rotarenvy

I read on the RB web site that they have oil cooler screens for the rx8 and that the 6sp in america needs a left and right one? so they have two oil coolers on the american cars.
this suprised me as I would guess .au has higher summer and winter temps. why do they need two coolers and we only need one?

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

Yeah, in other parts of the world they get 2 oil coolers, but only with the 6-port engines.

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

How do you figure AU gets higher and lower temp swings?

We go from -20°F to 105°F here in DC and our weather is considered mild.
We will occasionally go from 15°F to 80°F and back again for a few days in the transitional periods.

In the west, it is not uncommon to swing from -20°F or less at night to 115°F or more during the day.

Lock & Load

Cost cutting , cost cutting and cost cutting by MAZDA head office is why we dont get two oil coolers here in Australia , the weather argument is :B/S

cheers
michael

takahashi

is a sandal... a rip off

the con job

rotarenvy

I didn't say higher temp swings. I said higher sumer and winter temps. your a lot further from the equator than I am my climate is more like florida (similar latitude).

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

Althought I think it is weird to do special builds just for us...

The car is covered by a comprehensive warranty, so if it proves inadequate and costs them money in the long run, then I suppose we might see recall and the issue resolved. But I wouldn't hold my breath. I think we have had enough collective experience in this country, on the road, on the track, stuck in traffic and on the dyno to indicate the design is adequate.

I would be more worried about protecting them with the worlds first RX-8 grill kit

Cheers,
Hymee.

takahashi

sigh.... after I met Michael, I conclude that Queenslanders are natural salesman :D

DMRH

I see some are learning what Mazda Australia are really like.

Dont forget the fact that the same RX-8 in Japan is just $38k new................

Despite the ready cash to buy one. I just cant bring myself to do it knowing the price difference & Aussie profitering. (dealers excepted)

Another scam by Mazda Australia is the fact that the auto is more expensive than the manual. The same cars in Japan & USA for example are cheaper. Go figure that. Would love to hear the lame excuse for these two..........lol

takahashi

the price difference... it is called TAX!



Expensive... wait until you talk to a Singaporian!

DMRH

Not likely dude.

Price difference between Aussie & Jap version are around 8%-15% depending on the model.

M2, M3, M6, MPV etc

Then you get to the RX-8.

Price difference is 60%.

No one with half a brain is going to swallow the "tax" excuse. If so, then the 60% tax would be across the board.

EG, the M6 hatch = $30k in Japan + $33k in Oz.

Apply the 60% tax rule & an M6 hatch rises to $48k in Oz.

Called "profitering" mate, sorry to open your eyes..........

takahashi

Luxary sell tax is a thing... most sports car are heavily uprised in their price when coming to Australia.

Why a personal import then being penalised on tax. I was going to import an Civic Type R but later find out it would cost me A$50K (half gone to do the qualification stuff - I call it "tax") to get all compliance done and registered. Then the Integra Type R come out for A$40K. ???? why they are so cheap then???

Try to ask this question to Mazda Australia, Nissan for 350Z, Porsche for their Boxster. I can get the boxster S with the price we are paying for the RX-8. what with that?

I don't have an MBA. In fact, unless you are not living Australia most of the time. I don't really care. I just have to take it. The motor industry will place the car in the market against competition. If Porsche Boxster S is the same price as RX-8 and 350Z. How many of us will buy our cars?

takahashi

Try to import a RX-8 5 speed low power to Australia. DMRH.

Guess how much ending costing you, then?

It is not a model in Australia so there is no conflict of interest so to speak but it will be a private import. So?

takahashi

Oh guess what, just to the original title of the thread.
\
B spec MazdaSpeed has comeout and I think, if I am correct, there is a conversion kit for Twin oil cooler. I wonder if we have twin MazdaSpeed oil cooler if we wanted to!

rotarenvy

I agree with takahashi it's probably just tax,cost cutting and a healthy profit that makes the rx-8 cost what it dose.

everyone has probably heard the story of how mazda got burnt with the rx-7. it's high kit level and conversion from jap yen ended up pricing them too high to sell good numbers.

I can see this in the rx8 since you have to pay so much for any little extra, they have one oil cooler, they don't have some of the options like sat nav and sunroofs, only one power seat etc.

that brings me to one of my WTF's. why have the power seat on the drivers side? it's useless! I sit with the seat right back and never move it, but when my girlfrend gets in she needs it all the way forward and it takes her half an hour to get it there with the motor. the seat needs a memory.

I was looking at the mazdaspeed stuff I just whish they had an english site hard to find out whats included with their kits.

fatmarco

I couldn't agree more about the power seats,
it is really annoying. There is no point having power
seats if you don't have memory, it is just a ****. I
would rather it be manual as it prob would be more
reliable and weigh less.
Another thing i have noticed is that the engine and
transmission puts through alot of heat into the driver
side footwell, kinda like an old alfa i used to have. It
only really does it in traffic though, as once you get
some speed up it cools right off. Which leads me to
conclude perhaps that the twin oil coolers might be
spec'd overseas because of traffic congestion rather
high ambient temperatures. If there is little movement
of the car then you would overheat more easily???
Just my theory.
Fatmarco

takahashi

I will for sure looking into the MazdaSpeed front spoiler, radiator and twin oil cooler

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

I think that heat you are referring to is radiant heat from the exhaust, as it goes right past your left foot at that point. That is what the "lump" in the floor is - right about where the cat is.

Cheers,
Hymee.

rotarenvy

sounds like it's is a good reason to me. if you don't have the same air flow from moving you would need more cooler area to compensate.