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01-18-2007, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by takahashi
The problem is that what they claim is unfounded. Especially we all know Kal was away on the alleged time.
01-18-2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Domza
"un truths" or unfounded fact is not necessarily actionable, unless it is slander or libel, but in this case libel, because it is published. The matter of the fact is however, its got to bring the person's name in to disrepute, against a localised audience.
I highly doubt that any action for defamation could exist.
I highly doubt that any action for defamation could exist.
) but otherwise agree with the thrust of that.
01-19-2007, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MissyK
but timbo they still saw my plates on the rd......... should i block them there too 
As to 'publishing' a photo containing a number plate, my understanding is this may be contrary to the National Privacy Principle in the case of the ISP or other 'publisher'.
That's why you generally see them obscured on television broadcasts around a specific incident.
I know it's a stretch, but I don't think it can be ignored
01-19-2007, 02:05 AM
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Even Initial D movie have their plates blurred.
it is a very sensitive topic, like publishing your name on the internet.
That is why I am really reluctant to tell people I am the Stig
it is a very sensitive topic, like publishing your name on the internet.
That is why I am really reluctant to tell people I am the Stig
01-19-2007, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
A bit garbled in delivery ( ) but otherwise agree with the thrust of that.
) but otherwise agree with the thrust of that.you knew what i meant :p, mission accomplished.
01-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
Actually, if they "saw" your plates on the road ...while dragging (which, of course, is not something you do) but hypothetically, and were prepared to give a statement to that effect, then it's a problem. Likewise a photo, revealing your number plate attached to a car, would be even more persuasive.
As to 'publishing' a photo containing a number plate, my understanding is this may be contrary to the National Privacy Principle in the case of the ISP or other 'publisher'.
That's why you generally see them obscured on television broadcasts around a specific incident.
I know it's a stretch, but I don't think it can be ignored
As to 'publishing' a photo containing a number plate, my understanding is this may be contrary to the National Privacy Principle in the case of the ISP or other 'publisher'.
That's why you generally see them obscured on television broadcasts around a specific incident.
I know it's a stretch, but I don't think it can be ignored
As for the contention that publishing a photo containing a number plate breaches some kind of privacy legislation, I doubt that would be the case. If the photo is taken in a public place, such as a public road, I'd suggest it's fair game unless you can point to something specific. Never heard of the NPP you speak of but it sounds more like a guideline or code of conduct rather than a binding law.
Plates are usually obscured around a specific incident by the media to safeguard the publisher against potential defamation allegations.
I can understand some people wanting to remain anonymous in a car forum for whatever reason (and such wishes should generally be respected if they're made known) but as far as I am aware, there's nothing illegal about posting pictures that reveal the plate.
01-19-2007, 07:48 PM
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it sounded so much better coming from a laywer 
Originally Posted by Revolver
It's pretty rare for a citizen's report of an alleged speeding offence to be taken seriously by the police. Lay witness estimates of speed are notoriously unreliable. Further, a still photo is not generally going to reveal a speeding offence. Might be a bit different if they get some video (or perhaps a still) of you doing something obviously illegal like running a red light or stop sign. But I don't see what this has got to do with the issue of posting pictures of cars showing plates in a forum. It's not like you can drive without plates, so if you're doing something silly and someone gets some objective evidence of it, then yes, you might get into some bother.
As for the contention that publishing a photo containing a number plate breaches some kind of privacy legislation, I doubt that would be the case. If the photo is taken in a public place, such as a public road, I'd suggest it's fair game unless you can point to something specific. Never heard of the NPP you speak of but it sounds more like a guideline or code of conduct rather than a binding law.
Plates are usually obscured around a specific incident by the media to safeguard the publisher against potential defamation allegations.
I can understand some people wanting to remain anonymous in a car forum for whatever reason (and such wishes should generally be respected if they're made known) but as far as I am aware, there's nothing illegal about posting pictures that reveal the plate.
As for the contention that publishing a photo containing a number plate breaches some kind of privacy legislation, I doubt that would be the case. If the photo is taken in a public place, such as a public road, I'd suggest it's fair game unless you can point to something specific. Never heard of the NPP you speak of but it sounds more like a guideline or code of conduct rather than a binding law.
Plates are usually obscured around a specific incident by the media to safeguard the publisher against potential defamation allegations.
I can understand some people wanting to remain anonymous in a car forum for whatever reason (and such wishes should generally be respected if they're made known) but as far as I am aware, there's nothing illegal about posting pictures that reveal the plate.
01-19-2007, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZY
it sounded so much better coming from a laywer
I guess the rego plate is the property of the VicRoads/RTA etc. So it is a public property - not yours.
01-19-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by takahashi
I guess the rego plate is the property of the VicRoads/RTA etc. So it is a public property - not yours.
01-19-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZY
i n NSW, you pay for the "right to display" the plates on your car annually.... (not too sure about Vic and other states) and in NSW, you dont own the lawn in front of your house, yet you are responsible to look after it....
01-19-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
As for the contention that publishing a photo containing a number plate breaches some kind of privacy legislation, I doubt that would be the case. If the photo is taken in a public place, such as a public road, I'd suggest it's fair game unless you can point to something specific. Never heard of the NPP you speak of but it sounds more like a guideline or code of conduct rather than a binding law.
NPP does not bind private citizens, but is applied where corporations are harvesting information which may contain, private, confidential, personal, credit type information.
There is no scope for breach of the NPP against the ISP , because the ISP was not the information gatherer.
01-20-2007, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by takahashi
It is the first time (prob) that I agree with Revolver with his reasonings
01-20-2007, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Domza
NPP is delegated legislation. It is not binding, but large corporations must adhere to the minimums set out by the NPP - most have higher demands on the corporation then the NPP.
NPP does not bind private citizens, but is applied where corporations are harvesting information which may contain, private, confidential, personal, credit type information.
There is no scope for breach of the NPP against the ISP , because the ISP was not the information gatherer.
NPP does not bind private citizens, but is applied where corporations are harvesting information which may contain, private, confidential, personal, credit type information.
There is no scope for breach of the NPP against the ISP , because the ISP was not the information gatherer.
01-20-2007, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Domza
Off topic: Revolver do you work for a top tier or middle tier in Sydney? wanna hook me up with my AC? :p
AC? Que?
01-20-2007, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
I'm at the bar Dom.
AC? Que?
AC? Que?
I know that NSW has pretty much scrapped Articles in favour of PLT... But i missed out on Articles in Melbourne... for some reason... I graduated with honours in law as well...
So for this year, im doing risk analysis.
I'd like to become a solicitor and do readings at the bar, but no one wants to give me a shot at being an AC. Lto of my friends had trouble getting articles as well.
01-20-2007, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZY
you guys dont have annual fees for personalised/customised plates... isnt that a once off fee for you guys herfe in Vic?
my SWYC is going to a Porsche
01-20-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Domza
Articled Clerkships
I know that NSW has pretty much scrapped Articles in favour of PLT... But i missed out on Articles in Melbourne... for some reason... I graduated with honours in law as well...
So for this year, im doing risk analysis.
I'd like to become a solicitor and do readings at the bar, but no one wants to give me a shot at being an AC. Lto of my friends had trouble getting articles as well.
I know that NSW has pretty much scrapped Articles in favour of PLT... But i missed out on Articles in Melbourne... for some reason... I graduated with honours in law as well...
So for this year, im doing risk analysis.
I'd like to become a solicitor and do readings at the bar, but no one wants to give me a shot at being an AC. Lto of my friends had trouble getting articles as well.
Yeah, articles went out a long time ago. Plenty of people work as a law clerk/paralegal while studying part time though. That's how I did it. Got an exemption from the College of Law because I was able to demonstrate enough practical experience. PLT as a more extended program came in after I was admitted.
Congrats on your honours. The problem you and your friends are facing is that so many people have studied law over the past 10-15 years that there's a glut of bottom feeders at the moment.
Never mind, you'll get a shot. In the meantime any experience you get elsewhere will help you.