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Old 03-28-2008, 07:27 PM
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MSP 16 ^ Millky White Oil Dipstick TSB recall done....

Hey guys,

So, I went to Erin Mills Mazda (my dealer) at 9:00am today to have my two warranty repairs done. The service manager whom I usually deal with was not there today, and no assistant manager was there either so even though I was promised 2-3 hours by the service manager when I first booked the appointment, I picked up my car at 4:00pm! They said it was because my shuttle was late, but they apparently had troubles with the milky white recall, even the though they had the ordered parts from Japan, they said that they needed time to install it and needed some other documentation to show the technician how to do it. I felt kinda weird after hearing that, so I checked my odometer, and they had done approx. 0.7 kms extra, so I guess that verifies what they told me about the technician going round the block to test it. So here are my few observations:

1) With the new chip, the throttle seems to be noticeably more responsive than before. Also, the starter is almost instant and the idle is pretty smooth, so all in all, it seems like an improvement. Other than that, I don't notice any other difference. My car runs as well as it did before.

2) I still see the milky white substance, but the service guy said it would take a couple of 100kms for the white stuff to go, plus it will only completely disappear on the next oil change. What do you guys think about that?

Okay, so here are my questions:

My radio station had been changed, so I assume this dude wanted to listen to something on his drive to check my car? I dunno I felt uneasy about that....is there a necessity for the guy to take the car for a drive, and if so, should he be changing radio stations? Shouldn't he be listening for car sounds? Also, I'm quite concerned to how this technician drove my car....did he drive it hard, etc? Should I bring this up with Mazda?

Thanks for your help guys and God Bless you all!

Ben.

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Just one station, or all, and if so do they increase in teh presets in an order, if thats the case, they just discoed your battery. You can mention it to your service manager about it, doubt much will happen. Driving it hard, who knows, he could have redlined it, or not, its out of your hands when they got the keys, and as long as it starts up and you can drive away home from them, their pretty much safe. Try another dealership, if your having issues. I think its only necessary to drive it, to make sure the car actually drives, and they didnt screw anything up. The best way to futureproof these mechanical tards is to get a Cobb and flash the ECU to Valet mod, and if they approach you with why the car cant go past 3500, you ask them why their even trying. I am so tempted to do this when I go in for an oil change.

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Originally Posted by prospectjtaz
Just one station, or all, and if so do they increase in teh presets in an order, if thats the case, they just discoed your battery. You can mention it to your service manager about it, doubt much will happen. Driving it hard, who knows, he could have redlined it, or not, its out of your hands when they got the keys, and as long as it starts up and you can drive away home from them, their pretty much safe. Try another dealership, if your having issues. I think its only necessary to drive it, to make sure the car actually drives, and they didnt screw anything up. The best way to futureproof these mechanical tards is to get a Cobb and flash the ECU to Valet mod, and if they approach you with why the car cant go past 3500, you ask them why their even trying. I am so tempted to do this when I go in for an oil change.
It was one station....the rest appear to be in order....that's seems a little odd to me. I will take it up with the service manager when he's back. Too bad we don't have an on-board computer system like the Skyline R34 GT-R and the new GT-R where it tracks the exact revs, driving style, etc.... so you can check it after the drive. I mean this sucks....why should we be concerned when we go to a Mazda dealership....there should be some respect and trust for customers should there not?

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everytime i went the dealership, i always left the music on and when i got the car returned, the music was always off; but i dont really care about it cuz i think dealers always know how to treat the rotary engine, and they always make sure they dont shut down the car when its not at the operating temp. at least the dealership where i only go to does treat my car good.
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So the canadian dealerships are now up to speed on the latest TSB ?

Its the first I heard of this.
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Originally Posted by ChristInBen
2) I still see the milky white substance, but the service guy said it would take a couple of 100kms for the white stuff to go, plus it will only completely disappear on the next oil change. What do you guys think about that?
It works.
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Originally Posted by Delmeister
It works.
Can someone point me to this Canadian TSB that gets ride of the milky white crud on the dipstick? I had the dip stick changed to the "new and improved" but the crud still forms on it.
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yea my radio is always off when I pick it up. Do you know that they drove your car out? They add about 1km to my car cuz they bring it to the gas station to get it washed.
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yea my radio is always off when I pick it up. Do you know that they drove your car out? They add about 1km to my car cuz they bring it to the gas station to get it washed.
Yeah I know that they drove it out cuz the service guy said they did to test it. Plus, the seat was all the way back as well. They also apologized for not washing the car as they didn't have time or something!
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Originally Posted by Railton
Can someone point me to this Canadian TSB that gets ride of the milky white crud on the dipstick? I had the dip stick changed to the "new and improved" but the crud still forms on it.
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The Canadian TSB is essentially the same as the American one although in my receipt it is referred to as Bull #07-12.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...50-06-1664.pdf

Very surprising yours did not work, but are you talking about the above procedure, or just replacing the dipstick?
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Originally Posted by Delmeister
The Canadian TSB is essentially the same as the American one although in my receipt it is referred to as Bull #07-12.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...50-06-1664.pdf

Very surprising yours did not work, but are you talking about the above procedure, or just replacing the dipstick?
I didn't get my dipstick replaced even though I got the milky white TSB done....should I?
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Dipstick is fine...wait until you've driven it a bit...when it gets warmed up..the condensation that is causing the problem will warm up and evaporate...and go away.

Drive it somewhere for about an hour....


After the first oil change it will get better as well.
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Originally Posted by ChristInBen
I didn't get my dipstick replaced even though I got the milky white TSB done....should I?
My dipstick was replaced with the first solution to this problem - the plastic tube insert that didn't work. However I think I prefer the original dipstick since it was more substantial than the flimsy replacement.
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what model year is your car Ben? IIRC later 8s do not have this issues. At least my 06 doesn't. I am glad the Cdn dealership are up to speed with the MSP16 tsb. I'll probably wait until my next oil change to have it done since my car's been driving fine.
How about that engine cleaning tsb?
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Originally Posted by delhi
what model year is your car Ben? IIRC later 8s do not have this issues. At least my 06 doesn't. I am glad the Cdn dealership are up to speed with the MSP16 tsb. I'll probably wait until my next oil change to have it done since my car's been driving fine.
How about that engine cleaning tsb?
I have an '05 GT. What's IIRC? I spoke to the dealership and the tech that worked on my car told me that he didn't replace the dipstick!
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IIRC - If I Remember Correctly
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IIRC - If I Remember Correctly
Lol, thx!
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Originally Posted by Delmeister
The Canadian TSB is essentially the same as the American one although in my receipt it is referred to as Bull #07-12.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...50-06-1664.pdf

Very surprising yours did not work, but are you talking about the above procedure, or just replacing the dipstick?
OK, after review of the above link, this has most definately not been done to my car. I will print off and show them on my next trip which is not going to be too long from now as the CEL turned on again today...(*sigh*)
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THE MSP16 is not available in Avanta Mazda yet.......

Oh come on!!
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Originally Posted by Railton
OK, after review of the above link, this has most definately not been done to my car. I will print off and show them on my next trip which is not going to be too long from now as the CEL turned on again today...(*sigh*)
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Some dealerships will say that the TSB is issued from Mazda America thus not applicable to Canuck RX-8s.
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msp 16 are u guys sure u didnt mix up this recall??? i thought msp 16 was the new recall -the new flash on engine start more oil is injected and less plus they clean out the carbon build up in some engines
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