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Old 01-13-2008, 03:16 AM
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Series 2 claimed to be faster

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...mh:ClassiePuff
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Yes, because its 50kg lighter.

Mazda will remove some luxury specification – such as Bose stereo and sunroof – to shed about 50kg from the RX-8’s kerb weight to ensure it’s the fastest-accelerating model in the range. The RX-8 range-topper should break the six-second barrier in the 0-100km/h sprint, with the current model claiming 6.2sec.
Why is this ground breaking? Cloth pack is the same.
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The easy way to lose 50kg is to kick out your passenger.
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Originally Posted by auzoom
Yes, because its 50kg lighter.



Why is this ground breaking? Cloth pack is the same.
I took it to mean a deliberate attempt to show it quicker than the MPS3, which if the Rx8 is the flagship, it perhaps should?
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Possibly an attempt at exactly what they say "to ensure it’s the fastest-accelerating model in the range" not sure specifically about the MPS3 (Not particularly interested in 0-100km times). Personally I think the removal of the stereo is a good thing. Most people want to replace that piece of poo Bose anyway and the sunroof, well its a personal thing.

If you have a current model and want faster 0-100 then remove your rear and passenger seat
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Originally Posted by auzoom
Possibly an attempt at exactly what they say "to ensure it’s the fastest-accelerating model in the range" not sure specifically about the MPS3 (Not particularly interested in 0-100km times). Personally I think the removal of the stereo is a good thing. Most people want to replace that piece of poo Bose anyway and the sunroof, well its a personal thing.

If you have a current model and want faster 0-100 then remove your rear and passenger seat
There was a lot of anger on the Rx8 forum about the MPS 3 having quikcer 0-100 times. That's what I'm guessing is the reason. Personally I agree with you, its more about the twistees, but a lot of people questioned why the flagship (Rx8) would (a) cost more and (b) be slower.
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Originally Posted by MissyK
how many seconds quicker would a car be by losing 50kg?

ps nice to c u still around lucifuge!
http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm

Depends how you look at it, but in a straight line over 1/4 mile about 1 sec I think.
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Originally Posted by lucifuge
There was a lot of anger on the Rx8 forum about the MPS 3 having quikcer 0-100 times. That's what I'm guessing is the reason. Personally I agree with you, its more about the twistees, but a lot of people questioned why the flagship (Rx8) would (a) cost more and (b) be slower.
I would be dissapointed if Mazda started playing into the hands of the straight line junkies
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Aiming to sell more than 1000 a year!

More RX-8 track day! Hurray!
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Originally Posted by MissyK
how many seconds quicker would a car be by losing 50kg?

ps nice to c u still around lucifuge!
cheers missyk!

dont know if i posted this already, but i put pix up of my new Mazda Mx5 on Flickr. Enjoy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11907936@N02/
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Well, back on topic, they've also changed the gear ratios on the upcoming model to pull 0-100 times under 6 seconds according to some of the articles floating around.
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I have only "read" final drive, and I dont see how that can affect acceleration times. But as I pointed out elsewhere, it looks like the gearbox is different, look at the shift pattern. I wonder if its the same gearbox with different internals, new model or totally different???
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I wouldn't trust drive.com.au to tell me how many wheels it has. It's just one long advertorial for the manufacturers.

I'll wait until it gets tested but I tend to agree about 0-100 times. Although it deserves more power for the chassis it has and should be the quickest car in Mazda's range, there'll always be plenty of hi-po taxis that will beat it in TLGP's.
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RX-8 when it is launched was a 6.2 sec. I wonder anyone achieve that.

But I also agree that the gear box is new and hope it is a close ratio. And I hope it is transferable to the current model. Then I have no reserve (except for spare cash) to break the gearbox.

I wonder if it changes anything in the ECU or it runs funny if I change the gear ratio. Don't think so....
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In addition to losing weight, it has a new rear end that will give you faster acceleration. And the exhaust is 3.5"
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Originally Posted by takahashi
RX-8 when it is launched was a 6.2 sec. I wonder anyone achieve that.
Yeah, I wondered at that. Quickest I've heard is 6.4 and even that sounds doubtful to me. Mind you, test conditions add a lot of variation, not to mention that not all production cars are the same.
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Well, back on topic, they've also changed the gear ratios on the upcoming model to pull 0-100 times under 6 seconds according to some of the articles floating around.
Yes they have changed gear ratio from 4.444 TO 4.777 a ever so slight increase in PERFORMANCE

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That is final gear but I hope the actual cogs are closer
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To be honest, I've always thought the gearing was fine other than making 6th a genuine overdrive for freeway fuel consumption.
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Originally Posted by erx8s
Yes they have changed gear ratio from 4.444 TO 4.777 a ever so slight increase in PERFORMANCE

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Where did you read that?
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Originally Posted by Revolver
To be honest, I've always thought the gearing was fine other than making 6th a genuine overdrive for freeway fuel consumption.
I believe gearing in first is too tall ... we lose off the line acceleration because of it. If they shorten it and keep the rest the same I'd be happy. But you're right on making 6th a genuine overdrive.
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I believe gearing in first is too tall ... we lose off the line acceleration because of it. If they shorten it and keep the rest the same I'd be happy. But you're right on making 6th a genuine overdrive.
1st --- 3.760
2nd --- 2.269
3rd --- 1.645
4th --- 1.187
5th --- 1.000
6th --- 0.843
Reverse --- 3.564

Final --- 4.44
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I believe gearing in first is too tall ... we lose off the line acceleration because of it.
I thought the same when I first got the car but it just requires an adjustment to your launch technique.
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But in everyday traffic I'm not gonna be launching my car. It'd be nice just to lazily accelerate over the other traffic rather than waiting for 6000rpms.


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