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A final comment and then I'll shut up.
I appreciate I've expressed some views that are less than popular on a forum for enthusiasts of performance cars that like to drive them hard.
I'm also hardly an angel and like most of us regularly indulge in some "fun".
However, it gives me the ***** when I hear of yet another instance where for reasons of expedition the law is not applied correctly. It seems that if there's money in it - they're all over you and yet when they have an opportunity to successfully deter some clown from killing himself or others it's too much hassle.
Rant Over.
I appreciate I've expressed some views that are less than popular on a forum for enthusiasts of performance cars that like to drive them hard.
I'm also hardly an angel and like most of us regularly indulge in some "fun".
However, it gives me the ***** when I hear of yet another instance where for reasons of expedition the law is not applied correctly. It seems that if there's money in it - they're all over you and yet when they have an opportunity to successfully deter some clown from killing himself or others it's too much hassle.
Rant Over.
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my 2 cents.
He got his punishment. whatever the punishment is. However if he does drive whilst suspended, and speeds at the same time, then it's gaol time for him.
Just a thought, is the law a guide, or a deterant, or a framework for justice?
He got his punishment. whatever the punishment is. However if he does drive whilst suspended, and speeds at the same time, then it's gaol time for him.
Just a thought, is the law a guide, or a deterant, or a framework for justice?
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The law is the law! Penalties for breaches of the law may have a range of intentions....and consequences. Justice is another thing altogether. Sometimes the law and justice coincide, but this should never be assumed. And, of course, sometime the law is an ***.
All this reminds me of the other famous speeding case from last year
Silly ***** in Bentley GT
Wonder if this guy did his porridge? (suspect not)
I'm sure there's a good Shakespearian quotation to tie the two together...covering youth versus arrogance...law and justice....
All this reminds me of the other famous speeding case from last year
Silly ***** in Bentley GT
Wonder if this guy did his porridge? (suspect not)
I'm sure there's a good Shakespearian quotation to tie the two together...covering youth versus arrogance...law and justice....
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To answer my own question:
Gaol sentence overturned
The chauffeur drives the Bentley now
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Wonder if this guy did his porridge? (suspect not)
Gaol sentence overturned
The chauffeur drives the Bentley now
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Originally Posted by azzaboynt
Just a thought, is the law a guide, or a deterant, or a framework for justice?
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Regrettably, human nature makes regulating human behaviour complex.
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Originally Posted by timbo
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Revolver, I'm sure you had no intentions of offending me whatsoever.
I saw your point but there was too much generalising and stereotyping. I'm not a good driver, and I don't hide it from this forum or the AUS forum.
But just imagine that post on say, a nissansilvia.com forum for eg., I think your more than likely going to stir a dozen or so pages of n0t-happy-jan posts.
I saw your point but there was too much generalising and stereotyping. I'm not a good driver, and I don't hide it from this forum or the AUS forum.
But just imagine that post on say, a nissansilvia.com forum for eg., I think your more than likely going to stir a dozen or so pages of n0t-happy-jan posts.
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Originally Posted by RXP33D
I saw your point but there was too much generalising and stereotyping.
Originally Posted by RXP33D
But just imagine that post on say, a nissansilvia.com forum for eg., I think your more than likely going to stir a dozen or so pages of n0t-happy-jan posts.
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While I understand the point you are making, the comparison doesn't work. There's a much greater risk -- especially with a p plate driver -- that any miscalculation will result in injury and/or death. The statistics prove this overwhelmingly more strongly than in the case of smokers ![Frown](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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I just had a look some stats. Driving fatalities number in the hundreds each year and dropping (all deaths car, bike, pedestrians etc). Smoking was attributed to 15% of all deaths in 1992! that's in the 18 thousands!
then not all the car deaths are due to speed and then again P-platers are only around 27% of deaths each year.
I think in this light that my comparison is more than fair.
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Oh, if you smoke, chances are your life will be shortened as a direct result, no question. But I was referring more to the impact of passive smoking, which -- while still dangerous -- is a much more manageable risk than getting in a car as a passenger with an inexperience p plater
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I can see where you're going with this Rev,
But you should know as well as I do, that section of the M2 can quite easily support most vehicals travelling at that speed. As for others drivers on the road, the M2 is virtually dead that time of night.
I think the article, raises some very valid points, it does leave out a lot of detail though. IMO, if these do-gooders are serious about reducing road fatalities, they should be more vocal about the quality of our roads.
Currently the ONLY decent stretch of road in NSW is the new M7.. and maybe the M5, but all others are absolutely crap.. especially compared to Vic Roads.
With the current state of the M2 at the toll booths, I'd be willing to bet that there would be more accidents there, where traffic is flowing at 40-60km/hr then at Cheltham at 175km/h.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condone excessive speeding. But the word "speeding" itself is open to interpretation.
But you should know as well as I do, that section of the M2 can quite easily support most vehicals travelling at that speed. As for others drivers on the road, the M2 is virtually dead that time of night.
I think the article, raises some very valid points, it does leave out a lot of detail though. IMO, if these do-gooders are serious about reducing road fatalities, they should be more vocal about the quality of our roads.
Currently the ONLY decent stretch of road in NSW is the new M7.. and maybe the M5, but all others are absolutely crap.. especially compared to Vic Roads.
With the current state of the M2 at the toll booths, I'd be willing to bet that there would be more accidents there, where traffic is flowing at 40-60km/hr then at Cheltham at 175km/h.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condone excessive speeding. But the word "speeding" itself is open to interpretation.
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Originally Posted by LittleJohn
I can see where you're going with this Rev,
But you should know as well as I do, that section of the M2 can quite easily support most vehicals travelling at that speed. As for others drivers on the road, the M2 is virtually dead that time of night.
I think the article, raises some very valid points, it does leave out a lot of detail though. IMO, if these do-gooders are serious about reducing road fatalities, they should be more vocal about the quality of our roads.
Currently the ONLY decent stretch of road in NSW is the new M7.. and maybe the M5, but all others are absolutely crap.. especially compared to Vic Roads.
With the current state of the M2 at the toll booths, I'd be willing to bet that there would be more accidents there, where traffic is flowing at 40-60km/hr then at Cheltham at 175km/h.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condone excessive speeding. But the word "speeding" itself is open to interpretation.
But you should know as well as I do, that section of the M2 can quite easily support most vehicals travelling at that speed. As for others drivers on the road, the M2 is virtually dead that time of night.
I think the article, raises some very valid points, it does leave out a lot of detail though. IMO, if these do-gooders are serious about reducing road fatalities, they should be more vocal about the quality of our roads.
Currently the ONLY decent stretch of road in NSW is the new M7.. and maybe the M5, but all others are absolutely crap.. especially compared to Vic Roads.
With the current state of the M2 at the toll booths, I'd be willing to bet that there would be more accidents there, where traffic is flowing at 40-60km/hr then at Cheltham at 175km/h.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condone excessive speeding. But the word "speeding" itself is open to interpretation.
Indeed, I've written to a number of local members at local, state and federal levels of govt over the years complaining about the state of various roads.
Maybe if we all did the same they'd realise there's some votes in it.
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