So I swapped the battery, and the clutch, car started and then just died, now it cranks but wont start.

HELP!

 

Did you check if it's flooded?

If it just started then died that would be a likely bet

 

Never happened before, how do I check. I dont wanna pull the plugs yet. Hoping its not flooded.

 

You pretty much gotta pull the plugs to be sure. If they're wet, you're flooded.

You can try some random deflooding procedures from the DIY forum but I'm pretty skeptical about those. Best way is to pull the plugs, crank until the fuel spews out, dry the plugs and put them back in. If the plugs are fouled, consider new plugs.

 

try and get some buddies to bump start it....

I'm out for that... still can't breathe properly.

 

Well I pushed the clutch in and the accelerator and the exhaust just POPPED! LOUD! but still no start

 

DOes jump starting hurt the clutch?

And the problem with that is, if it doesnt start, I gotta push it back up the driveway.

 

what happened when it died? Weird why it would just die on you.

I'm sure caused the flooding. Do the Mazda deflooding, doesn't work pull the fuel relay. Least you have a strong battery now Did you get the red?

 

ya I have the red, cranks like a ****, but i dont know if maybe bad gas killed it, i topped up with fresh gas on top of the gas that had stablizer in it

 

Shouldn't hurt the clutch.

As Thumper said, pull the fuel relay to make sure no more fuel gets injected in there when you are deflooding.

 

Ya love how it cranks it If you did that to your gas should be fine. Get it deflooded, do the relay, crank it, let it sit for awhile, do it again, let sit, etc...then finally try to start it after a few hours of sitting and cranking, getting the gas out. That's what I would do anyhow, then pull the plugs if still not going.

 

what do i do with the fuel relay?

do i pull it out put in back in and crank

or pull it out and then crank and try to get it started

 

Pull the fuse...will stop the gas going to the engine...leave it out and crank. Let the car sit, then do it again and again. Then put it back in and try starting it.

 

You pull the fuel relay to ensure that you aren't adding more fuel to an already flooded engine as you crank it.

It really is easier to push start it tho' (will take more than the length of a typical driveway however). It doesn't hurt the clutch as you aren't going very fast when you effectively drop it.

 

First attempt no go, will try agaim in a bit, this is BS

 

Just a note: pulling the relay stops new fuel from going into the engine but it won't remove the fuel that's already in there. So, you still need to get that fuel out.

Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes!

I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot.

 

As Wulf mentions below...sometimes you have to do it a few times. Personally tho, I would pull the relay crank...leave it for 5 minutes, relay still out crank again, and repeat. Basically getting all the fuel out, do that 5 or more times, then put it back in and crank as per norm. Just my thought.

Ya wulf, but cranking it while out is suppose to get the full out and pushes it into the exhaust which ends up getting caught in the cat It's so much better if you don't have to pull the plugs what a pain and I have to agree with Pros that, that would be the last resort.

 

I'd rather spend 30 minutes (worst case) to pull the plugs than to dump fuel in my cat. Especially if I am going to have to check the plugs for fouling anyways.

But to each his own.

 

Good point!! However, just remember he doesn't have one lol

 

If I need new plugs. BS, well cranked again no go, gotta head out to work now, gonna try tonight, if not pull the plus tomorrow morning.

 

Ya my cat is already fuked, so no worries there.

 

Hah didn't know that. I guess there's no problem there then!

I would still want to check my plugs though. I'm pretty **** about keeping the car running at it's peak.

 

shitty! if it's cranking it's gotta be flooded

 

dude... remember... you helped bump mine :p

 

jay, you shouldnt just assume its flooded. you need to know if its flooded before you waste your time and abuse your starter trying to deflood. honestly, pull one spark plug out and you'll know if its flooded. what if the fuel pump took a **** over the winter? or the IGN1 or ING2 fuse popped (i fixed a no start rx8 with this problem about a month ago. the heatshield on his cat fell down and sliced open some wires on the rear o2. those wires touched together and popped the IGN1 or ING2 fuse and it wouldnt start because the injectors werent working)? or maybe the imobilizer system is Fd. trying to deflood when you dont know is just guessing and a waste of time IMO. good luck man and if you need any help, it looks like ill be off tomorrow afternoon.