bean438

Carcostcanada.com

100 bucks for their car broker service.

You tell them what mark up you want to pay, and also any costs (b.s. admin fee's etc).

Someone will call you back and let you know realistically what you can buy the car for.

He punches it out with the dealer, and in a couple of days will phne you back with a total price, and who to contact.

If he cant deal then you are not charged.

I bought my last vehicle this way. Best hundred bucks I ever spent. Honestly.

One thing he will stress though is not to take this offer to another dealer to shave a few more bucks off.

Most dealers that step up to the plate with this guy (I believe he has a good network of dealers across Canada) might be discouraged to do so in the future.

R888

Good info.!!

RealityRx8

One thing he will stress though is not to take this offer to another dealer to shave a few more bucks off.

**I spoke with a broker who had a reputation for getting the lowest price possible... I was able to get $1000 below the brokers bottomline buy simply calling and visiting as many dealers as I could.**

IMO, a little leg works still pays in the end..

bean438

A little leg work will ruin it for everyone else.

Dealers will no longer "step up to the plate" if they will simply be under cut by a few more bucks.

RealityRx8

Thats a crock O' ****.... A broker is doing the exact same thing, exept that you are paying him $$$$ to do it.

Your telling me that you would pay thousands more to help out a total stranger???
LOL!!!!!!
and if dealer "A", is willing to under cut dealer "B", why would you not take the lower price and save yourself some money???

GulfCoast

Check out Edmunds' car-buying tips: http://www.edmunds.com/advice/.

Here's a link to the Kelly Blue Book page on the 2006 manual RX8: http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.n...MAX1_BM;060700. It shows MSRP price, invoice, and "what consumers are really paying for this vehicle." You can add options by clicking "Price with Options."

Finally, Kelly also has a listing of current incentives: http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.n...;&32514&&;;inc

The manual 8 is here: http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.n...MAX1_BM;060700

There are a couple of current incentives, but they expire July 5. Sometimes, the incentives give you an idea of which cars are selling well and which cars dealers have additional money with which to play.

I don't know if these tools are usefulf or the Canadian market.

bean438

The whole point of using a broker is to avoid the entire haggling process.
Brokers (and car buying services) usually have a network of dealers that pre agree to pricing that represents what is fair to everyone.

What I am trying to say (and you dont seem to understand) is that yes you can always take your price to play against another dealer. There may always be another dealer that will undercut someone else, dependant on different variables.

In my case the Nissan dealer I bought from was concerned that after stepping up to the plate, he would be undercut by a couple of dollars.
If this were to happen that dealer may in the future refuse to deal with the broker.
Thus ruining it for eveyone else.

The whole point of using a broker is to avoid playing dealers against one another.

So, when my broker asks me not to start the back and forth game, then I will do that. Otherwise I will not enlist the help of a broker.

Of course I will not pay thousands more to help a complete stranger.
That would never happen.

I seriously doubt you were able to knock another grand of the brokers price. Well maybe if it was a high priced vehicle and the dealer needed one more sale at the end of the month to win a prize.

You may be able to knock 50 bucks off per dealer via the back and forth method. You may even get some floor mats.
But thousands?

I guess anything is possible, but that has not been my experience.

Can someone chime in here, and tell me if they understand what I am saying?

I live in Winnipeg, the wholesale cheapskate capital of Canada. Everyone wants something for nothing.

I used to work retail.

It would drive me nuts to see people play the back and forth game for weeks just to shave small amounts off of a big purchase.

Serious money is saved (be me personally any way) be using a broker.

My last purchase saw a savings of just under 2 grand on a 32, 000 vehicle.
This was better than I was able to do on my own.

I am not saying you will not save further by playing your broker's offer against another dealer.

Al I am saying is that if you had pulled your stunt on my dealer prior to my purchase, my broker may not have been able to the job I hired him for.

84stock

I sold cars before, the salesman's goal is to close the deal for the most the customer will pay no matter what. I quit because this line of sales brings the worst out of a good salesman. Everyone says "be prepared to leave". I say, no matter how good the deal seems, "LEAVE" and give it some thought otherwise your emotions will guid your purchase. Now the salesman will call you daily to follow up, play with him, tell him what "you want from him for a deal" and be prepared to close if he will come through. Last of all, go to all dealerships. Some command a better markup than others due to their location and take advantage of it, check out the "out of town" dealers as well. Now for financing, tell them you "are" looking to fianance, they get a kickback from the banks and will cut their margin. Then when it comes to finalizing, make a 95% down payment on the deal. Never do a trade in, they'll give you squat no matter how they color it.