Rotary Mike

Sadness, my car suddenly won't in gear after working fine this morning.

The clutch pedal is not snapped off and the fluid is full. I had a new transmission and new clutch put in less then a year ago

Jon316G

iTrader: (1)

How do you know the pedal isn't "snapped"... did you remove it?
Its sometimes difficult to see with it still mounted in the car.

xun4gvn4everx

iTrader: (2)

Need to give us a little more information. Is there grinding when you try to put it into gear, driving conditions, does the clutch feel different now than when it did go into gear, stiff clutch/soft clutch, Do you have a SS or is it the OEM shifter, etc...

Rotary Mike

I got in under the dash with a flashlight. The top bracket and bottom bracket are both still intact, the springs are still doing their job, the metal rod connecting the pedal is still attached and not bent warped, etc.

Rotary Mike

It doesn't go into gear. There is a bit of grinding when you engage the clutch, sort of like if you were to half ride the clutch normally.

It leterally worked.....then didn't. I think a hydraulic may have given out. Better then the clutch I suppose.

Jon316G

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If you're positive the pedal is OK, then it could be either the master or slave cylinder.
Also, have you tried bleeding the clutch line? Could be worth a shot to rule out air in the lines.

Rotary Mike

Not a bad idea, but I am at work in a suit, lol. The car is 8 levels underground. With a push start I can slide it into second to get out of the garage, then onto the flatbed tow truck (CAA rules, it is like AAA).

My mechanic and I will test out the air in lines tonight

Rotary Mike

Well, it is not the slave or master cylinder......something inside is the clutch or tranny is no loner working.

Please be the release bearing.

Jon316G

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The release bearing is attached to the release fork.
The slave cylinder pushes the top of the fork back while the bottom of the fork pushes the release bearing forward to the pressure plate.
So even if the bearing was bad, it would still push up against the pressure plate to release the clutch disk.

Rotary Mike

Damn. What about a bent fork?

Thumper3322

Good time for an upgrade
That sucks, sorry I don't know much about troubleshooting that issue. It wouldn't be the syncro's?

xun4gvn4everx

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If there is a syncro issue, then it would still shift into gear, but the gear would grind unless you paused a second or two before shifting into the next gear. That is how the issue starts. If you don't replace them, you will eventually grind away the gear(s) until they will no longer engage. Since his issue seems to be with the clutch and not the gear box, I don't think it would be syncros.

Rotary Mike

So it turns out the Pilot Bearing blew apart and took the clutch with it.

Jon316G

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Damn... at least the pilot bearing is probably the cheapest component to replace in your clutch/transmission system.
You're saying it damaged the clutch too? How is the flywheel?

Rotary Mike

The flywheel and tranny are ok. The input (or is it output?) shaft had a scuff in it that we were able to sand.

The clutch basically was destroy by the bearing bouncing around in there.

Footman

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If your input shaft was not sandable... damn you would need a new eccentric shaft and an engine rebuild!

Neo

How in God's name does something like that happen???? I can't believe the part would simply just "explode" and take out a number of components. Seriously, what kind of driving are you doing???? lol

I have never heard anything like that happen.

andylam85

Hi, I hope you don't mind me asking, but what were all the parts that needed to be replaced? I am experiencing a very similar issue where all of a sudden, I no longer can put it into gear when the car is on. When I turn it off, I am able to put it into gear though. With the car on, when I try to put it into gear, it's like I'm pushing against a wall and the car would seem to rock forward an inch. Won't go into any gear including reverse.

So what was the solution to your problem? Thanks!!

Rotary Mike

Yup, that was it exactly! You seem to have the same issue word for word. Once the Pilot bearing is gone, the clutch starts moving around in there and then gives up the ghost.

In my case, I need a new pilot bearing and clutch. The transmission has to be removed from the car and the input shaft had to sanded down.

I would imagine this could also damage more components if you are unlucky like your flywheel and maybe transmission.

xun4gvn4everx

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How much did the repair cost you?

silverbullet05

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I had the same exact problem as you guys. So far i've had the clutch/pressure plate replaced, and clutch bracket installed. much better than it used to be, but now i'm having squeaking/vibration on the clutch pedal and rough shifting.
i'm guessing the master cylinder is going out or needs to be bled.... any suggestions?

nate340

i had the same issue as well. mine was just a few of the springs on the clutch had broken and finally got tangled up and jammed. i could only put the car in gear while stopped as well. i find that 3rd works best for getting around town and a bit of hwy driving lol.

RXeckless

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And we all bitch about our four to 6 year old 8's. We talking about your Subie not your long gone 8, if we are this is the WRONG Forum.

Rotary Mike

No, it was my 8 that stopped going into gear. This thread actually makes me a little nostalgic. This was the final straw and I sold the 8 after it was repaired.

Delmeister

What does the transmission input shaft have to do with the engine eccentric shaft?