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Old 07-28-2005, 11:44 AM
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Respectfully, I think you're missing his point. He's talking about the comments around Americans and foreigners causing the problems. I cringed when I read that and I don't agree.

Frankly , I'm not sure how one would tell a foreigner from a Canadian (especially a Torontonian). 50% of Torontonians were born outside of the country. The diversity is what makes the city great.

Is the city going down the ******* ? Not sure. It's certainly different than when I moved here in '86 (it's not as clean, subways are overcrowded, roads are overcrowded, I'm actually not sure if it's more dangerous now - I think I just hear about it more than I used to (internet, cbc in the morning instead of the rock station, tv)).

I , for one , still love the city.

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Fair enough, just wish he'd say that and not you. That's not what I got out of his post at all

Why would you cringe when people say that Americans come up to a festival and cause problems? Would you feel better if someone said that it was people who lived in Toronto that were stabbing and shooting people? This confuses me...
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Don't really care who it is, the result is the same. Toronto is getting to be a scary place at night.

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Why would you cringe when people say that Americans come up to a festival and cause problems? Would you feel better if someone said that it was people who lived in Toronto that were stabbing and shooting people? This confuses me...
True... I cringed because it sounded like a sweeping generalization. I think there are probably a number of Toronto people that are just as "disruptive", even when Caribana is not on.
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Originally Posted by herbert
Respectfully, I think you're missing his point. He's talking about the comments around Americans and foreigners causing the problems. I cringed when I read that and I don't agree.

Frankly , I'm not sure how one would tell a foreigner from a Canadian (especially a Torontonian). 50% of Torontonians were born outside of the country. The diversity is what makes the city great.

Is the city going down the ******* ? Not sure. It's certainly different than when I moved here in '86 (it's not as clean, subways are overcrowded, roads are overcrowded, I'm actually not sure if it's more dangerous now - I think I just hear about it more than I used to (internet, cbc in the morning instead of the rock station, tv)).

I , for one , still love the city.

Maybe we should talk about Rx-8s
I've been the carabana many times, my best friend is from Trinidad so I'm forced to go

Carabana is only dangerous if your looking for a fight.. If you just go about your business you won't have to worry about anything..

And I suspect the reason why people say it's the americans is because of the select few morons that run around our streets screaming

"MIA BITCH, MIA (meaning miami i think), YOU WANT SOME YOU NEW YORK PUNKS, HUH!@!! HUH!!@! DON'T MAKE ME HURT YOU" That's to name a few comments i've overheard while wandering the streets.

And please don't try and tell me i'm being stereotyping because I've seen it with my own eyes!! Carabana can become a giant pissing match, but that doesn't always happen nor am I implying it has always happend..

Remember, this is supposed to be for both older people and younger people a like! I guess carabana has gotten a bad rap because no matter what anyone says crime does increase during this time. Blame it on the summer, blame it on the full moon, or blame it on carabana but it happens..

I hope I didn't offend anyone, but i'm only telling you i have personally seen. And like I mentioned in my previous post, my friend witnessed people throwing rocks at a police horse during Carabana. who cares where they're from, but do you think this is normal for toronto? of course not!!
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Thanks for the explanation MrJynx. I'm not offended.
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Originally Posted by Lawyer's Spirit
Not worthy of a response.



So you are saying that events where people dance alongside decorated floats are the real problem.



Your above comment is a blatant stereotype. And frankly I apologize on your behalf to any Ohio,NY and foreign readers that come and spend their much needed tourist dollars in our city.

I've said enough on this topic.
Lawyer ... I truly believe that you have not been on Yonge st during the evening of Carabana. During the day with the floats ... it is VERY tame compared to the evening. There is nothing wrong with the people during the day as they are mainly common folk, and families. I dare you to walk down Yonge during the Carabana in the evening and come back saying the samething. Oh make sure to say hi to the 6 man police patrols for me.

You really think that my comment on the trouble makers being American and foreign is stereotypical? Once again, go down there to see and look at all the plates. I'm sure you're more inteligent to think that I mean ALL Americans and foreigners act this way.

To add to what Mr. Jynx said ... I too have witness the hooligans causing trouble. Not the police horses but guys hooting at girls, staring each other down, and guys with video cams harassing girls.

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ya this one place charged 50 Rias to get in and gave me a credit card thing.. But the cool thing was it had 50 rias on it so as long as you drink that much it didn't really cost anything.. hehehe, when the girl who asked what my name was I told her, and she put in her system "Gringo" hahaha made me laugh

Oh and as for copacabana, all I have to say is remember that club Help? now that was the most messed up place i've ever been!! Lonely planet said "largest club in latin america!" so my friend and I were like ok, let's check it out.. it should have said "largest brothel in south america" it smelled funny to

But I love south america, can't wait to go back.. already been to brazil, uraguay and argentina!

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You know what, we probably went to similar clubs with the credit card thing and all. Ha ha ... Gringo ... should have thought of that.

We went to HELP as well cuz our guide book also said it was the "biggest and most happening". It didn't say that most of the girls were hookers!!
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I could not believe how many times I was hit on in HELP. Cool place though ! And walking back to the hotel at 3 in the morning. Topless (and bottomless) hookers. Good times !
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Originally Posted by Lawyer's Spirit
There is nothing like getting on a flight headed back to Toronto, I love this town.
And you can have it! Nobody else in the country likes it, so we have a saw off. Those that love the place- those that hate it. You have to love what it is all about to appreciate it all. Unanimous opinion of the rest of us in the country Torontonians are mostly ignorant of anywhere outside of their concrete jungle, look down on those same outsiders and their opinions and attitudes, and are cafe & latte Socialists. They are some of the only Canadians that have sunburns on the insides of their nostrils!

That is enough for most of us to stay the hell away!

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by herbert
I think I just hear about it more than I used to (internet, cbc in the morning instead of the rock station, tv)).

I , for one , still love the city.
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I could not believe how many times I was hit on in HELP. Cool place though ! And walking back to the hotel at 3 in the morning. Topless (and bottomless) hookers. Good times !
You know ... at first we thought we were pimp daddies! I thought because in Brazil there aren't many asian people, I was a novelty. I never did see the topless/bottomless hookers though. ha ha.
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Originally Posted by Hard-Body
And you can have it! Nobody else in the country likes it, so we have a saw off. Those that love the place- those that hate it. You have to love what it is all about to appreciate it all. Unanimous opinion of the rest of us in the country Torontonians are mostly ignorant of anywhere outside of their concrete jungle, look down on those same outsiders and their opinions and attitudes, and are cafe & latte Socialists. They are some of the only Canadians that have sunburns on the insides of their nostrils!

That is enough for most of us to stay the hell away!

Enjoy!
How can you say no one else in the country likes it? I'd be interrested to hear the reason why someone in Nova Scotia would hate Toronto.

I'm not sure where you get the "ignorant" thing from, if by ignorant you mean that we may not appear to know much about anything outside the GTA, and in some cases that is probably true, but keep in mind that over half the people that live here were born elsewhere.

As for the rest of us, we're probably just simply caught up in the way of life here, and unless something affects us directly, we probably don't care. Same as you probably don't care about what happens in Flin Flon.

I'm not tryingto start a flame war, I'm just stating my viewpoint
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Well Without getting stereotypical

Caribanna can be great as there is definitely a good time to be had.

BUT

You have to becareful at the night parties... Those things can spin way out of control at the drop of a hat and mainly because Caribanna is (as mentioned quite fittingly early) a major pissing match and there is an insane amount of ignorance that follows suit
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Originally Posted by BrilliantBlackEight
How can you say no one else in the country likes it? I'd be interrested to hear the reason why someone in Nova Scotia would hate Toronto.

I'm not sure where you get the "ignorant" thing from, if by ignorant you mean that we may not appear to know much about anything outside the GTA, and in some cases that is probably true, but keep in mind that over half the people that live here were born elsewhere.

As for the rest of us, we're probably just simply caught up in the way of life here, and unless something affects us directly, we probably don't care. Same as you probably don't care about what happens in Flin Flon.

I'm not tryingto start a flame war, I'm just stating my viewpoint
If a survey was done across Canada asking people "What Canadian city do you hate the most?", Toronto would undoubtedly win. (Of course, Toronto couldn't be included in the survey as they'd skew the results...they do have about 13% of Canada's population).

This is sad, but true. I'm not sure why, but that's just the way it is.
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Originally Posted by Hard-Body
And you can have it! Nobody else in the country likes it, so we have a saw off. Those that love the place- those that hate it. You have to love what it is all about to appreciate it all. Unanimous opinion of the rest of us in the country Torontonians are mostly ignorant of anywhere outside of their concrete jungle, look down on those same outsiders and their opinions and attitudes, and are cafe & latte Socialists. They are some of the only Canadians that have sunburns on the insides of their nostrils!

That is enough for most of us to stay the hell away!

Enjoy!
Such hostility.

So you've spent quite a bit of time in Toronto, have you ?

Sounds like a bit of Toronto-envy happening :D
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