SSV valve stuck closed
#26
The best way is to remove the upper intake manifold and spray down the secondary runners.
People suggest just spraying through the throttle body, but you're then spraying the mist blindly into the manifold where it can run down the primary, secondary, or auxiliary runners so its not really a focused spray.
And don't believe people if they suggest spraying into the maintenance ports.
The maintenance ports are on the primary runners and will never reach ANY of the intake valves.
People suggest just spraying through the throttle body, but you're then spraying the mist blindly into the manifold where it can run down the primary, secondary, or auxiliary runners so its not really a focused spray.
And don't believe people if they suggest spraying into the maintenance ports.
The maintenance ports are on the primary runners and will never reach ANY of the intake valves.
#28
The upper intake manifold is the same thing as the intake manifold extension.
I don't have a pic of what to remove, but basically anything attached to it needs to be removed.
TIP: Have multiple extensions and wobble/u-joints available. You'll need them!
I don't have a pic of what to remove, but basically anything attached to it needs to be removed.
TIP: Have multiple extensions and wobble/u-joints available. You'll need them!
#29
Sorry yes I did notice that right after I posted. Okay so here's the other thing - if one stands beside the engine and gets some one else to rev it to say 7,000 rpm - can one see this valve actuating from the outside? As a means of checking operation apart from pulling the UIM off etc?
#30
I've tried this on a couple cars and it never moved.
Watching a Renesis Training module verified my suspicions when it mentioned that you also need to be at a certain engine load (which requires you moving) for that valve to open.
I'll have to try this again...
#31
No. It actuates based on RPM and vehicle speed (or more specifically Engine Load).
So just sitting still and revving it won't actuate the valve.
FYI: The SSV opens above 3250rpm.
I made a video on how to check the intake valves in this thread:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-troubleshoot-intake-valves-174009/
you can remove the upper manifold or follow the procedure listed above.
the UIM is just as hard to remove and you probably wouldn't get to the surfaces that are really stuck.
I would test the valves action by hand if it doesn't move as freely as it does in the vid then you should follow the Mazda procedure.
#32
Can you help me understand something. I want to use (if I can) seafoam to unclogg the thigamajig that gets stuck. You know the one you where jabbing at with a really long screw driver in the old pic when you helped that local out.
What I do is take the hose off the brake boster (see pic) and put it in the can of seafoam then crank the car. It gets choked out and wants to stall. To avoid the risk of flooding I do not give it any gas and **** the car off.
So where does all the seafoam go? (see second pic)
On a side note; some guy on youtube said he put some in the spark plug holes. Why did he do that? whats the bennefit? where do the holes lead to?
#33
It took awhile doing that before the valve could be opened with a vacuum pump attached to the actuator.
If the SSV is truly stuck, its best to just remove the valve and clean it.
Soon as I have time, I'll try to make a DIY on how to do this.
If sprayed through the booster line (or the throttle body) and liquid can travel through any one of those passages/runners.
That's why I'm not a fan of this technique to "decarb" the SSV.
No reason to spray it through the spark plug holes, we just use the maintenance ports on the side of the intake manifold.
This is so one person can crank the engine while the other is spraying into the maintenance ports for ten seconds.
Last edited by Jon316G; 09-10-2009 at 09:19 PM.
#34
Are you saying that the SSV moved on its own with the car sitting still and simply revving?
I've tried this on a couple cars and it never moved.
Watching a Renesis Training module verified my suspicions when it mentioned that you also need to be at a certain engine load (which requires you moving) for that valve to open.
I'll have to try this again...
I've tried this on a couple cars and it never moved.
Watching a Renesis Training module verified my suspicions when it mentioned that you also need to be at a certain engine load (which requires you moving) for that valve to open.
I'll have to try this again...
Last edited by Julean; 09-11-2009 at 11:17 PM.
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