Revolver

A final comment and then I'll shut up.

I appreciate I've expressed some views that are less than popular on a forum for enthusiasts of performance cars that like to drive them hard.

I'm also hardly an angel and like most of us regularly indulge in some "fun".

However, it gives me the ***** when I hear of yet another instance where for reasons of expedition the law is not applied correctly. It seems that if there's money in it - they're all over you and yet when they have an opportunity to successfully deter some clown from killing himself or others it's too much hassle.

Rant Over.

Revolver

There's no doubt the old Chamcellor's foot has got a lot to answer for!

azzaboynt

my 2 cents.

He got his punishment. whatever the punishment is. However if he does drive whilst suspended, and speeds at the same time, then it's gaol time for him.

Just a thought, is the law a guide, or a deterant, or a framework for justice?

timbo

The law is the law! Penalties for breaches of the law may have a range of intentions....and consequences. Justice is another thing altogether. Sometimes the law and justice coincide, but this should never be assumed. And, of course, sometime the law is an ***.

All this reminds me of the other famous speeding case from last year

Silly ***** in Bentley GT

Wonder if this guy did his porridge? (suspect not)

I'm sure there's a good Shakespearian quotation to tie the two together...covering youth versus arrogance...law and justice....

timbo

To answer my own question:


Gaol sentence overturned

The chauffeur drives the Bentley now

Revolver

If you can answer that question, go write a jurisprudence textbook.

Regrettably, human nature makes regulating human behaviour complex.

Indeed, human nature is my best stock in trade.

Revolver

what a shock!

RXP33D

Revolver, I'm sure you had no intentions of offending me whatsoever.

I saw your point but there was too much generalising and stereotyping. I'm not a good driver, and I don't hide it from this forum or the AUS forum.

But just imagine that post on say, a nissansilvia.com forum for eg., I think your more than likely going to stir a dozen or so pages of n0t-happy-jan posts.

AMG

he's appealing

Revolver

Okay - I'll admit to a bit of that but you still can't ignore the fact that p-platers are most at risk given the stats.



I'm sure I would but that would just prove one of the points I made - that male drivers of a certain age (NOT all of them ) have a tendency to believe they know best and will not only ignore but attack any attempt to curb their worst excesses on the road. Freedom is a privilege of youth. As you get older you realise you have more to live for.

rotarenvy

timbo you need to check the figures!

I just had a look some stats. Driving fatalities number in the hundreds each year and dropping (all deaths car, bike, pedestrians etc). Smoking was attributed to 15% of all deaths in 1992! that's in the 18 thousands!

then not all the car deaths are due to speed and then again P-platers are only around 27% of deaths each year.

I think in this light that my comparison is more than fair.

timbo

Oh, if you smoke, chances are your life will be shortened as a direct result, no question. But I was referring more to the impact of passive smoking, which -- while still dangerous -- is a much more manageable risk than getting in a car as a passenger with an inexperience p plater

LittleJohn

I can see where you're going with this Rev,
But you should know as well as I do, that section of the M2 can quite easily support most vehicals travelling at that speed. As for others drivers on the road, the M2 is virtually dead that time of night.
I think the article, raises some very valid points, it does leave out a lot of detail though. IMO, if these do-gooders are serious about reducing road fatalities, they should be more vocal about the quality of our roads.
Currently the ONLY decent stretch of road in NSW is the new M7.. and maybe the M5, but all others are absolutely crap.. especially compared to Vic Roads.
With the current state of the M2 at the toll booths, I'd be willing to bet that there would be more accidents there, where traffic is flowing at 40-60km/hr then at Cheltham at 175km/h.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condone excessive speeding. But the word "speeding" itself is open to interpretation.

Revolver

Agree 100% with everything you say there LJ.

Indeed, I've written to a number of local members at local, state and federal levels of govt over the years complaining about the state of various roads.

Maybe if we all did the same they'd realise there's some votes in it.