Kev

I want to go on record as saying this very loud...

I have no issues with my car.

I've never had any issues with my car.

My dealings with Mazda Australia have benn satisfactory.

My dealings with Brookvale Mazda sales were excellent.

My dealings with Brookvale Mazda service are excellent - from first contact and ongoing.

I am 100% happy and satisfied with my car.

Yes, I'd like more power - HEAPS MORE POWER!!! Someday I'll address that. I intended to do it anyway.

Yes, I'd love one of Hymee's grill kits.

My car is RED and I wake up relieved to know this everytime I have a nightmare about evil fiends spraying my car yellow in the dark of the night


PS I'm not trying to fuel an arguement, these are my feelings and I love the car!

Hymee

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WRT the original topic...

I let Mazda service put the "appropriate" oil in. If I have issues, then problem belong them.

I don't know why synthetic oil is worst than mineral oil for burning. Synthetic oil is the same molecular structure of carbon and hydrogen atoms, it just gets made in a factory, rather than coming out of the ground. Hydrocarbons burn don't they?

Thanks Kev - I'll put you down for a grill

Cheers,
Hymee.

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Hymee

The thread in america they definetely say NOT to use syntethic oil , AND AS U WOULD HAVE READ THE MAZDA OIL IS AVAILABLE IN NEW ZEALAND , So i am still in the dark , having an each way bet i am using semi synthetic and minerol oil .

dbb

/* this could all be wrong */

My understanding of synthetic vs mineral is this :

When Ze Germans were first trying to make synthetic oils
early last century, they tried to duplicate mineral oils exactly. And this is still possible. As Hymee said, it is essentially the same stuff.

However, Mineral oils tend to have impurities. Things which are hard to crack, such as parrifins and other waxes. These waxes lower the shear strength of the oil, meaning they will break down easier. Oil companies add long chain polymers to mineral oils to boost the shear strength - whereas they tend not to do this with the much purer synthetic oils. Even this additional additive tends not to work as well as synthetics, however, such that mineral oils tend not to last as long as servicable oils.

Here is where the Mazda bit kicks in :

Synthetics don't break down as easily, they burn at higher temperatures. They work better. The Rotary must burn oil to lubricate the the seals. If the oil doesn't burn, then deposits can build up. This can lead to plug fouling.

Also, long term exposure of the seals to oil can cause them to swell, causing engine failure. This is far less likely to happen to Mineral oils, because the Mineral oils burn off quicker.

Now, I spoken to Rotary Heaven here in Adelaide, and they recommend Synthetic oils for their cars. Race cars. They don't recommend them for Street cars. Their reasoning is that they strip down their engines and replace the seals frequently - elimintating the buildup.

timbo

... and to continue, as I understand it also (there is no 'the thread' on this issue -- there are many ), the Renesis seals are different to previous rotary seals and hence synthetic oil is regarded as acceptable -- hence my dealer using Mobil1.

As Hymee says, I will use what they put in and then it is their problem.

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dbb

Thanks for your input , i may be coming to adelaide around the end of february , but first i have to go to melbourne for my nephews wedding , his father in law has the AUDI , BENTLEY AND ASTONMARTIN DEALERSHIP , handy contact as my next ride is going to be the new Aston Martin Vantage v8, this car is going to compete with the 911 carrera at around the same price .

However i intend to keep the rx8 as a daily driver .

I have already reserved the numberplates AMVO8.

Kev

Do you mean the new DB9? I don't think Aston Martin would make one in yellow

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KEV

Aston martin is making 2 models 1 being the larger more expensive DB9 , and the shorter aston martin vantage v8 which should sell for the same price as the porsche at around $ 240,000

The car has been featured in lots of magazines and looks great , they are using a lot of new technology on this car .

Since i will be keeping the rx8 i will be getting some other colour , most likely silver , it looks great in the photoes .

MICHAEL

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KEV

SITE on AMV8

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/...rtid=9470&pg=2

In some angles its got a bit of the rx8 in it .

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KEV

Here are the specs for the AMV8 VANQUISH

Specifications:

Price (est MSRP): $170,000
Body Type: 2-door coupe
Layout: front engine, RWD
Engine (est): 400 hp, 400 lb-ft, 4.3-L, 32-valve, DOHC V8
Transmission (est): 6-spd man (opt 5-spd auto)
Performance (est 0 - 100 km/h): 4.8 seconds
Performance (est top-speed): 298 km/h (185 mph)
Brakes (front/rear): disc/disc, ABS
Curb Weight: 1,500 kg (3,307 lb)
Length: 4,347 mm (171.1 in)
Width: 1,874 mm (73.8 in)
Height: 1,298 mm (51.1 in)
Wheelbase: 2,600 mm (102.4 in)
Direct Competitors: Ferrari 360 Modena, Lamborghini Gallardo, Maserati 4200 GT, Mercedes-Benz SL55, Porsche 911 Turbo
Web Site: www.astonmartin.ca

Kev

Oh, a Vanquish. My absolute favourite. (The only car in the world I'd consider in green with tan leather!)

Price though ... $170,000, I thought it'd be more like $550,000 plus in Oz.

For $170,000 I'd even have it if it was yellow

You know, I've always wanted a DB4, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it to the car (living too close to the ocean - watching a bond mobile rust would break my heart!)

Maestro

Here is the oil

It doesn't look like much. But if you read the back it will say how its specially formulated for the rotary engine.

Mazda 5W-30 SJ Motor Oil
K200W0528M 200 Litre Drum
K200W0528M4 4 Litre pack (order in multiples of 4)
K200W0528M2 2 Litre pack (order in multiples of 8)

Also regaurding the oil cooler cover.

My question would be why do you need one ????

I've had 3 RX-7's

2 with twin oil coolers (eg. FD RX-7) front mounted like the RX-8 and I have never ever had any problems with the oil coolers.

Also our RX-8's have nothing wrong with them at work and they are driven daily.

My suggestion is if works fine leave it.

The flys you hit won't hurt the oil cooler.

I remeber my RX-7 has 143,000km on the clock now.

So my thoughts................. Don't worry about the cooler.

Hot this helps the oil debarkele

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Maestro

Thanks for the info on the oils .

So as they say oils aint just oils hmmmmm.

michael

Maestro

LOL

Shhheeeeezzz

My spelling skills got really bad on the end of the last post !!!

Call it my Kiwi accent !!!

LOL :P

timbo

Careful Maestro -- don't start us :D

Maestro

I can handle you Aussie ' BAAAAAAA-Stards !'

LOL

takahashi

Hey there are some RX-8 specified oil in Japan - I am going to hunt that down. I saw it in the Option Japan Magazine coverage of the RX8 meet in Japan during Sept

Hymee

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Meastro,

I heard you can handle sheep better than us bastards. :p And sheep will push back at the top of the cliff...

Seriously - what were you asking about the "oil cooler cover"? If a rock lunched my A/C condensor (and at least 1 others I know of), then chances are fair that a rock could do the same to the oil cooler. Or did I miss your point?

Cheers,
Hymee.

AMG

Q - How do kiwis find sheep in long grasses?



A - Very Satisfying

Dez

* red oil can is back *

Little blue car is just hemoraging oil and gas.

There should be a 5,000 check up I think * grin *

++dez;