NRVOUS

Here are some poics from the show!

I'm sure that its only a matter of time until we see the RX8SP badge come out, I have a mate thats already ordered the number plates.

I think Mazda shoud just brink out an all out ball tearing triple rotor Renesis with out the fuss of turbocharging, we all know the RX8 chassis is crying out more grunt....... Now just bring it on so we can whip those Porsches in the Bathurst 24hr again!!!!!!!!
270KW should be a breeze without any form of forced induction for a screaming triple rotor

NRVOUS

few more pics :D :D

Lock & Load

NRVOUS

Thanks for the pics , the turboed rx8 doesnt do it for me , white mags eek , cheap looking front bonnet scoops , Gt stripes white , whoever thought of this look should be given a royal kick in the nuts .

Heres a pic of some serious looking bonnet scoops.

cheers
michael

PS :The only positive on the car is the possibility of getting 270kw and 350nm and at this stage it looks like they are playing with themselves , real wankels .

takahashi

I would like to drive the car at Sandown and see.... from my readings, I have doubt in the followings:

1. 6 piston brake at front (now I assume that it is only on the front). Even with sport pad at the back. People in Japan commented that it is unbalanced. Certainly Fujita did that in their race again Dream Factory and Dream Factory with only MS brake will out brake Fujita's AP racing caliper.

2. Bonnet sticker, silver eye, white wheel with red car, and a RX-8 painted on the wheel :suck:

3. Eibach spring with stock shock.... are they seriously just for looks, are they racing this thing or not?!

EDIT: No one commented on the uneven front and rear tyre diameter... anyone go and asked the guy....
sound like if I were there... I will ask those questions...

One thing worth considering:

the fuel door. -0- I might get the one from Rosenthal Mazda and paint the centre bit body colour.

Gibbo

Taka,
The Car doesn't even run properly yet, it was done for the show only. They are having still having teething problems. They said it will take a couple of months to get the whole FI thing sorted. So I think the cosmetics and track time will be perfected after it stops crapping itself.

AMG

NRVOUS, I've had RX8SP number plates since the RX8 came out with the intention of getting the SP when it comes out, or selling the plates for $$$$

NRVOUS

AMG,

This guy used to have an RX7SP replica with 260RWKW and is a turbo nut, so he cant wait for a genuine Mazda SP version of the RX8. I personally would prefer the triple rotor approach, having owned many turbo rockets in the past, my old favorite being a 600HP R32 GTR....... turbos just suffer from heat sink during our summer months with excessive under bonnet temps causing all sorts of grief!

takahashi

hoooi.... I am relieved thx Gibbo

AMG .... good on your crystal ball. I should have done something like that. .... what should I start getting RX-9? EVO 9?

rpm_pwr

Taka, As usual where to start with you.

# of pistons has nothing to do with brake bias.
The radiator HAS been changed.
nobody said the shocks were stock
the tyres sizes were wrong. Look at the rim specs.

stasis1

Taka get EVO 10 brand new chasis and everything!! BTW wat are you studying in Doctors?

takahashi

I keep learning english for the next 20 years then maybe you will know what I am talking about

I said a strong front brake will create brake bias unless you have a decent rear, which is hard to find - and god if they have find it, I will jump onto it for sure. How many rice boy in Japan have done the front brake and became a drifter under brake I wonder if there are anykit will change brake balance - like in the open wheelers and V8SCs.

Sorry, I did not know radiator has been changed - do you know which one?

They have said about Eibach spring but not shock - isn't that obvious? Mazda said somewhere in the media release there will be a"b" spec with fully tuned suspension... that make me think it is just lowered

Yes they are 19" but they are still different in size are they? - fatter tyre at the back and I quote from our US forumer "a big understeer" <-- hey this is a direct quote, don't shoot me for that.

I bloody hope they will bring the car to the next RX-8 drive day to test it out. I will shut up and let them do their job at present.

Questions make people think. Thinking and problem solving display intelligence. Are we meant to **** off anyway in the pubic forum? Keep the brainwave coming rpm pwr. hehe :D

rpm_pwr

Bigger/better front brakes simply don't affect bias. Fade resistance, sure but not bias. Bias on the FD3S was/is factory adjustable, I'd be surprised if the RX-8 wasn't.

The rad is a PWR (Paul Wheel Racing) unit. PWR are one of the best in the game.

The rims are 8". Which simply can't take 255 tyres properly. So clearly someone in the PR dept. has made a mistake.

I just think you're rushing to negative conclusions about the car with very little information at hand. That's not problem solving. Like him or not, Horsley has put together some damn quick race cars. If Rick Bates can set faster stage times than JR at Targa Tas before they had the electrical failure in the ancient SP a few years ago, I'd say they know what they're doing.

BTW don't worry about your english. I don't even know what a 'bravewave' is :o

AMG

Taka front brakes do over 80% of braking power. The rear are simply "stabilisers". If you want to change the bias it's simply done by an inboard bias adjuster (I've had one of these on my racer and they are a pain in the butt to get adjusted correctly) or by changing the brake plumbing. The only time I've really adjusted bias on a track was in extreme wet conditions. As rpm_pwr said, bigger front brakes do not affect bias.

takahashi

thx for the explanation rpm pwr

I am still not sure about the brake bit though. I need some convincing and testing them out.

19"x8 are hard to find are they??? .... you are right Mazda media always make mistake and I should not take what they said and trust my fellow forumer.

I am not negative about the car. I am just having a lot of questions. I am working most of them out in my head. I only have limited fund to mod the car. Working an RX-8 is different from working from a RX-7 and I just want to see some result first :o

takahashi

Oh I miss AMG's comment as well....

hmmm. AMG do you think you can just put a bigger front brake and be happy about it or you have to take it to the track and adjust it later in the garage? Sound like a fun excercise to do... I will be just happy with my brake pads hmm.... after seeing the race in BM video of 4 modded RX-8s in the circuit, it does not seem like the front caliper change will have significant increase in perfomance cf. the brake pads only. Brake caliper will be lower down on the list of mods unless I do it for the looks - I admit they do look great and aggressive (and noisy too!)

Won't that be nice if the RX-8 stop like the Lotus Exige with ABS

AMG

For track work, yes you put on bigger front brakes. test on the track and then sort it out in the garage if needed. When I put in the brake bias adjuster it took about three saturdays worth of testing to fine tune it but the end result was a car that could brake from 180km/hr in less than 100m. Obviously tyre pressures, tyre selection and brake compound played important roles in this braking distance.

RXP33D

8inch rims???
Are you guys sure, I looked at the car from behind and difinitely saw some PH/Fatter rims than my stock. At the rear treads anyways.
Exhaust tips are also angled, I'd prefer Hymee's tips anyday!
They're TE37s im pretty sure.

takahashi

thx AMG... sounds fun to do that. It will great if they have made the turbo 8 working... I will mod it eventually like that and kick some R34's (which my friend has) butt.. I am still dreaming, aint I?

Choppy

Actually i loved the curved exhaust tips.. I have not really liked the look of all the old exhausts but an angled version looks really really good.

i might give the boys a call and asked them who pulled it off for them..

EZZY this place across the road from Kingsgrove sports centre? There is a huge Mazda Sign out site i thought it was like a Mazda HQ or something?

Anyone interested in doing a breaking in an enter to see whats going on there?? Just jokes.

Regards
Phillip

daz1300

i got an exclusve call from "someone" at mazda australia... to go and have a look.

so on opening day I am there looking at this, to be told from someone else I know from Mulgrave Vic that

this "concept" car is very concept, just to get an idea of peoples reaction, even if its a strong positive reaction, they really "WONT" want to go ahead with it. Kinda weird

IMO .. if they make 3 or so allocation maybe 1 for Mazda's CEO, one for guy seb. and Allan will prob. hold onto 1.

this is just what I've heard

Gomez

Daz, as Mazda sponsor Australian Idol, Guy will hand back his RX-8 as soon as they ask him to fork out the dollars to buy it! But, since he is currently still hot property....he'll have the thing for a while yet. I'd rather see the 3rd one go to Ric Shaw to replace the bent RX-7.....

Hmmm, then again, I'd do a pretty good job of keeping the thing in the public eye.... :D .

Gomez.

Choppy

Wont be till another 2 years to see something from Mazda that is turbo and maybe ready for sales i guesstimate.

WHy bother adding a turbo or even super charged version when normal versions are selling so well still??? A teaser is a teaser just like many other concepts some make it some dont make it onto the road.

Lock & Load

If and when Mazda in its wisdom decides to bring out a turbo/supercharged RX8 IT WILL BE TO LATE :D as aftermarket engineers rotary gurus will beat them to the punch most likely producing a better more powerfull product , readily available to current RX8 owners . :p

Mazda not only will miss out on the money but on the prestige of being the first to offer a supercharged /turbo alternative .

Mazda has allways been conservative in the power stakes , in their upgrades .

By the time Mazda pull their fingers out id would have already had my turbo/supercharged RX8 and moved on to a possible different ride .

Generally my attention span for any car is 3-4 years .

So come on Hymee come on come on come on Hyme come on .

cheers
michael

takahashi

I think Hymee will have the supercharger winning races before Mazda start drawing anything on paper.

AMG

Michael, I think you've got it wrong. All you have to do is look at the RX7 SP. Mazda Aust put together a package aimed at defeating the Porsche's and getting sales and they did a damn good job of it. Also, remember that it is MAzda Australia doing this, not Mazda HQ. Try comparing the MX5 SP v's the MX5 SE and you'll see what MA try to achieve.

If MA get their marketing right they will certainly be on a winner.

I take my hat off to all that are developing FI for the 8, however the main advantage that MA will have with the devlopment of a turbo 8 is a decent warranty.