RotorMaster "blown 13B-MSP" RX-8
08-12-2005, 09:13 AM
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RotorMaster "blown 13B-MSP" RX-8
G'day guys.
Am about to do a full feature on the latest weapon from ROTORMASTER for ZOOM magazine. This baby revs with serious grunt right through to 9000rpm. All with a standard exhaust.
Damned Joe, put a Hymee system on that test mule would ya.
Here are some pics of the install for the supercharged 13B-MSP
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Am about to do a full feature on the latest weapon from ROTORMASTER for ZOOM magazine. This baby revs with serious grunt right through to 9000rpm. All with a standard exhaust.
Damned Joe, put a Hymee system on that test mule would ya.
Here are some pics of the install for the supercharged 13B-MSP
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08-12-2005, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
interesting setup....makes a tad bit over 200hp? or am i reading it wrong?
only the yanks use horsepower, the rest of the world uses kilowatts
08-12-2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Didn't these guys build the Red turbo 8 also down there?
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08-12-2005, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hymee
Oops - where's da battery?
What no comments on the dyno chart or on the power output :D or the install hopefully you will get better figures than this unit ??
Arent you also using the TSI unit or an Equivalent thereof ???
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08-12-2005, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
Properly in the boot
What no comments on the dyno chart or on the power output :D or the install hopefully you will get better figures than this unit ??
Arent you also using the TSI unit or an Equivalent thereof ???
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What no comments on the dyno chart or on the power output :D or the install hopefully you will get better figures than this unit ??
Arent you also using the TSI unit or an Equivalent thereof ???
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michael
The engine management is the TSI interface into the standard ECU. Maximum boost is at 0.5-bar as thats the maximum flow of the standard injectors.
Rotormaster plans to find the upper limits of boost into those 10:1 rotors by upgrading the injectors for more flow & raising boost to 0.8-bar.
They are going to be sold as kits like the turbo units. The Turbo kits are still selling but Joe has found the supercharged kit flows better & gives more torque.
Pricing on the kits is something I dont know yet. I am getting the RX-8 next week for the driving test & will post results here for you all. Thats months before the rest of Oz gets it from ZOOM magazine.
On that subject, get this issue of ZOOM. Its the best one yet & has plenty of technical rotary information that all you RX-8 guys will need to know.
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08-12-2005, 06:45 PM
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I've been dreaming about this type of setup with a centrifugal SC mounted with the compressor forward for awhile now.
looks great!
looks like the procharger SC's don't need oil from the engine?
looks great!
looks like the procharger SC's don't need oil from the engine?
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08-12-2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
Properly in the boot
What no comments on the dyno chart or on the power output :D or the install hopefully you will get better figures than this unit ??
Arent you also using the TSI unit or an Equivalent thereof ???
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michael
What no comments on the dyno chart or on the power output :D or the install hopefully you will get better figures than this unit ??
Arent you also using the TSI unit or an Equivalent thereof ???
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michael
Thanks for your reply
i was actually triyng to get the HYMSTERS REPLY TO MY POST , BUT AS USUAL THE POLITICALLY CORRECT HYMEE KEEPS ALL HIS THOUGHTS CLOSELY GUARDED . and seldom makes a statement that may be controversial . he would make a great politician 
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08-12-2005, 11:20 PM
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rotarygods comments on the centrifugal supercharger
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/rotormaster-blown-13b-msp-rx-8-a-69133/
"quote rotarygod"
You can see the battery in the pictures. It is the small red thing on the driver's side next to the intake pipes.
How much boost was this running?
I have a couple of concerns but hopefully this can be attributed to the fact this is just a prototype. The air intake on that is sucking up really really hot air from the backside of the radiator. It would make alot more power if it got outside air. I would have liked to have seen different routing for the intercooler pipes more along the lines of going down and under like some turbo kits have done. This way the intake could be routed to the stock location and it could get colder air. The maf is also after the blower which concerns me. If it is running off of a standalone ecu which only taps into the temperature sensor part of the maf then I fully understand but if they are using a piggyback ecu system they might run into problems. Hopefully this is just a prototype to see if it works and they'll get the bugs worked out of it.
Everyone look at that torque curve. Yes it is flat but it is flat going uphill. Centrifugal blowers are all top end power. They don't have much on the low end. Compare this to the Mazsport Greddy torque curve at about the same peak power level and you'll notice that the Greddy has tons more usable power lower in the rpm range. This is just an inherent side effect of centrifugal blowers.
I'm not insulting them for this kit in any way. I am happy that we are suddenly seeing more and more options out there for this car. I am just merely pointing some things out to make people aware of them. People just need to realize there is more than just peak power to look at....quote"
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https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/rotormaster-blown-13b-msp-rx-8-a-69133/
"quote rotarygod"
You can see the battery in the pictures. It is the small red thing on the driver's side next to the intake pipes.
How much boost was this running?
I have a couple of concerns but hopefully this can be attributed to the fact this is just a prototype. The air intake on that is sucking up really really hot air from the backside of the radiator. It would make alot more power if it got outside air. I would have liked to have seen different routing for the intercooler pipes more along the lines of going down and under like some turbo kits have done. This way the intake could be routed to the stock location and it could get colder air. The maf is also after the blower which concerns me. If it is running off of a standalone ecu which only taps into the temperature sensor part of the maf then I fully understand but if they are using a piggyback ecu system they might run into problems. Hopefully this is just a prototype to see if it works and they'll get the bugs worked out of it.
Everyone look at that torque curve. Yes it is flat but it is flat going uphill. Centrifugal blowers are all top end power. They don't have much on the low end. Compare this to the Mazsport Greddy torque curve at about the same peak power level and you'll notice that the Greddy has tons more usable power lower in the rpm range. This is just an inherent side effect of centrifugal blowers.
I'm not insulting them for this kit in any way. I am happy that we are suddenly seeing more and more options out there for this car. I am just merely pointing some things out to make people aware of them. People just need to realize there is more than just peak power to look at....quote"
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