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Old 08-04-2004, 04:34 PM
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Thumbs up Mazdaspeed Shortshifter!

Just Released!

Hey guys......I found this on the Mazdaspeed site and translated it to Engrish using Excite.....so sorry if it seems a little Japlish!

XE.com for the conversion to AUD puts the cost at $510 for the shifter and $100 for the braided line. then add freight etc......I'd love a short shifter....can't figure out though if it's 20% shorter or 80% shorter?

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For Mazda Motor RX-8 A newly developed part is put on the market.
Sport SHIFUTA and a sport clutch line are set additionally to "touring kit A-spec."


The Mazda Motor speed sets sport SHIFUTA and a sport clutch line additionally to the tuning item "touring kit A-spec." which raises the sport performance of Mazda Motor RX-8 further, and puts them on the market through the Mazda Motor group selling companies all over the country and the Mazda Motor speed goods agency.

<The feature of goods>
■ Sport SHIFUTA
It is shortNormal ratio about 20%-ization about a shift stroke. By sport driving, shift FIRU which bears an important role is made more direct, and quick operation is attained. A quick feeling of a shift serves as advantage at the time of sport driving with the snap of a wrist.

■ Sport clutch line
With the clutch hose which adopted the stainless steel mesh hose with the low rate of expansion, the hose expansion at the time of pressurization is controlled, and more positive clutch operation and a direct feeling are realized.

[Goods outline]

Brand name Part number P/C Manufacturer's suggested price
A consumption including tax (消費税抜) Note
Sport SHIFUTA QSE1 17 500 1 39,900 yen (38,000 yen) Only for 6MT vehicles
Sport clutch line QSE1 41 380 1 7,875 yen (7,500 yen) For MT vehicles

■ The above-mentioned price is attachment expense another manufacturer's suggested price as of July 30, 2004.


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Old 08-04-2004, 04:41 PM
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SWEET!!! i have been waiting for this...i think it means a 20%throw...i can't wait to get a look at it in English.
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interesting
Old 08-04-2004, 04:54 PM
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Just placed an order for both parts...
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this is kind of duplicate...check out this thread...

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/mazdaspeed-short-shifter-35716/
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Originally Posted by liqiud
this is kind of duplicate...check out this thread...

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=35716
Yeah it is....I found that thread while looking for a bit more info! Just tried using Babelfish as a translater and came up with no solid answer to the percentage question....will keep looking.......

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Old 08-04-2004, 05:18 PM
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Okay....here is the WorldLingo translation. I think now that the reduction in throw is 20%.....not that much I s'pose an 80% reduction would be bloody ridiculous now that I come to think of it! Still, I think a 40% reduction would be ace.

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Selling the new development part for Matsuda RX-8
In "touring kit A- specifications" sport shifter, sport clutch line additional setting

 Matsuda speed to the tuning item "touring kit A- specifications" which furthermore improves the sport efficiency of Matsuda RX-8 adds sets the sport shifter and the sport clutch line, we sell via the Matsuda group dealership and the Matsuda speed commodity dealer of entire country.

Feature > of < commodity
* Sport shifter
Shift stroke normal ratio approximately 20% short conversion. With sport driving, it designates from shift feeling which bears important role as direct, quick operation becomes possible. With the snap of the wrist the fast shift impression, it becomes the advantage in the time of sport driving.

* Sport clutch line
With the clutch hose which adopts the stain mesh hose whose coefficient of expansion is low, hose expansion when pressurizing is controlled, more secure clutch operation and direct feeling is actualized.

Endquote.

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It is hard to tell from the pictures if the throw is shorter, or if it is just a cut down stick.

We had a popular mod on the Commodores where we would reposition one of the links by moving it 20mm up the shaft. That gave the same length gear stick, but with a shorter action forward and back. The side to side action was the same, which is close anyway on a 6-speed.

But this Mazda one seems a different design - just a simple pivot-ball?

The braided clutch line looks like a fairly easy mod once you source the correct fittings. But I wonder how much cheaper than $100

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Originally Posted by Hymee
It is hard to tell from the pictures if the throw is shorter, or if it is just a cut down stick........
The text refers to "shift stroke" and "ratio" so it's a shorter throw......
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Shorter throw in length or angle? Cutting the stick will make it a shorter throw length wise, but still the same angle of movement.

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I can't imagine they would get away with charging $500 for a shifter they had taken a hacksaw to!
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I know - I should take a look at the shifter mechanism design in those PDF workshop manuals!

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Well from the pictures posted above, and the drawings, it seems to me to be a simple pivot ball/socket arrangement.

IMHO the only way to shorten the throw in this case is to shorted then stick. Perhaps not strictly taken to with a hacksaw, but a cast/machined component. You just pay more for a smaller one. If you had access to a good lathe etc, you could easily shorten the stock one and re-thread the **** bit.

We could alter the holden ones a bit differently as the shifter was actually remote. The linkage was more complex though. If you could get down inside the bottom of there the shifter engages the mechanism, you might be able to change the leverage ratio on the throw, but I think that would be major surgery.

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Originally Posted by cortc
Just placed an order for both parts...

Hey cortc.......

I found a more appropriate avatar for you;







I'm just jealous. :p
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Originally Posted by Gomez
I can't imagine they would get away with charging $500 for a shifter they had taken a hacksaw to!
Are you sure about that - look at the price of the shift **** with a light in it!
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Originally Posted by Gomez
I can't imagine they would get away with charging $500 for a shifter they had taken a hacksaw to!

Look at what Mazda charges for some of the crappy aftermarket accessories for the RX8 , AND THE BUNNIES ARE STILL BUYING THEM . :D

There is a new one born every day

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Originally Posted by Hymee
Well from the pictures posted above, and the drawings, it seems to me to be a simple pivot ball/socket arrangement.

IMHO the only way to shorten the throw in this case is to shorten the stick. Perhaps not strictly taken to with a hacksaw, but a cast/machined component. You just pay more for a smaller one. If you had access to a good lathe etc, you could easily shorten the stock one and re-thread the **** bit.....
I agree with the simple pivot ball/socket part......but disagree that it has to be shorter. If the fulcrum is lifted higher on the shifter housing, then the shifter throw can be made shorter using the same length stick. Like raising the links on the Commodore stick, they could have just effectively raised the point around which the shifter pivots in it's housing. This would allow the stick to stay the same length.....and it has to stay the same length I reckon. I have my watch band catch the ring around the shifter as it is!!

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Aha....I see how they've done it! Check the pic out.....they have added a spacer to the shifter housing to lift the fulcrum. Sneaky buggers! Edit: That's why they've added the shifter bolts to the kit....they need to be longer than the stock shifter bolts to go through the spacer.....

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hey cortc where did you order from..... the japanese mazda site???? thanks
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Mez,

That would make sense. If the pivot point is higher up, then the angle to achieve the same distance of movement on the acutator (bottom) end would be less. Sort of a pitty it also closes up the gates in terms of width. I would like give one a try. As long as it is no shorter overall. But why would I want to - I like the shift pretty much as it is.

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Hymee, I am a veteran owner of five months.......the stock shifter throw is now too long! I must now wait 'till some-one 'round here becomes the first bunny to buy one. I will then fly to their capital city, ply them with cheap booze, and con a decent fang around the block in their 8 out of them to check it out :D

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Geez mez - it would be expensive to fly to another capital city
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Not for me....We sly bastards have cunning plans!
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Anyone installed this yet? I've just got mine (bought it in Japan, thus don't need to pay shipping), and I'm wondering if there's any DIY thread on this (already searched, but couldn't find it)


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