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Old 11-17-2004, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
it is a shame realy the insurance companies would probably pay out less if you did controled sprints at the track But their policies encourage you to do spirited driving on the public roads.

I'd like to do more sprint days but 8 or 9 cars on the track at once the risk factor is too high. I'd prefer them to do 2-3 cars for 5 laps on 5 laps off.
shannons insurance actually do want you to participate in motorsport events such as track days and circuit racing etc.
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Originally Posted by EZZY
shannons insurance actually do want you to participate in motorsport events such as track days and circuit racing etc.
Really

Some people do understand the importance of learning car control!

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I'd like to do more sprint days but 8 or 9 cars on the track at once the risk factor is too high. I'd prefer them to do 2-3 cars for 5 laps on 5 laps off.
You can find one that have this format and allows me to run 50-60 laps a day... please let me know. (Think again : If we have 5 laps on and 5 laps off for 2-3 cars =? a 6 car track day? ie. = a $1200/head track day? ok thx :p )

I love Event ONeill as it is well organised and well controlled even though it is an open format. There are times on the track there were only 3 cars running dispite there were 35 cars there. At about 4pm, I had the track to myself! :p I know if it gets as big as Burrow drive day then there will be less fun. Luke said he will run more track days rather than having more people in one.

Good thing is we are all good friends now. My friend's GTR got stuck in the kitty litter at the first turn of Sandown and I am sure in a normal club day people will just leave and go home. But NOT US - about 20 people, digged and pushed the car for many times before a tractor was organised to rescue the Gorzilla. :p
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You can find one that have this format and allows me to run 50-60 laps a day... please let me know. (Think again : If we have 5 laps on and 5 laps off for 2-3 cars =? a 6 car track day? ie. = a $1200/head track day? ok thx :p )
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why dose it have to cost that much? you don't need to limit it to 6 cars and in a day 50 laps wouldn't be impossible. I don't know about you but it is quite exhausting driving at or over your skill level so after 10-12 laps I was getting bored and pitted or started to fool around with the cars handling.

if you group and stager the cars properly you would have a better experiance IMO. on the mazda day we had 5 cars on the same corner two slow ones in the lead one following waiting patiently to go by and 2 heros in the rear overtaking under brakes like it was a race.

if it was well spaced and controled there should be clear track 90% of the time so you 'can' tell if you are doing better, you 'don't' have to slow down for cars in front and you don't have to worry about some risky overtaking manuver from the guy behind.
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Glad to see you are having fun, Taka et. al.

And also the little things you are experimenting with to help with the lap times.

I went from the 225/45x18 RE040 to Yoko 245/40x18 and it didn't bring my lap times down. But I think the tyres were a bit green, and I didn't have the pressures right. I feel it really does have more grip.

The RX-8 requires finess through the corners so you don't wash off speed unnecessarily. Ric Shaw was a very good demonstrator of this skill. I guess it was also more important at Wakefield than at QR.

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Well you want to run 2-3 car in a lap for 5 laps on and 5 laps off... that means 3x2 sets of car = 6. :p Hiring out a track day is about $5000 with track fee, CAMS license and instructors etc etc... that is what Mazda needs to pay for our RX-8 drive day.

In a better track day, you need to let people pass even they are gaining on you, and let him through in the straight and then follow him. That is the main rule of the day. AND NEVER pass in a corner - that is where accident occurs. No one yesterday torrelarate this kind of behaviour and the offender will be sin binned in our track day for sure. Mazda day in Victoria is not well organized in the track part of the day - no instruction of the track, no teaching for the new comers on racng lines, gear choice, etc. The main attitude in a track day is tolerance, have fun and pay respect for another people on the track.

Atridge, ypmwat and Nismo350Z did the best on that. He even let me though! :D What do you think of the quality of the people there?

We do 7 laps in a set (one warm up and one cool down) - go in the track as you like - but when too many people on the track, some guys volunteer to sit out in the pit lane. I did 3 sets in the morning and 4 sets in the afternoon. That is 50 laps... I think I get about 35+ clear laps with either a much faster car in front (like a Porsche or the 360 Modena) or no cars at all.

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The RX-8 requires finess through the corners so you don't wash off speed unnecessarily. Ric Shaw was a very good demonstrator of this skill. I guess it was also more important at Wakefield than at QR.
I love racing drivers to drive my car with me in the passenger seat... I learnt SOOOO much - then you go behind the wheels for a few laps with them in the passenger seat. They will probably shitting their pants when I was driving :p but at least they will point out what you can do to improve your time :D

If I had such opportunity I will have Ric in my car.... but I doubt I would like Greg Murphy in mine though hehe :p

So I think track day is no good if there is not such a pro to teach you.

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Originally Posted by takahashi
Well you want to run 2-3 car in a lap for 5 laps on and 5 laps off... that means 3x2 sets of car = 6. :p Hiring out a track day is about $5000 with track fee, CAMS license and instructors etc etc... that is what Mazda needs to pay for our RX-8 drive day.

In a better track day, you need to let people pass even they are gaining on you, and let him through in the straight and then follow him. That is the main rule of the day. AND NEVER pass in a corner - that is where accident occurs. No one yesterday torrelarate this kind of behaviour and the offender will be sin binned in our track day for sure. Mazda day in Victoria is not well organized in the track part of the day - no instruction of the track, no teaching for the new comers on racng lines, gear choice, etc. The main attitude in a track day is tolerance, have fun and pay respect for another people on the track.

Atridge, ypmwat and Nismo350Z did the best on that. He even let me though! :D What do you think guys of the people there guys?

We do 7 laps in a set (one warm up and one cool down) - go in the track as you like - but when too many people on the track, some guys volunteer to sit out in the pit lane. I did 3 sets in the morning and 4 sets in the afternoon. That is 50 laps... I think I get about 35+ clear laps with either a much faster car in front (like a Porsche or the 360 Modena) or no cars at all.
5 on 5 off was an example taka.

your sprint day sounds just like I was describing! 5 laps compaired to your 7 wow taka a whole 2 laps .
and it also sounds like your mazda organised day was like the one I attended. buy anyway it sounds like some of these events are controled to some degree I might have to try another.
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Originally Posted by takahashi

Atridge, ypmwat and Nismo350Z did the best on that. He even let me though! :D What do you think of the quality of the people there?

Event O'Neill is very well organised and everyone was fair. If there is a slower car in front nobody tried to pass aggressively, mostly I felt that I had clear track and I really only noticed other cars on the straights.
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Taka do you know where i can get the Piccies from the track day?
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