canzoomer

One thing i would like to figure out is just how big the gas tank REALLY is.

Twice now i have run it down until the light came on, and one of those times i drove about 39km on the light.
In both cases I managed to pump about 52 liters in.
Considering my manual says it is a 60 liter tank, that is a BIG reserve.

OTOH, the last 1/4 tankful on the guauge seems to drop off REAL FAST.

f1michel

I managed to put 54 L in after i ran about 40-50 km past the light on. I hope it's a 60L tank 'cause i plan on taking it deeper in the empty zone next time.

Wing

That makes sense, right 100Km on the light. Makes sense

f1michel

i'd say it makes sense... :-)

Wing

11 posts up .... 12 now I suppose is my 11.7L/100Km explaination.

I now have another 40Km on the tank and it moved 1 dash. I'm headed to east of Montreal tomorrow for a wedding that should take the entire tank to get there. So I'll post those results Sunday.

Quick_lude

Why? That's close enough imo plus whatever gas you have left down there is more concentrated with dirt particles.

f1michel

I don't want to make an habit of it but i like to know where the limits are if i ever need to strtch it a bit.

Quick_lude

Based on 54L and 40-60km after the light I would extrapolate that to 100km max.

f1michel

i'm figuring 100 MAX so 80 could be achievable on HW driving.

f1michel

Just filled of 'cause it was 78.9 at the Shell close to my place and the Petrocan was 85.9.

Put in 38.8 L for 339Kms

11.45 l per 100k

20.6 mpg US

24.64 mpg Imperial

about 70% HW and the 1st 150 K were at quite high RPM.

I can live with kind of comsumption.

I have a GS 6M

Wing

Ok here's my latest stats.

I filled up Thursday and then drove 50Km city driving. Then I went to Cornwall and filled up (2 people in car).

17.676L for 171.2Km = 10.26 L / 100Km!!!

Ok then I went to Montreal with 4 adults in the car, this was exclusively highway, BUT I got stuck in a traffic jam off champlain bridge for 30 minutes (WTF was with that, not sure because when it cleared there was NOTHING that should have stopped us).

I made it to philipsburg (hour out of montreal) then drove around with the wedding party, then another short jaunt (city) then back to cornwall and on to Ottawa.

My empty light came on BEFORE Vars! I live in Kanata I'm going to run out!

Made it home and made it to the station this morning.

Filled up with 57.59L! phew that was a close one.

Total Km driven = 527 on the nose. That's 10.9L / 100Km!

I'm thinking that isn't so great, but then there was 4 adults in the car and I did get stuck in that traffic jam! And I idled for awhile in the wedding parade.

So not bad!

That's 21.5 Miles per gallon. I don't think it gets much better than that.

Oh I hit redline once with all 4 people, the car definetely doesn't feel as fast with 4 people in it. And it didn't really kick.

Oh and this was 89 octane, I've been running with it, with NO problems. And the sputering on start-up is GONE!

Quick_lude

Those numbers are starting to look "normal".. I wonder if the fuel economy will improve as the engines get more km's on them. It looks like it so far.

Wing

Oh forgot to mention I made 67Km on the empty, the needle goes WAY past the E Don't try to go more than that, this was ALL highway and it was CLOSE!

f1michel

I think those numbers you posted plus my numbers show you can do quite a bit with car if you don't rive it hard. Drive it at 7k all the time and it's VERY VERY thirsty. If i can average 12 per 100k i'll be happy and live with it. Of course it's 30% less than with my 1.8 T Passat and it's 150 hp but i love my 8 so...

Quick_lude

That's the only "drawback" to this engine right now imo.. If you drive it like it's meant to be driven, zoom zoom :D you get hit with terrible fuel economy. Could someone with rotary knowledge quickly explain to the noob here why exactly the rotary is so thirsty at higher revs?

Wing

fimichel, I had 4 people in the car, so yes, seems very good. 2 people or 1 would be much better.

canzoomer

It is a good idea to run it right dry once in a while, especially if you live where it freezes!

Gas is lighter than water.
If you leave some in the bottom all the time, you will accumulate some condensed water over a while.
Then when you DO run into that part, and it is freezing, bad things will happen.

Of course you can use the odd tank of gas/alcohol mix ( "gasahol", usually 10% mix) and it will absorb the water harmlessly.

canzoomer

Easily.
I went on a fairly lenghty highway run to Fort MacMurray and back this weekend. About 860km
On the way back I drove until the light came on, then immedediately filled up.
It took 44 liters.
As I am averaging aroud 14.5l/100km at fast highway speeds, that works out to about 110km of highway driving.

Wing

See my previous posts, I wouldn't count on making it 100Km, I was cruising on the highway at 103Km/h and only made it 67Km with 2.5 liters left. That's cutting damn close!

canzoomer

Now at 2700km, so this is my update:
Here are my results (kilometers and liters) after 9 fills:
km liters cost/liter style Avg. Speed l/100km
333 37.51 $0.820 City breakin 75 $0.113
306 43.08 $0.889 fast highway 140 $0.141
377 52.30 $0.839 fast highway 150 $0.139
192 26.53 $0.835 fast highway 140 $0.138
361 52.28 $0.899 Mixed 75 $0.145
73 14.00 $0.825 City 65 $0.192
352 49.60 $0.843 fast highway 155 $0.141
243 36.22 $0.854 fast highway 155 $0.149
388 55.41 $0.845 fast highway 140 $0.143

Total kilometers to date:2,625
Total liters filled: 366.9
Average consumption: 13.98 liters/100km
Cost per kilometer: $0.119 per km
Worst tankful km/100l: 19.2 (mostly city)
Best tankful: 11.3 (breakin, low revs, mostly city)
High speed highway: 13.8 to 14.9 l/100km, at speeds between 140 and 210kmh.
Average miles per US Gallon: 16.83
Best MPG: 20.88
Worst MPG: 12.26

Wing

Man you guys have cops in Edmonton or what? Average 160-210Km/h?? YIKES!

Seems like your gas is more expensive than, here that's odd.

canzoomer

I am burning premium AKA "Super", which jumped pretty badly in the last week.
I was paying in the $0.82 liter range a week or two ago, but this weekend I saw as high as 89.9 and as low as 82.5

Bear in mind that in Fort MacMurray, the prices are usually a bit higher than Edmonton, so that explains part of it.

As for the speeds, the highway to Fort Mac is decent, and was very empty this weekend. Except at each end you never see a police car. There is a stretch of around 200km with no side roads, towns, or anything..

In the case of the previous weekend we were on highways like 40 in southern Aberta in the mountains, and it too was empty and unpatrolled as the parks and roads were closed due to forest fire bans.

I also did a bunch of mileage on highway 2, which is typically 140+ all the time. The police do not touch you for anything under 145 at most times.

TT2RX8

Just a follow up....

Still get awfull results

296.8 km, 52.011L = 17.52L/100, 13.47mpg Us or 16.09mpg imp.

Mix driving. city/hway (50/50)... no A/C! Driven the same way I used to drive my Audi TT (averaged 12L/100)

Oh well...

MadJoker

Are you people using 91 or 94 octane, and does it make a difference ??

And where do you gas up? I go to Ultramar and i cant get under 15 L/100 km . Maybe different gas company would make a difference.


MAdjoker

Wing

Madjoker, my last 3 tanks have been McEwen 89 octane, at 11.5L/100Km!

Of course we'll see how this tank goes as I have been redlining every which second! LOL