Problem: Grinding from rear at low speed?
#1
Problem: Grinding from rear at low speed?
Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this problem:
After long drives (maybe an hour plus), if I stop at traffic lights or whatever, I have this grinding sensation from the back of the car up to about 15-20km/h.
It's hard to describe, kind of like driving on rough gravel or cobblestones or like cogs slipping, that kind of feeling.
Have taken to mazda but they can't find anything - I guess because they don't drive it for an hour or more?
Anyone have any ideas, suggestions etc?
After long drives (maybe an hour plus), if I stop at traffic lights or whatever, I have this grinding sensation from the back of the car up to about 15-20km/h.
It's hard to describe, kind of like driving on rough gravel or cobblestones or like cogs slipping, that kind of feeling.
Have taken to mazda but they can't find anything - I guess because they don't drive it for an hour or more?
Anyone have any ideas, suggestions etc?
#3
It depends on what kind of grinding, but if your rear alignments out and you're running OEM tyres, you do get vibration through the rear of the car caused by cupping of the inside edge of the tyres.
Get your tyres rotated and see if it helps. The other thing I had done was they took the tyres off the rims and swapped them left to right.
Get your tyres rotated and see if it helps. The other thing I had done was they took the tyres off the rims and swapped them left to right.
#4
Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this problem:
After long drives (maybe an hour plus), if I stop at traffic lights or whatever, I have this grinding sensation from the back of the car up to about 15-20km/h.
It's hard to describe, kind of like driving on rough gravel or cobblestones or like cogs slipping, that kind of feeling.
Have taken to mazda but they can't find anything - I guess because they don't drive it for an hour or more?
Anyone have any ideas, suggestions etc?
After long drives (maybe an hour plus), if I stop at traffic lights or whatever, I have this grinding sensation from the back of the car up to about 15-20km/h.
It's hard to describe, kind of like driving on rough gravel or cobblestones or like cogs slipping, that kind of feeling.
Have taken to mazda but they can't find anything - I guess because they don't drive it for an hour or more?
Anyone have any ideas, suggestions etc?
Also check your rear wheel bearings , if they are faulty they can cause grinding etc .
Cheers
Michael
#5
Thanks for the replies
Bought the car new Feb 06. They rotated my wheels at last service (30,000km), but this was happening before and since then.
I guess I'll take it in again warmed up and let them know they need to be ready when i arrive
Bought the car new Feb 06. They rotated my wheels at last service (30,000km), but this was happening before and since then.
I guess I'll take it in again warmed up and let them know they need to be ready when i arrive
#9
Have u bumped any kerbs lately? Or any other significant impact to one of your rear wheels?
It could well be the early signs of a damaged rear wheel bearing. The sound you describe is definitely similar to a wheel bearing problem. Perhaps it disappears at about 20km an hour cos the damage/noise is so slight that the road noise and tyre roar takes over.
I doubt it would be the diff cos I was told that noise would be constantly there and just get louder and louder at high speeds.
Ask a reputable suspension shop to check your rear wheel bearings (someone who really knows what they're doing and has the patience to wait until the noise comes out). I don't think the Mazda dealership is the best place to go for noises like this.
Other potential problem could just be very uneven tyre wear caused by poor alignment/balance. Or just tyre noise in general...the stockies aren't exactly quiet.
It could well be the early signs of a damaged rear wheel bearing. The sound you describe is definitely similar to a wheel bearing problem. Perhaps it disappears at about 20km an hour cos the damage/noise is so slight that the road noise and tyre roar takes over.
I doubt it would be the diff cos I was told that noise would be constantly there and just get louder and louder at high speeds.
Ask a reputable suspension shop to check your rear wheel bearings (someone who really knows what they're doing and has the patience to wait until the noise comes out). I don't think the Mazda dealership is the best place to go for noises like this.
Other potential problem could just be very uneven tyre wear caused by poor alignment/balance. Or just tyre noise in general...the stockies aren't exactly quiet.
#10
The RE040 tyres tend to make a grinding noise at low speed when turning corners. It's quite disconcerting sometimes. I've got a grinding noise again now, but it's a lot quieter than what I had before when I had my tyres changed last time.
#11
i dont know if this would be anything like your issue but i had a problem with a piece of metal that hold the brake pads in rubing and making a grinding noise and could only be heard at low speed. I may have even been a pin or something but it was to do with something near the pads.
#13
well it was finally time to take the car in for a service and i did as suggested (thanks!) - i made sure the car was nice and warmed up and asked them to come for a drive with me
well erx8s got it right - diff is stuffed was how the mechanic put it - they'll deliver a new one from melbourne
he wasn't sure if it was covered by warranty - is this right?
by the way i'm obviously pretty thick cause i never noticed that it only happened when i was turning
thanks to everyone again for their input and i'll let you know what happens
btw - the 40k service is $380 plus they wanna charge more for rotating tyres, wheel balance and several other things - does this sound normal?
well erx8s got it right - diff is stuffed was how the mechanic put it - they'll deliver a new one from melbourne
he wasn't sure if it was covered by warranty - is this right?
by the way i'm obviously pretty thick cause i never noticed that it only happened when i was turning
thanks to everyone again for their input and i'll let you know what happens
btw - the 40k service is $380 plus they wanna charge more for rotating tyres, wheel balance and several other things - does this sound normal?
#14
Assuming your car is still under warranty (Feb 06 so should be ok) I think they would have to prove neglect on your behalf. Has it been serviced by them the whole time? Have you missed a service?
Other than that I think you should be good. Ohh and dont let a car dealer do tyres. They are bad enough with engines...imagine what they can $%^&* up on your wheels and tyres.
Other than that I think you should be good. Ohh and dont let a car dealer do tyres. They are bad enough with engines...imagine what they can $%^&* up on your wheels and tyres.
#15
Had the same issue with mine see thread.
https://www.rx8club.com/australia-new-zealand-forum-37/my-baby-back-purring-like-kitten-again-136197/
Replaced the dif and tranny oil and cleared right up.
https://www.rx8club.com/australia-new-zealand-forum-37/my-baby-back-purring-like-kitten-again-136197/
Replaced the dif and tranny oil and cleared right up.
Last edited by mdr; 02-25-2008 at 04:06 PM.
#16
Thanks mdr - seems like the same problem
When i went in today they said they just replaced diff oil and not diff - told them that i've had the problem since beofre the car had 10k and reported the problem every time i went in - originally i had to drive it for about 2hrs+ before i got the problem
anyway he said try it out - so looks like i'm going for a nice long drive this weekend :-P
When i went in today they said they just replaced diff oil and not diff - told them that i've had the problem since beofre the car had 10k and reported the problem every time i went in - originally i had to drive it for about 2hrs+ before i got the problem
anyway he said try it out - so looks like i'm going for a nice long drive this weekend :-P
#17
Thanks mdr - seems like the same problem
When i went in today they said they just replaced diff oil and not diff - told them that i've had the problem since beofre the car had 10k and reported the problem every time i went in - originally i had to drive it for about 2hrs+ before i got the problem
anyway he said try it out - so looks like i'm going for a nice long drive this weekend :-P
When i went in today they said they just replaced diff oil and not diff - told them that i've had the problem since beofre the car had 10k and reported the problem every time i went in - originally i had to drive it for about 2hrs+ before i got the problem
anyway he said try it out - so looks like i'm going for a nice long drive this weekend :-P
I know it can't be tires because it happens with the original tires and two separate sets of snow tires. I was thinking wheel bearings but you said they mentioned the diff oil. Any word there?
#18
Bringing up an old thread ... haven't posted in ages.
I did finally get the issue resolved, and by mazda and under warranty.
The stupid thing is, I never made the connection that this happened when I was turning at low speed. The reason for this was that I was traveling up and down the coast a lot and that is when I always noticed it. In both directions, the first stop I came to was at a set of lights where I had to turn. I just didn't put 2 and 2 together :-P
Anyway, I took it in to demonstrate. Drove for ages with no problem. Then when doing a U turn it happened. The mechanic knew what it was straight away: "Your diff is stuffed"
They said they'd deal with it. Went to pick it up and they said they'd changed the diff oil. It was very dirty etc.
I asked why would it be dirty? Wouldn't it only be dirty if there was something wrong with the diff?
They told me to see how it goes. I rang back within a week and told them it was still happening. They replaced the diff.
Probably not the same problem that slash is having, but thought I should give some conclusion to the story. :-)
Moral of the story: Don't let them just replace the diff oil. It wouldn't be full of gunk if the diff was working ok.
I did finally get the issue resolved, and by mazda and under warranty.
The stupid thing is, I never made the connection that this happened when I was turning at low speed. The reason for this was that I was traveling up and down the coast a lot and that is when I always noticed it. In both directions, the first stop I came to was at a set of lights where I had to turn. I just didn't put 2 and 2 together :-P
Anyway, I took it in to demonstrate. Drove for ages with no problem. Then when doing a U turn it happened. The mechanic knew what it was straight away: "Your diff is stuffed"
They said they'd deal with it. Went to pick it up and they said they'd changed the diff oil. It was very dirty etc.
I asked why would it be dirty? Wouldn't it only be dirty if there was something wrong with the diff?
They told me to see how it goes. I rang back within a week and told them it was still happening. They replaced the diff.
Probably not the same problem that slash is having, but thought I should give some conclusion to the story. :-)
Moral of the story: Don't let them just replace the diff oil. It wouldn't be full of gunk if the diff was working ok.
Last edited by the_marky; 12-07-2009 at 04:42 AM. Reason: Extra info
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