I am enjoying my speedbleeders right now

 

This was nothing to do with any particular dealer, Im just fed-up with every time I get my 8 serviced something seem to go wrong. The worst thing that ever happened at my two GM dealerships (3 GTP's, Vibe, G5 and over the past 12 years) is they were hour or two late on pick-up times on a few occasions and GM the one in trouble. Like I said originally it just a run of bad luck but I am really getting a bad vibe, no pun intended.

P.S. The above mention issue are not the only times.

 

Update:
my email to the dealer:
Hi,
I was in last evening about the oil leaking from my RX-8 after getting service, but the oil on my garage floor looks like a lot more than what you explained to me. See attached photo.(same photo as the start of the tread)
As you can see there are two stains I only drove the car three times since getting it service. Just wondering if the detailing was done first and that's the reason no one noticed all this oil and how it pooled under the engine cover grommets if this was a simple spill or overflow from the oil change as was explained to me.

The cigarette package is for the scale.

this was their response:

I was not dealing with you but I did check into the concern this morning. The detail is always done after the service. If you would like to come in we can give a jug of shampoo to clean the oil off the garage floor and try to clean off whatever oil is left in the subframe.

 

Do these things really work, would save a lot of time and money after track days. My brake fluid is F@#ked after my last shannonville run with less than 3 thou Km on it.
Spring job 1

 

i like the way this part of yoru post started but it went south very quickly. i take extreme offense to that. i know i know, its your opinion (albeit a naive one) and i shouldnt take offense to it. but it just rubs me the wrong way.

I dont want to toot my own horn or anything, but in highschool i could have taken any path i wanted. I was in all the university level courses. I was even pushed into a gifted math class one year. did great in art when i applied myself...but a few pretty girls and i lost interest in the class. lol. computer programing, no problem. 90%s all around. anyways, my point is, i, and many other automotive service technicians have many choices and paths. we arent all highschool drop outs because we work at a job where we get grease on our hands. we choose it. for me, its a passion for cars. others see that its only a 3 year certification (and you work the entire time) that ends in a relatively high paying job where you are payed proportionately to how hard you work and how thorough you are at it (assuming there is enough work there for you).

i went into this not actually knowing what techs made. after working in a few different shops over the past few years i've met quite a few technicians that seem to have alot of fancy/expensive hobbies. boats with twin 502 chevy engines. a fleet of snowmobiles for the winter. 7000 dollar mountain bikes that they just toss in the back of their 2500 dodge pickup daily driver. and thats just one example.

so before you offend people, think man. people have choices and dont fail into being an automotive service technician. you have to work at it. there are underachievers in any feild. you also cant lump in jiffy lube employees with automotive service technicians...that seems to be where you've formed this opinion from.

and after all this...what do you do? huh? why are you on such a high horse, looking down at all us grease monkeys?




/rant

as for your comment about independants. figure this. it seems that at least once a month we get an rx8 towed in from an independant shop or different dealership that has flooded an rx8. that shows how little they know about them. right now at my work we have an rx8 sleeping over that is running only on one coil. yes, only one coil. i tested this myself and didnt quite beleive it. however, it is in fact running (and actually driving pretty well) on only the front trailing coil. and guess what, every mechanic in the shop has had to move this thing. and still, its not flooded. truth is. we know what we are doing when it comes to rx8s. we know what not to do and what to look for when one comes in with an engine problem. independants dont. plain and simple.

 

Rxeckless... the RX-8 is an exotic.... more Ferrari's were sold last year then rx-8's were...

 

hmmmm..... if the Renesis put out 300 ponies, and the 8 came in 600-700lbs lighter, then you would start to be able to classify it as exotic. primarily, something that is within the cost range of a good percentage of teenagers these days... can never be caled an exotic

 

Just to add to Gregs comments, I personally know of 5-6 techs making $100,000 a year or over, and like the rest of humanity the income gos with the level of tech. An average tech can make between $40,000-$70,000 depending on where they work, good ones in the six figure range. Seems to me thats about the same or more than an average BA from university.

 

They do work. Takes no time at all to bleed the brakes now. Hell I don't even have to take the wheel off!

Be careful when tightening them though. I over-torqued one by accident and it broke in half right in the caliper. Took a long time to get that out. since the ball bearing was stuck right at the edge in the caliper. We had to drill out the bearing so that we could get the extractor in there.

 

Neither did I, call it an "exotic" a mechanic did. The point I was trying to make many mechanics are leery to work on the Renesis, I believe it a simple lack of knowledge. Although fundamentally they are like any regular petroleum powered engine.

A good mechanic is worth his or her weight in gold.

 

i forget sometimes how ignorant some people are. you have no clue about some of the basics of life. i really hope you don't have children, teaching them these ignorant ideals. "your only smart or worth something if you have a high paid high powered job."

 

The first and second paragraph I understand, starting at the mid way of third paragraph is just being snobbish and arrogant.

The above 2 sentences has no relation between them at all. ZERO. To your 2nd sentence and the rest of the context is just ignorance - just that the market put more value on able to do complex mathematic calculations doesn't mean the other talents less valuable.

Everyone made mistakes. When a mechanic made one, it may harm your car and your life. When a "high pay ceo" type made mistakes, its your life savings. They are both bad, albeit for mechanics at least we have dealerships who stand up on their mistakes and corrects it (e.g Scarboro Mazda). Those ******** working for ibanks? None. nada.

Modern society has grown in complexity on many things. Cars are one of them. And a lot of us has to depend on other individuals who are trained in those skills. There is nothing wrong with that. If you have good mechanics skills, good for you. There are others who don't, and will trust trained and certified mechanics to do that. I have my respect to people with skills and professionalism, not based on just how much they earn.

Moreover, I've see way more croaks and ******** with millions salaries in large financial institutions in my line of work than people who sweat and bleed in their profession.

I don't judge a man's value on his salary and education. I see on his work output and dedication to his work. A highschool graduate mechanics admitting mistakes and correct it is much better than a phD financial engineering Financial Product VP who keep cranking out junk funds and risks public money for their own desire to bonuses.

 

'splain the lotus too me then

 

touché

 

I suppose I can see how one would be offended so I will apologize. I did use harsher termonology to make a point, partially because I think many people have unrealistic expectations. I do wish to make a few clairfying remarks.

Greg, I will point out that while many of my words weren't chosen as carefully as they should have been, the lack of the work "all" was very deliberate. It's like anything, the normal distribution curve or a variation of it usually applies. My comments were based on my impression of a good sample of individuals based on work experience. That said, just because someone goes a certain direction in life doesn't mean that one is better or worse than another. Neither are most types of skill sets better than others. Based on Al's comments it sounds things may be different domestic vs. Mazda. For the record I do not consider myself "especially talented" and I don't have a high powered job or large income. That said, I think it's intellectually dishonest to ignore certain corelations between some things.

As for independants, I've owned a rotary powered vehicle for a number of number of years and I did less of my own work in the beginning, so while I may not have a terrific sample to pull from, I've never run into any issues. Perhaps one simply needs to be careful/lucky?

I'll shutup now.

 

I understand what you mean, but I just absolutely disagree on "it's intellectually dishonest to ignore certain correlations between some things." based on what you wrote.

If you mean correlations of "job title and education level", the of course most mechanics will have more cases of lower education level than a VP in finance.

However, thats not what you mean. In your original text, this is what you really meant:
So, talent equals money. Since mechanics have no talent, they have no money. Why? look at them if they are so talented they should be doing something else to make more money! Honestly!

Yeah right. You are not being dishonest. You are just plain snobbish and arrogant.

I hope you do everything in life by yourself since most normal persons having normal jobs are not rich - hence can haz no talentz the sux0r. See what University they goes to? U of T? A Canadian University? Oh my god they must suck. Instead, people who stay in Canada sucks 'cause if they don't suck, who would have stayed in a place where its so god damn cold for 1/3 of the year!