 'flash' motors. If only I'd been driving a Falmodore I'd have disappeared in the crowd
Oh well.
Haddock (also given 4points for speeding on Mt. Nebo road, 6 points lost in 3 months makes a trackday a necessity me'thinks).
Yes it's a little silly and lairy, but the copper was a younger 'ucking jobsworth looking to nab one of those 'flash' motors. If only I'd been driving a Falmodore I'd have disappeared in the crowd
Oh well.
Haddock (also given 4points for speeding on Mt. Nebo road, 6 points lost in 3 months makes a trackday a necessity me'thinks).
#6
Ahem, have nothing to add! I got pinged on the widest, straightest bit of dual carriageway between Canberra & Sydney at 6:45am on a Tuesday morning. Taxation not road safety! (but I do have to acknowledge the conscientiousness of the cop for getting up early) :D
#7
At least the Hay plain is still available for high speed tests. You can see a small dog hiding behind a bush 10 klicks away. Just have a quick look for spotter planes and then try and chase down the little blip of a road train on the horizon ....
#8
At 10km over the limit a competent and aware RX-8 driver is still safer than 95% of other traffic on the road.
Do I exceed the speed limit sometimes? Yes.
Do I ever exceed the capabilities of my driving skills, the road conditions at the time or the capabilities of the car I am driving? No.
Grrrrr.
Do I exceed the speed limit sometimes? Yes.
Do I ever exceed the capabilities of my driving skills, the road conditions at the time or the capabilities of the car I am driving? No.
Grrrrr.
#9
The Victorian Propoganda machine
(http://www.operationcountdown.com.au..._distances.htm)
thinks that it takes 80m to brake from 100kph. Of this, 60m is mechanical (the car).
Hmmm ...
The RX8 (according to the hardcover book we got with the car) is 37m from 100kph. A Ferrarri 360 is 46m from 113kph and a Porsche GT3 is 47m from 113kph.
Even a Ford Explorer is about 55m from 100kph. So where did they get the 60m from? A Holden Suburban or an old LH Torana?
(http://www.operationcountdown.com.au..._distances.htm)
thinks that it takes 80m to brake from 100kph. Of this, 60m is mechanical (the car).
Hmmm ...
The RX8 (according to the hardcover book we got with the car) is 37m from 100kph. A Ferrarri 360 is 46m from 113kph and a Porsche GT3 is 47m from 113kph.
Even a Ford Explorer is about 55m from 100kph. So where did they get the 60m from? A Holden Suburban or an old LH Torana?
#10
A Datsun perheps... and they clocked a lady in the Western Ring Road at 170 kmh!!! Top speed of that Datsun was tested 103kmh! LOL
Now the fixed camera is off. The cops are out there catching everyone, eating their meat pies, chatting up the blonds on the street.
A birdie told me today that if I pay more than penalised. They will refund the money in cash cheque. If you don't clear the cheque, the VICROAD (or RTA?) may not register your demerit point! I wonder if this works
Now the fixed camera is off. The cops are out there catching everyone, eating their meat pies, chatting up the blonds on the street.
A birdie told me today that if I pay more than penalised. They will refund the money in cash cheque. If you don't clear the cheque, the VICROAD (or RTA?) may not register your demerit point! I wonder if this works
Last edited by takahashi; 12-29-2003 at 10:43 PM.
#11
Check out this option.
Ever noticed why there are signs stating that the speed limit is changing ahead. They are usually placed a certain distance from the actual sign.
There is a state??? or is it federal law that says you can't be booked within either 200m of a change of speed sign or visible sight of that sign. Its one of those.....
I know this is suppossed to be valid in NSW, check out for VIC.
Ever noticed why there are signs stating that the speed limit is changing ahead. They are usually placed a certain distance from the actual sign.
There is a state??? or is it federal law that says you can't be booked within either 200m of a change of speed sign or visible sight of that sign. Its one of those.....
I know this is suppossed to be valid in NSW, check out for VIC.
#12
Originally posted by takahashi
A birdie told me today that if I pay more than penalised. They will refund the money in cash cheque. If you don't clear the cheque, the VICROAD (or RTA?) may not register your demerit point! I wonder if this works
A birdie told me today that if I pay more than penalised. They will refund the money in cash cheque. If you don't clear the cheque, the VICROAD (or RTA?) may not register your demerit point! I wonder if this works
#13
Originally posted by Wildcard
I have heard this before too. Since I don't have a cheque book though and pay everything by VISA, I think we should start up an RX-8 forum cheque account so that we can all pay our tickets. Since Hymee is our moderator, he can look after it and we can all send him our money and have him pay our tix for us. Anyone like to second that nomination? :D :D
I have heard this before too. Since I don't have a cheque book though and pay everything by VISA, I think we should start up an RX-8 forum cheque account so that we can all pay our tickets. Since Hymee is our moderator, he can look after it and we can all send him our money and have him pay our tix for us. Anyone like to second that nomination? :D :D
eh.... you can now pay via postbillpay with VISA now.
#14
Originally posted by DMRH
Check out this option.
Ever noticed why there are signs stating that the speed limit is changing ahead. They are usually placed a certain distance from the actual sign.
There is a state??? or is it federal law that says you can't be booked within either 200m of a change of speed sign or visible sight of that sign. Its one of those.....
I know this is suppossed to be valid in NSW, check out for VIC.
Check out this option.
Ever noticed why there are signs stating that the speed limit is changing ahead. They are usually placed a certain distance from the actual sign.
There is a state??? or is it federal law that says you can't be booked within either 200m of a change of speed sign or visible sight of that sign. Its one of those.....
I know this is suppossed to be valid in NSW, check out for VIC.
The way I see it is that you are not suppose to do 100 before the 100 zone sign. In court, the lawyer just have to bring this up and you will lose. Not worth the risk even if the police policy stated not to book driver that way
#16
Tried the "overpaying" issue. Been there, done that. Didn't work........
The Gov. issue plates are very reflective to LIDAR (deliberate). The NSW premium are the worst of all.
In testing with a commercial laser I found the plates from worst to best followed the natural pattern of reflection. I.E. Worst = white... Best = black.
As you can't legally change your white premium plates colouring, you can disguise it & get away with it I feel.
I will be paint stripping my front plate this week & repainting the same colour combination. Only this time, its going to be a full "matt" white with matt black figures.
I am expecting the result to be a noticable reduction in reflected light. This should have a "direct" result on the LIDAR range.
Example, if the cops could get a fix on me at 200m, I am hopeful that it will now reduce to 150m. This will mean I have 50m grace compared to the next guy to react & slow down.
In my case, I am expecting my detector to be buzzing away as he tries to get a fix on me all the while I am slowing to a safe speed.
Shall post pics if they turn out.........
The Gov. issue plates are very reflective to LIDAR (deliberate). The NSW premium are the worst of all.
In testing with a commercial laser I found the plates from worst to best followed the natural pattern of reflection. I.E. Worst = white... Best = black.
As you can't legally change your white premium plates colouring, you can disguise it & get away with it I feel.
I will be paint stripping my front plate this week & repainting the same colour combination. Only this time, its going to be a full "matt" white with matt black figures.
I am expecting the result to be a noticable reduction in reflected light. This should have a "direct" result on the LIDAR range.
Example, if the cops could get a fix on me at 200m, I am hopeful that it will now reduce to 150m. This will mean I have 50m grace compared to the next guy to react & slow down.
In my case, I am expecting my detector to be buzzing away as he tries to get a fix on me all the while I am slowing to a safe speed.
Shall post pics if they turn out.........
#17
Originally posted by DMRH
Tried the "overpaying" issue. Been there, done that. Didn't work........
The Gov. issue plates are very reflective to LIDAR (deliberate). The NSW premium are the worst of all.
In testing with a commercial laser I found the plates from worst to best followed the natural pattern of reflection. I.E. Worst = white... Best = black.
As you can't legally change your white premium plates colouring, you can disguise it & get away with it I feel.
I will be paint stripping my front plate this week & repainting the same colour combination. Only this time, its going to be a full "matt" white with matt black figures.
Tried the "overpaying" issue. Been there, done that. Didn't work........
The Gov. issue plates are very reflective to LIDAR (deliberate). The NSW premium are the worst of all.
In testing with a commercial laser I found the plates from worst to best followed the natural pattern of reflection. I.E. Worst = white... Best = black.
As you can't legally change your white premium plates colouring, you can disguise it & get away with it I feel.
I will be paint stripping my front plate this week & repainting the same colour combination. Only this time, its going to be a full "matt" white with matt black figures.
How about those reflective spray that whiten the plate
#18
A good theory, but your licence plate only makes up a very small part of the frontal radar (laser) cross section of your car. Anyone who has used a camera with zoom lens or a rifle with a scope will attest to how hard it is to maintain a stready track on a moving target more than 100m away. No way is that laser dot going to be on your number plate and no where else. Even with the cop doing his best job to keep it steady, the laser spot is going to be continually moving over entire front of your car and reflecting energy off everything from the bonnet, headlights, number plate, rear vision mirrors, bumper, your hymee grill, etc, etc.
Does anyone know the mils divergence of a police laser? I don't but I'd be interested in finding out.
Also, even if the cop was capable of zeroing in on your number plate and nothing else, I don't think a slight reduction in reflectivity will make a difference over a range of 200m. 2,000m or 20,000m - maybe.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I wouldn't want people to get a false impression here and all rush out to Bunnings on the weekend to buy paint stripper and two tins of matte paint. I'd happily be proven wrong though. Just my thoughts.
Does anyone know the mils divergence of a police laser? I don't but I'd be interested in finding out.
Also, even if the cop was capable of zeroing in on your number plate and nothing else, I don't think a slight reduction in reflectivity will make a difference over a range of 200m. 2,000m or 20,000m - maybe.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I wouldn't want people to get a false impression here and all rush out to Bunnings on the weekend to buy paint stripper and two tins of matte paint. I'd happily be proven wrong though. Just my thoughts.
#19
Originally posted by takahashi
Enlighten me... why number plate is the issue... you mean the fixed speed camera...
How about those reflective spray that whiten the plate
Enlighten me... why number plate is the issue... you mean the fixed speed camera...
How about those reflective spray that whiten the plate
#20
Originally posted by Wildcard
No, he's talking about the hand-held police laser guns. Fixed speed camera's use sensors in the road anyway, not laser or radar to detect speed.
No, he's talking about the hand-held police laser guns. Fixed speed camera's use sensors in the road anyway, not laser or radar to detect speed.
#21
Wildcard... so does that mean it is harder for cops to detect black car with black background 4 digit small number plates?
I have to add I was driving my father's old Camry when I got booked recently!
I have to add I was driving my father's old Camry when I got booked recently!
#22
Originally posted by takahashi
I should let you look at the VIC fix camera. They are opearated with laser or radar
I should let you look at the VIC fix camera. They are opearated with laser or radar
I still stand by what I said about repainting the plates though.
#23
Originally posted by takahashi
I rather not agrue,,, it is not very defensible since you are still in the 70 zone...
The way I see it is that you are not suppose to do 100 before the 100 zone sign. In court, the lawyer just have to bring this up and you will lose. Not worth the risk even if the police policy stated not to book driver that way
I rather not agrue,,, it is not very defensible since you are still in the 70 zone...
The way I see it is that you are not suppose to do 100 before the 100 zone sign. In court, the lawyer just have to bring this up and you will lose. Not worth the risk even if the police policy stated not to book driver that way
Cheers,
Hymee.
#24
I recently got caught driving in excess of 100km/hr (I think about 130) in a 60 zone in the early day light hours. Got pulled over and told the cop I was evading a road rager (truth was it was a drag). They pressed me to give them a speed, all I admitted to was that I was not doing 60km/hr. They had no speed dection method available to me so couldn't get me for speeding. Dangerous driving was my concern, but my pager went off and told the cop I am now in a rush to see a patient for emergency treatment. He let me go. Pheew!
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