Lock & Load

Iwas told that mazda was sending a special mazda rx8 oil from japan well were the F@@@K is it according to mazda america synthetic oil should NOT be used in the RX8 because it does not fully burn off in the combustion chamber .Recks your seals.

I noticed my mazda dealer uses penrith mixture of synthetic and non synthetic oil.

Does that mean i am partly right .

Why sell a car and not have the proper oil available for its proper use .

MAZDA AUSTRALIA how about getting off your asses and getting us the right oil.. as promised .
michael

dbb

You can get Pennzoil 5w-30 purebase mineral oil
from Repco. 5 litres about $30. This completely complies
with Mazda's recommendations.

Lock & Load

Thanks ddb however i just had my 10,000km service so i will have to wait till the next time .

michael

sco

Good tip dbb. Just topped mine up for the second time. Put .5 L in at 2000km and just put another .5L in at about 3500.

Looks like redlining does affect usage :D

pepe

Why don't you go ask Mazda instead.

Kev

What he said :D

pricer01

My Mazda contacts say that they only have BULK oil at this stage, not retail packs.

Was told to check back late november

Rob

Kas

Penrite HPR-40

Its simply the best.

Mitch Strickler

In the U.S., the manual says 5-20 for all temperatures. There is no recommendation of type in the manual, but other sources say to stay away from synthetic. At least some dealers I've heard about are using Castrol, a well regarded brand here. So am I.
The light weight is supposed to help mileage. I hate to think of even worse mileage than I've been getting on a reasonably driven standard engine automatic -- as low as 14.5 mpg (U.S.) in 80% city driving, only about 22 all on the road.

Maestro

I've posted this before somewhere but I'll post it again.

The correct oil to use is the Mazda 5W-30 MINERAL Oil.

It is the only oil formulated for Rotary Turbo and N/A Engines.

Don't use anything else !!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want the part numbers I'll get them. If they say they can't get them in retail packs its bullshit as lil old NZ has them in both 2l and 4l packs.

And if any Kiwi's are on here. If they are not using the 5W-30 get your cars serviced here we use it on all RE's

Bring it to North Harbour Mazda we have drums of the stuff :D

Hoep this helps :D

Lock & Load

Spoke to mazda yesterday and they told me that its coming , heck they have been saying that for ages i think mazda has apolicy of feeding the customer plenty of B/S if new zealand has the right oil why dont we .

Recently i spoke to a leading car journo who is currently looking into the RX8 regarding :

POWER ISSUES CAR NOT PRODUCING CORRECT POWER .
GAS MILEAGE ISSUES .
Engine failure issues in australia and overseas .
MAZDA not using right oil in servicing the rx8s
Mazda keeping owners in the dark and generrally feeding them B/S
OIL WARNING LIGH ISSUES .
Only 1 oil cooler issues
Car condenser and oil cooler not being adequately protected .
Hymees grill .

Lock & Load

Maestro

Could you get the mazda oil part numbers i will e-mail them personally to head honcho MALCOLM GOUGH ,and try to get a

straight answer.
If i have forgotten any other issues with mazda feel free to let me know , dont get me wrong i love the rx8 but i want honest answer to the rx8 issues and not BULLSHIT.

Maestro

I'll give you the part numbers

Don't get me in trouble though

I really enjoy working for Mazda :D

AMG

L & L, keep us informed on what and where the journo is writing

pepe

Perhaps less BS on the forum will result.

labrat

Gee, L&L, I admire your ability to get the best out of people! Talking to a journo in the hope that a bit of bad press might stir Mazda into action! That's what I call diplomacy in action. I'm sure they'll jump through hoops after that!

Lock & Load

labrat

Diplomacy was always the prefered option , but to be diplomatic both sides have to play ball so far mazda has overlooked this forum and continued in their merry way of deception , maybe if some true facts are published in the paper they will sit up and listen for a change .

dbb

One thing I don't want is the Media to pick up on the "RX8 is a lemon" bandwagon.

It's not. It's a great car and I get joy every time I drive it.

It is also a business car and I want the car to have decent resale when the lease expires (so I can get a new RX8 or an RX7 etc...).

If the media (which has been great so far, especially Wheels) dumps on the car, then I guess the resale will not be so good, and I will be several thousand out of pocket ...

Kev

I don't think car manufacturers ignore things like web based forums, I think they could potentially be scared of them (possibly being a huge faceless angry mob).

Imagine there was a fan site for you as an individual and there was a bunch of people on it saying you did strange things with animals...

Bad example? I'm not sure. But I've always got a good response to questions direct to Mazda as an individual.

msydd

L&L, I agree with dbb... this is a great car, and I'd hate to see a lot of "lemon" press, when it simply isn't true!

Wildcard

I agree with the above, however I think Mazda has a lot to answer for and maybe this is the sort of pressure that is required for them to pull their collective fingers out....

labrat

I'm sure that Mazda does look at this forum. It doesn't mean they say "how high" when we say jump. I'm also not so sure they have a lot to answer for. Being in the manufacturing business in a miniscule way, I know that you have to be very careful about how you handle complaints and how you react to criticism.

I think the power issue has been dealt with satisfactorily by Mazda. They are probably leaving the cooler protection to the after market for this model, and will pick it up in the "freshen up model". All the other things are quite minor.

Because the Internet is what it is, a forum for everyone which has a tendency to attract more than its fair share of interesting personalities, I think that Mazda looks at the goings on here with a certain degree of circumspection.

Can I suggest some politely written letters written with a regard to good grammar and spelling and setting out clearly what may be held to be common concerns, might have a better chance of making an impact?

I'm going now to enjoy the drive home in my 8......

timbo

Well, I just hope that journalist works on FACTS and not on rumour and innuendo. I have not seen many INDIVIDUAL forum members come forward with major problems. And, where they have come forward, Mazda has responded to them -- VERY well, better than most other mfrs.

Mazda has acknowledged the power issues.

The gas mileage claim is as accurate as any other mfr, as far as I can detect (certainly, my av fuel economy is BELOW the brochure claim)

Those engines that have failed have been dealt with very fairly, from what I read (and most generously, in Kas's case.

The oil light warning issue has been handled well -- it is a oil level sender issue, not an actual dangerous condition, and Mazda have responded to that, and rectified it in later builds.

The oil issue has been done to death. I have seen the Mazda bulleting that specifies a range of oils that can be used including Mobil1 0-40w, as used by my dealer. If that's what the dealer puts in (even if too much ) then that is what the 3yr unlimited k warranty will work on -- it is MAZDA's risk, at least in my case, cos I drive at leats 1,000k/wk)

One oil cooler vs two, may be an issue but we would need evidence that oil temps are a problem here. IME, two coolers increases risks of oil leakage (that was in my old Datto 1600 rally car)

No protection for the condensor and oil cooler was definitely an oversight, but am not sure Mazda is on its own there!

Overall, my initial experience with my 8 has been fantastic. I love driving it. I love looking at it.

Apart from some minor irritations, I see absolutely no reason for anyone to bag it to press, which may have the effect of reducing my car's resale value.

It is a great car, a great drive, and deserves to be Wheels COTY

Timbo

Lock & Load

Some of the forum members are jumping to conclusions no one mentioned lemon and rx8 in the same breath , i have simply told this particular journalist that YES the rx8 is a great car but it has had a few issues and told him that he should research these for themselves and not only rely on mazda for all their information .

The person concerned has been given the forum address and will be making his own extensive investigation into the rx8 warts and all .

I love my car just as much as any other forum member , however i am not blind i see the good with the not so good , some of the forum members are more concerned with the reputation of the rx8 and the resale value of the car , and refuse to admitt that the rx8 is great however not perfect .

michael

aussie8

Whilst I have read and understand the problems that have been experienced by the readers and users of this forum, there seems to be a remarkably antagonistic view of their dealer when it comes to after sales service. Of course there are issues on both sides of the fence but the only serious problem seems to have been resolved satisfactorily (ie. KAS and Mazda). I speak only from the perspective of a prosective owner who is anxiously awaiting delivery and who has faith in the supplier and quality of the product. ie people are exceeding 20K on this car, maybe i'm naive but i'm happy to trust in manufacturers recommendations, they know more about the car than i do and i'll stand by their reputation. At least until I know better!