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Old 07-11-2010, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
I'll buy that .
Pettit went through the same thing - it took a while before decent numbers started appearing .

However my translation of your first post went kinda like this

"we got a crap result and don't want anyone to know"


BTW - I do have as much experience as anyone here with tuning via Protuner and am happy to help if you need any.
Hahaha, lost in translation methinks.

As I said, I'm fine with the performance to date and will post some hard figures in due course (i.e. when I'm ready ).

Thanks for the offer. I've got Hymee looking at one or two things, so feel free to contact him if you think you can add some value...
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Originally Posted by Revolver
Hahaha, lost in translation methinks.

As I said, I'm fine with the performance to date and will post some hard figures in due course (i.e. when I'm ready ).

Thanks for the offer. I've got Hymee looking at one or two things, so feel free to contact him if you think you can add some value...
If Hymee ever replied to my emails i would .......
Old 07-11-2010, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
If Hymee ever replied to my emails i would .......
Fair call. I know for a fact he's busier than a one-armed wallpaper hanger, so I'm sure it's not intentional.
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so? hows it , revolver?
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Still don't have my blower..
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When are we going to get the full story on this ? I know there is one ....
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Yeah, getting kind of ridiculous.

Last I heard there was a small issue.. Was expecting it to ship end of June... BEH!
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Originally Posted by zoom44
so? hows it , revolver?
One word: solid

The throttle response is addictive, as is the blower whine

Still have to resolve a 'soft' code engine light but mechanically it's fine thus far. Will need to fit second oil cooler and some gauges before I track it tho.
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nice to hear. whats the code?

looking forward to hearing some numbers when you have a chance.
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I'm really interested to see some #'s too man.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
nice to hear. whats the code?

looking forward to hearing some numbers when you have a chance.
Codes are at work, so I can't be specific ATM but they are coil related. We installed brand new coils when the kit went on because the previous ones were showing arc damage. Codes have also been checked against another known set of good coils and all connections checked, etc but they keep coming back. Obviously they can be cleared but the engine light appears again after two drive cycles (described to me as a 'soft' code). I got an experienced Mazda tech to look at it and he's satisfied that it's a flash tune issue rather than mechanical - the car is running perfectly.

Hymee is looking into it. Danny's car has not had this issue, so I doubt it's kit related. I've had coil issues with the car previously (this is the 3rd set i've installed), so I wonder whether the ECM is throwing a false positive?

Interestingly, another Mazda Australia bloke I spoke to said the main reason they didn't go ahead with their turbo project was because of persistent ECM issues. Mechanically the cars were fine but they kept throwing codes. I have no idea if that is accurate or half-informed rumour but they must have had a good reason to burn that r&d work.

I'll post dyno numbers in due course. Meanwhile, interested in any thoughts on my code issue...
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Originally Posted by Revolver
...so I wonder whether the ECM is throwing a false positive?
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could be an electrical gremlin. seems strange that it is the flash. you don't really need to change much for it to work with FI.

there are also a few pro-tuner users who have used the system for awhile and I haven't heard of any similar occurrences.

do you know what mazda flash version you have? if it is the same as another pro-tuner user and they don't have the same issues then it would most likely be electrical.

how does bad coils manifest itself? I'm still using my original coils after 6 years. when I have had miss fires it is really noticeable but doesn't always throw a code. I put it down to running to rich and drowning out the spark.
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could be an electrical gremlin. seems strange that it is the flash. you don't really need to change much for it to work with FI.

there are also a few pro-tuner users who have used the system for awhile and I haven't heard of any similar occurrences.

do you know what mazda flash version you have? if it is the same as another pro-tuner user and they don't have the same issues then it would most likely be electrical.

how does bad coils manifest itself? I'm still using my original coils after 6 years. when I have had miss fires it is really noticeable but doesn't always throw a code. I put it down to running to rich and drowning out the spark.
It's beyond my knowledge Jarl, so I'm leaving it to the experts to figure out while I work on containing wheel spin - badly need some decent wet weather rubber

You certainly know it when the coils let go - the thing sounds like a tractor and loses power.
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Dave, Just as a suggestion are your Earths or Ground wires purchase OK??...

Jarl, SIX YEARS on Original Coils.!!..wow...that is long, how many Kilometers again??..
Even though your car might be running OK, I would seriously look at renewing them, Fuel consumption OK?...high RPM??

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just on 60K km. the coils did about 40K N/A with plenty of high rpm then 10k boosted 8500rpm and now I only run to 7500rpm.

I only just replaced my ignition leads the other day. I spotted some corrosion on a plug end and thought it was time :D new ignition leads made a big difference. not to power but for starting.

fuel economy is hard to say since boost and a heavy foot play such a big role.
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Originally Posted by Revolver

Still have to resolve a 'soft' code engine light but mechanically it's fine thus far. Will need to fit second oil cooler and some gauges before I track it tho.
I don't know about you people, but if I spent the thousands of dollars Revolver has on this upgrade, I'd want everything to be in order by now. Unanswered emails are a concern.

The way I read it there are still unresolved issues and they won't be fixed in a hurry. Theres no way I'd be happy with this outcome.
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As much as i hate to do it I'll be posting a bad guy thread as soon as I have the time
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Dave, Just as a suggestion are your Earths or Ground wires purchase OK??...
I've had all connections checked by both the installer and a Mazda tech Ash. I suppose it's possible both missed something but both are experienced, competent mechanics. I guess I could get an auto-electrician to look at it...
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Originally Posted by shotgun
I don't know about you people, but if I spent the thousands of dollars Revolver has on this upgrade, I'd want everything to be in order by now. Unanswered emails are a concern.

The way I read it there are still unresolved issues and they won't be fixed in a hurry. Theres no way I'd be happy with this outcome.
and who are you, exactly? go crap somewhere else...
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As much as i hate to do it I'll be posting a bad guy thread as soon as I have the time
This is all a bit cryptic but let me repeat, Danny's car has not had this ECM issue, so it's not endemic to the kit. Mechanically, the kit is doing it's job perfectly.

I'll be interested to hear if any other installers have ECM issues though.
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I didn't have a personal go at you so get off your fucken high horse.

If you're going to publicly post up engine problems with this upgrade then people have a right to read it, especially if they are considering getting the same upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Revolver

my immediate reaction.....to posting any more information is to tell you to bugger off ( Aussies aren't good at being told what to do). So anyone considering further attempts are wasting their time and diminishing their chances.

frankly I couldn't give a crap. Talk is cheap.
so I would give up shotgun....
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Originally Posted by shotgun
I didn't have a personal go at you so get off your fucken high horse.

If you're going to publicly post up engine problems with this upgrade then people have a right to read it, especially if they are considering getting the same upgrade.
Read it, yes. Make ill-informed assumptions, no.

For the record, Hymee's 'after sales service' has been prompt and excellent. He has not ignored any of my communications, despite fielding enquiries from a multitude atm. So there are no "unanswered emails".

Bear in mind too that he does all this while holding down a full time job, etc, etc. If you ever met and spent time with the guy (as I have over a number of years now), you'd appreciate how much time and money he's invested into this project - we're not talking about a fully fledged after market manufacturer here and those who have invested in the kit have done so for reasons other than a simple walk in and walk out purchasing experience - we want something a little bit different than what is otherwise on offer.

On what basis do you assert that there are "unresolved issues that won't be fixed in a hurry"? One of the issues I had with the car was fixed as soon as humanly possible at some cost to Hymee in terms of convenience, time and money, which I appreciated.

The remaining code issue is nuisance value really - mechanically the car is fine and the kit is doing what it says on the tin. We think we now know what's causing the code to appear (I'm not about to speculate further now as to details until we know for sure but it's fairly innocuous) and it's simply a matter of getting it sorted out - it has not interfered with my use of the car in any way. It's a tuning issue that needs to be dialled out rather than an "engine problem".

There's always a price to pay for being an early adopter with a limited capacity developer/manufacturer - you WILL get some teething issues. So, you can either accept that and calmly work through them with a willing and co-operative vendor (again, you'd know this if you knew Hymee) or you can sit back with the rest of the masses and wait for all issues to be sorted out for you by owners like me.

As for having a shot at you, you're not doing yourself any favours with a generalised negative spray like that on a limited post count. How was it in any way constructive? Did it add anything of value or was it simply you having a vague whinge? Shotgun by name, shotgun by nature it seems.

Otherwise, what Fazda said...

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hey Revolver - welcome to the world of FI .
This is where the real arguments are ...... LOL
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Originally Posted by Brettus
hey Revolver - welcome to the world of FI .
This is where the real arguments are ...... LOL
And the real benefits - I'm particularly loving 3rd gear atm.

Those who expect something like this to be delivered all nicely wrapped up with a bow can kiss my experimental ***.


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