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12-08-2013, 03:25 PM
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As of September (2013), the cost for a reman increased by about $1,300 to $3,300 and change (USD). You likely won't find a dealer willing to sell a reman to you for less than this, and most will mark it up 20%-100%.
The price of the engine components has not increased.
Given the price of the remans now, rebuilding becomes a much more viable option.
The price of the engine components has not increased.
Given the price of the remans now, rebuilding becomes a much more viable option.
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12-08-2013, 03:43 PM
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Yeah, just surprises me that they would increase the price for the US and not Canada too, since both are under MNAO, and if anything it would cost more to get remans to Canada with shipping and import duties, etc...
The no-markup is also surprising to me. I've seen US dealers sell remans for the list of $2,001, and I've seen them try to charge $10,000 just for the engine without labor. Usually most seemed to be in the $2,500 to $3,000 range. Makes me wonder if there is something in Canadian law that prevents them from marking them up.
The no-markup is also surprising to me. I've seen US dealers sell remans for the list of $2,001, and I've seen them try to charge $10,000 just for the engine without labor. Usually most seemed to be in the $2,500 to $3,000 range. Makes me wonder if there is something in Canadian law that prevents them from marking them up.
12-08-2013, 04:49 PM
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It's more than likely Mazda Canada....they are autonomous in most respects from Mazda US when it comes to a lot of decisions
Usually they make things worse...but every once in a while they surprise us
The oil line recall was one....and this seems to be another
Usually they make things worse...but every once in a while they surprise us
The oil line recall was one....and this seems to be another
12-09-2013, 01:14 PM
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Life After 8K RPM....
On another note.. Just wanted to update ya'll Fortunately my Renesis is not dying yet.
It was severely flooded, starter cracked from the middle, exhaust leaking, cat squeezed.
My coils also went bad just had 10K on them.. (Lent my car to a friend for a day) a lesson learned the hard way no more.
I replaced the oem plugs, wires, coils, deflooded the engine (this took more than 1 hour) giant smoke show after that. Changed the starter, waiting on racing beat exhaust and Cat Delete and bhr ignition kit. she is running good but lacking power as the exhaust is leaking and cat is squeezed.
It was severely flooded, starter cracked from the middle, exhaust leaking, cat squeezed.
My coils also went bad just had 10K on them.. (Lent my car to a friend for a day) a lesson learned the hard way no more.
I replaced the oem plugs, wires, coils, deflooded the engine (this took more than 1 hour) giant smoke show after that. Changed the starter, waiting on racing beat exhaust and Cat Delete and bhr ignition kit. she is running good but lacking power as the exhaust is leaking and cat is squeezed.
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Just a note on the Mazda Remanufactured engines...
Vehicle: 2004 RX-8 GT 4AT @ 146000km... Date of Manufacture: December 25, 2003. Date of First Service: November 17, 2004
Original engine started failing in early (march/april) 2012 (standard low power issues, progressed to hot start issues). Diagnostics included new plugs / wires / coils. Warranty expired November 2012. Mazda refused warranty replacement as all compression test results were marginally within specs (they, apparently, do not consider a single failed chamber as a failed engine). Replaced the starter in May 2013, which solved (masked) the hot start issue. Engine completely failed in November 2013. Last compression test on the engine two weeks before failure were (in Kgf/cm2) R1: 4.4, 4.6, 4.5 @250rpm and R2: 4.2, 4.2, 4.6 @250rpm.
Decided, after weighing the available options, to proceed with a Mazda remanufactured engine on January 2014. The first remanufactured engine was installed by January 20, 2014 at a cost of just less that $4800. During the old engine removal, it was discovered that the catalytic converter was clogged and was replaced (by an Wagner aftermarket unit @ $480) and that the rear engine/transmission harness was melted and burnt and was replaced (@ $1200). The dealer did not charge labour on the replacement of these parts, just the standard labour charges for the engine replacement (Mazda states 17 hours labour for engine replacement - This is what Mazda Canada will reimburse the dealer when an engine is replaced under warranty). Also installed new coils/plugs/wires under warranty (as the dealer held open the diagnostic from November, when all these parts were still under warranty). When the car was returned to me, the dealer had not done a compression test as they said that Mazda did not require one and the mechanic who worked on the car said that the car was operating extremely well.
On the initial test drive after getting the car back the vehicle was operating well... Plenty of power (as compared to the old engine before it died), smooth idle. However, once the engine had warmed up, it experienced a rattling sound under acceleration and hot start issues and was throwing DTCs (P0336 and P0368). Initial diagnostic included replacement of the ESPS, battery terminals and battery. Within two days the issue progressed to a hot crank/ no start issue (car required three or more crank cycles (15 seconds cranking, 10 seconds cooldown) to start when warm). Mazda finally authorized the compression test. Results (in Kgf/cm2): R1: 6.4, 6.8, 6.7 R2: 6.4, 6.4, 6.5 @ 250rpm. Mazda authorized engine replacement.
Second engine replacement was completed February 12. Dealer did installation and initial break-in (where the engine is run at idle for 45 minutes after installation) then did a compression test. Results: R1: 6.4, 6.9, 6.8 @250rpm R2: 6.7, 6.4, 6.5 @250rpm. Results were reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Operate vehicle through 1500KM break-in keeping RPM under 5000 and retest. Vehicle driven 1650 KMs, vehicle experienced rattling under acceleration, lack of power, slow throttle response. Compression retested. Results: R1: 8.2, 8.3, 8.4 @250rpm R2: 6.8, 6.9, 6.9 @250rpm. These results, although very good for the front rotor, indicate a fail due to rotor difference and due to Mazda's stated specs for a remanufactured engine (apparently the compression standard for a reman is 7.1 - 7.5). Results reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Test OMP and oil nozzles and retest. (The dealer's service advisor and the mechanic both commented that this is a waste of time.. If the OMP was completely inoperative, damage to the engine should not occur within the initial break-in or the first 2000km and the OMP and nozzles are tested and inspected as part of the engine replacement - This could be Mazda looking for a reason to deny warranty) Vehicle OMP and oil nozzles tested and found to be operating within specifications. Compression retested. Results: R1: 6.7, 6.7, 6.9 R2: 6.7, 6.9, 6.9. Results reported to Mazda. Still waiting for Mazda's response.
The lessons:
1) Deciding to go with a Mazda Remanufactured engine installed at a Mazda dealer, does not mean that you will have a trouble free experience.
2) Make sure that the dealer doing the install keeps the work order for you service open until you are satisfied that the new engine is operating correctly and has acceptable compression. Your new engine warranty of 12 months/ 20000 Kms does not start until the work order is closed and is based on the milage recorded on the work order at that time. (which means that, in my case, even though it has been six weeks and almost 2300kms since I authorized the dealer to replace the engine, all the extra diagnostic is covered by Mazda under warranty, but the warranty clock has not yet started to run down and will not start to run down until I have an engine that is within specs and is operating normally)
3) When paying your dealer for the service, use a credit card (visa/MasterCard, etc) and retain copies of all test results, so that if Mazda does not do the right thing you will still have some recourse. Most credit cards will allow you to file a chargeback within three to six months of the transaction, in the case of a merchant (Mazda) supplying defective parts and refusing to provide warranty support.
FOR THE RECORD: The dealer performing the service has been excellent and I am MORE than pleased with the service I am receiving from them.
Vehicle: 2004 RX-8 GT 4AT @ 146000km... Date of Manufacture: December 25, 2003. Date of First Service: November 17, 2004
Original engine started failing in early (march/april) 2012 (standard low power issues, progressed to hot start issues). Diagnostics included new plugs / wires / coils. Warranty expired November 2012. Mazda refused warranty replacement as all compression test results were marginally within specs (they, apparently, do not consider a single failed chamber as a failed engine). Replaced the starter in May 2013, which solved (masked) the hot start issue. Engine completely failed in November 2013. Last compression test on the engine two weeks before failure were (in Kgf/cm2) R1: 4.4, 4.6, 4.5 @250rpm and R2: 4.2, 4.2, 4.6 @250rpm.
Decided, after weighing the available options, to proceed with a Mazda remanufactured engine on January 2014. The first remanufactured engine was installed by January 20, 2014 at a cost of just less that $4800. During the old engine removal, it was discovered that the catalytic converter was clogged and was replaced (by an Wagner aftermarket unit @ $480) and that the rear engine/transmission harness was melted and burnt and was replaced (@ $1200). The dealer did not charge labour on the replacement of these parts, just the standard labour charges for the engine replacement (Mazda states 17 hours labour for engine replacement - This is what Mazda Canada will reimburse the dealer when an engine is replaced under warranty). Also installed new coils/plugs/wires under warranty (as the dealer held open the diagnostic from November, when all these parts were still under warranty). When the car was returned to me, the dealer had not done a compression test as they said that Mazda did not require one and the mechanic who worked on the car said that the car was operating extremely well.
On the initial test drive after getting the car back the vehicle was operating well... Plenty of power (as compared to the old engine before it died), smooth idle. However, once the engine had warmed up, it experienced a rattling sound under acceleration and hot start issues and was throwing DTCs (P0336 and P0368). Initial diagnostic included replacement of the ESPS, battery terminals and battery. Within two days the issue progressed to a hot crank/ no start issue (car required three or more crank cycles (15 seconds cranking, 10 seconds cooldown) to start when warm). Mazda finally authorized the compression test. Results (in Kgf/cm2): R1: 6.4, 6.8, 6.7 R2: 6.4, 6.4, 6.5 @ 250rpm. Mazda authorized engine replacement.
Second engine replacement was completed February 12. Dealer did installation and initial break-in (where the engine is run at idle for 45 minutes after installation) then did a compression test. Results: R1: 6.4, 6.9, 6.8 @250rpm R2: 6.7, 6.4, 6.5 @250rpm. Results were reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Operate vehicle through 1500KM break-in keeping RPM under 5000 and retest. Vehicle driven 1650 KMs, vehicle experienced rattling under acceleration, lack of power, slow throttle response. Compression retested. Results: R1: 8.2, 8.3, 8.4 @250rpm R2: 6.8, 6.9, 6.9 @250rpm. These results, although very good for the front rotor, indicate a fail due to rotor difference and due to Mazda's stated specs for a remanufactured engine (apparently the compression standard for a reman is 7.1 - 7.5). Results reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Test OMP and oil nozzles and retest. (The dealer's service advisor and the mechanic both commented that this is a waste of time.. If the OMP was completely inoperative, damage to the engine should not occur within the initial break-in or the first 2000km and the OMP and nozzles are tested and inspected as part of the engine replacement - This could be Mazda looking for a reason to deny warranty) Vehicle OMP and oil nozzles tested and found to be operating within specifications. Compression retested. Results: R1: 6.7, 6.7, 6.9 R2: 6.7, 6.9, 6.9. Results reported to Mazda. Still waiting for Mazda's response.
The lessons:
1) Deciding to go with a Mazda Remanufactured engine installed at a Mazda dealer, does not mean that you will have a trouble free experience.
2) Make sure that the dealer doing the install keeps the work order for you service open until you are satisfied that the new engine is operating correctly and has acceptable compression. Your new engine warranty of 12 months/ 20000 Kms does not start until the work order is closed and is based on the milage recorded on the work order at that time. (which means that, in my case, even though it has been six weeks and almost 2300kms since I authorized the dealer to replace the engine, all the extra diagnostic is covered by Mazda under warranty, but the warranty clock has not yet started to run down and will not start to run down until I have an engine that is within specs and is operating normally)
3) When paying your dealer for the service, use a credit card (visa/MasterCard, etc) and retain copies of all test results, so that if Mazda does not do the right thing you will still have some recourse. Most credit cards will allow you to file a chargeback within three to six months of the transaction, in the case of a merchant (Mazda) supplying defective parts and refusing to provide warranty support.
FOR THE RECORD: The dealer performing the service has been excellent and I am MORE than pleased with the service I am receiving from them.
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02-21-2014, 07:13 AM
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Just a note on the Mazda Remanufactured engines...
Vehicle: 2004 RX-8 GT 4AT @ 146000km... Date of Manufacture: December 25, 2003. Date of First Service: November 17, 2004
Original engine started failing in early (march/april) 2012 (standard low power issues, progressed to hot start issues). Diagnostics included new plugs / wires / coils. Warranty expired November 2012. Mazda refused warranty replacement as all compression test results were marginally within specs (they, apparently, do not consider a single failed chamber as a failed engine). Replaced the starter in May 2013, which solved (masked) the hot start issue. Engine completely failed in November 2013. Last compression test on the engine two weeks before failure were (in Kgf/cm2) R1: 4.4, 4.6, 4.5 @250rpm and R2: 4.2, 4.2, 4.6 @250rpm.
Decided, after weighing the available options, to proceed with a Mazda remanufactured engine on January 2014. The first remanufactured engine was installed by January 20, 2014 at a cost of just less that $4800. During the old engine removal, it was discovered that the catalytic converter was clogged and was replaced (by an Wagner aftermarket unit @ $480) and that the rear engine/transmission harness was melted and burnt and was replaced (@ $1200). The dealer did not charge labour on the replacement of these parts, just the standard labour charges for the engine replacement (Mazda states 17 hours labour for engine replacement - This is what Mazda Canada will reimburse the dealer when an engine is replaced under warranty). Also installed new coils/plugs/wires under warranty (as the dealer held open the diagnostic from November, when all these parts were still under warranty). When the car was returned to me, the dealer had not done a compression test as they said that Mazda did not require one and the mechanic who worked on the car said that the car was operating extremely well.
On the initial test drive after getting the car back the vehicle was operating well... Plenty of power (as compared to the old engine before it died), smooth idle. However, once the engine had warmed up, it experienced a rattling sound under acceleration and hot start issues and was throwing DTCs (P0336 and P0368). Initial diagnostic included replacement of the ESPS, battery terminals and battery. Within two days the issue progressed to a hot crank/ no start issue (car required three or more crank cycles (15 seconds cranking, 10 seconds cooldown) to start when warm). Mazda finally authorized the compression test. Results (in Kgf/cm2): R1: 6.4, 6.8, 6.7 R2: 6.4, 6.4, 6.5 @ 250rpm. Mazda authorized engine replacement.
Second engine replacement was completed February 12. Dealer did installation and initial break-in (where the engine is run at idle for 45 minutes after installation) then did a compression test. Results: R1: 6.4, 6.9, 6.8 @250rpm R2: 6.7, 6.4, 6.5 @250rpm. Results were reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Operate vehicle through 1500KM break-in keeping RPM under 5000 and retest. Vehicle driven 1650 KMs, vehicle experienced rattling under acceleration, lack of power, slow throttle response. Compression retested. Results: R1: 8.2, 8.3, 8.4 @250rpm R2: 6.8, 6.9, 6.9 @250rpm. These results, although very good for the front rotor, indicate a fail due to rotor difference and due to Mazda's stated specs for a remanufactured engine (apparently the compression standard for a reman is 7.1 - 7.5). Results reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Test OMP and oil nozzles and retest. (The dealer's service advisor and the mechanic both commented that this is a waste of time.. If the OMP was completely inoperative, damage to the engine should not occur within the initial break-in or the first 2000km and the OMP and nozzles are tested and inspected as part of the engine replacement - This could be Mazda looking for a reason to deny warranty) Vehicle OMP and oil nozzles tested and found to be operating within specifications. Compression retested. Results: R1: 6.7, 6.7, 6.9 R2: 6.7, 6.9, 6.9. Results reported to Mazda. Still waiting for Mazda's response.
The lessons:
1) Deciding to go with a Mazda Remanufactured engine installed at a Mazda dealer, does not mean that you will have a trouble free experience.
2) Make sure that the dealer doing the install keeps the work order for you service open until you are satisfied that the new engine is operating correctly and has acceptable compression. Your new engine warranty of 12 months/ 20000 Kms does not start until the work order is closed and is based on the milage recorded on the work order at that time. (which means that, in my case, even though it has been six weeks and almost 2300kms since I authorized the dealer to replace the engine, all the extra diagnostic is covered by Mazda under warranty, but the warranty clock has not yet started to run down and will not start to run down until I have an engine that is within specs and is operating normally)
3) When paying your dealer for the service, use a credit card (visa/MasterCard, etc) and retain copies of all test results, so that if Mazda does not do the right thing you will still have some recourse. Most credit cards will allow you to file a chargeback within three to six months of the transaction, in the case of a merchant (Mazda) supplying defective parts and refusing to provide warranty support.
FOR THE RECORD: The dealer performing the service has been excellent and I am MORE than pleased with the service I am receiving from them.
Vehicle: 2004 RX-8 GT 4AT @ 146000km... Date of Manufacture: December 25, 2003. Date of First Service: November 17, 2004
Original engine started failing in early (march/april) 2012 (standard low power issues, progressed to hot start issues). Diagnostics included new plugs / wires / coils. Warranty expired November 2012. Mazda refused warranty replacement as all compression test results were marginally within specs (they, apparently, do not consider a single failed chamber as a failed engine). Replaced the starter in May 2013, which solved (masked) the hot start issue. Engine completely failed in November 2013. Last compression test on the engine two weeks before failure were (in Kgf/cm2) R1: 4.4, 4.6, 4.5 @250rpm and R2: 4.2, 4.2, 4.6 @250rpm.
Decided, after weighing the available options, to proceed with a Mazda remanufactured engine on January 2014. The first remanufactured engine was installed by January 20, 2014 at a cost of just less that $4800. During the old engine removal, it was discovered that the catalytic converter was clogged and was replaced (by an Wagner aftermarket unit @ $480) and that the rear engine/transmission harness was melted and burnt and was replaced (@ $1200). The dealer did not charge labour on the replacement of these parts, just the standard labour charges for the engine replacement (Mazda states 17 hours labour for engine replacement - This is what Mazda Canada will reimburse the dealer when an engine is replaced under warranty). Also installed new coils/plugs/wires under warranty (as the dealer held open the diagnostic from November, when all these parts were still under warranty). When the car was returned to me, the dealer had not done a compression test as they said that Mazda did not require one and the mechanic who worked on the car said that the car was operating extremely well.
On the initial test drive after getting the car back the vehicle was operating well... Plenty of power (as compared to the old engine before it died), smooth idle. However, once the engine had warmed up, it experienced a rattling sound under acceleration and hot start issues and was throwing DTCs (P0336 and P0368). Initial diagnostic included replacement of the ESPS, battery terminals and battery. Within two days the issue progressed to a hot crank/ no start issue (car required three or more crank cycles (15 seconds cranking, 10 seconds cooldown) to start when warm). Mazda finally authorized the compression test. Results (in Kgf/cm2): R1: 6.4, 6.8, 6.7 R2: 6.4, 6.4, 6.5 @ 250rpm. Mazda authorized engine replacement.
Second engine replacement was completed February 12. Dealer did installation and initial break-in (where the engine is run at idle for 45 minutes after installation) then did a compression test. Results: R1: 6.4, 6.9, 6.8 @250rpm R2: 6.7, 6.4, 6.5 @250rpm. Results were reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Operate vehicle through 1500KM break-in keeping RPM under 5000 and retest. Vehicle driven 1650 KMs, vehicle experienced rattling under acceleration, lack of power, slow throttle response. Compression retested. Results: R1: 8.2, 8.3, 8.4 @250rpm R2: 6.8, 6.9, 6.9 @250rpm. These results, although very good for the front rotor, indicate a fail due to rotor difference and due to Mazda's stated specs for a remanufactured engine (apparently the compression standard for a reman is 7.1 - 7.5). Results reported to Mazda. Mazda's response: Test OMP and oil nozzles and retest. (The dealer's service advisor and the mechanic both commented that this is a waste of time.. If the OMP was completely inoperative, damage to the engine should not occur within the initial break-in or the first 2000km and the OMP and nozzles are tested and inspected as part of the engine replacement - This could be Mazda looking for a reason to deny warranty) Vehicle OMP and oil nozzles tested and found to be operating within specifications. Compression retested. Results: R1: 6.7, 6.7, 6.9 R2: 6.7, 6.9, 6.9. Results reported to Mazda. Still waiting for Mazda's response.
The lessons:
1) Deciding to go with a Mazda Remanufactured engine installed at a Mazda dealer, does not mean that you will have a trouble free experience.
2) Make sure that the dealer doing the install keeps the work order for you service open until you are satisfied that the new engine is operating correctly and has acceptable compression. Your new engine warranty of 12 months/ 20000 Kms does not start until the work order is closed and is based on the milage recorded on the work order at that time. (which means that, in my case, even though it has been six weeks and almost 2300kms since I authorized the dealer to replace the engine, all the extra diagnostic is covered by Mazda under warranty, but the warranty clock has not yet started to run down and will not start to run down until I have an engine that is within specs and is operating normally)
3) When paying your dealer for the service, use a credit card (visa/MasterCard, etc) and retain copies of all test results, so that if Mazda does not do the right thing you will still have some recourse. Most credit cards will allow you to file a chargeback within three to six months of the transaction, in the case of a merchant (Mazda) supplying defective parts and refusing to provide warranty support.
FOR THE RECORD: The dealer performing the service has been excellent and I am MORE than pleased with the service I am receiving from them.
Thanks for sharing bro! Sorry you went through all that. Helps the rest of us in the future!
03-09-2014, 06:25 AM
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Update:
Feb 24: Mazda requested a new BARO Voltage test using a new method that the dealer had never seen before. Results reported to Mazda. (original test: 3.43V, special procedure: 3.13V)
Feb 27: Mazda approved engine replacement.
Mar 5: New engine arrived (weather delayed shipment). Mechanic found a brittle OMP oil line during old engine removal. Dealer ordered part and covered the cost.
Mar 7: Third engine installed in car. Initial break-in and compression test done. Results - R1: 6.9, 7.0,7.4 R2: 7.0, 7.4, 7.4. Engine runs well, smooth idle, has adequate power. Throws P0302 CEL (Rotor 2 misfire) under moderate acceleration and heavy deceleration. Heavy knock under acceleration.
Here we go again.... 8-{
03-09-2014, 06:54 AM
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If you don't fix the underlying problem, it may happen again. Having said that, it could just be noise but I would have it looked into at least.
On another note, Mazda has finally raised the price of their reman core engines. About $3,400 with tax now just for the core. Looks like I'll be rebuilding engines a lot more often now as its no longer cheaper to just put a reman in.
thewird
On another note, Mazda has finally raised the price of their reman core engines. About $3,400 with tax now just for the core. Looks like I'll be rebuilding engines a lot more often now as its no longer cheaper to just put a reman in.
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03-09-2014, 05:33 PM
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What would you suggest, other than bad engines, as an explanation for engines that don't meet the manufacturers own (very low) specs?
The vehicle has had: New coils, new plugs, new wires, new ESS, new CAT, new rear wiring harness, new front and rear HO2S, new knock sensor, new OMP oil tube (all since January), new MAF/IAT, new battery (July 2013 - tested several times since), and new starter (july 2013)... They have tested and eliminated problems with: PCM, ECT sensor, SSV, Secondary air system, throttle body, intake system, fuel pump, fuel injectors, water pump, cooling system, OMP system, A/C compressor and clutch, TCM, transmission.
The mechanics (Technicians) have been through every Mazda provided diagnostic procedure. Each time they get to the point in the procedure that states: "Overhaul or replace the engine".
The only DTC codes that have been generated were P0368 (first replacement engine) and P0302 (third replacement engine). Even the original engine with extremely low compression did not misfire or knock under acceleration.
What other possibility could possibly account for engines provided by Mazda being consistently below specs?
(No... I am not trying to be sarcastic. I would genuinely appreciate any revelations you could provide)
03-12-2014, 12:11 PM
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So Mazda Canada have finally raised the price? Might have something to do with the falling exchange rate. I just bought a reman engine in Jan 2014 and it was still $2500 CAD.
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Don't think so, the states did it last year so Mazda probably waited until the next fiscal year for the update maybe or they had a stockpile at the old price, who knows.
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Dammit, looks like I just missed it. Called around and all engines have gone up to $3k plus taxes.
But after hearing the story above, I don't know if getting a reman engine from Mazda would be a good thing, if I'm going to install it myself. I may get a junk engine like above, but since I intend to install it myself, warranty may not apply. And would be a pain in the *** to try and get a replacement.
I guess its time to look for other options
But after hearing the story above, I don't know if getting a reman engine from Mazda would be a good thing, if I'm going to install it myself. I may get a junk engine like above, but since I intend to install it myself, warranty may not apply. And would be a pain in the *** to try and get a replacement.
I guess its time to look for other options
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03-17-2014, 04:40 AM
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Even after 3 "new" engines... I still have a marginal engine... retest after 1500km breakin was R1: 7.0, 7.1, 7.1 R2: 7.2, 7.4, 7.4... (BTW: The P0302 code was caused by the tech forgetting to reset the ESS profile after the last compression test! One little boo-boo in three engine swaps I can forgive 8-} ). Mazda (warranty department) says "engine is good"... I say that a reman should have a nominal compression of at least 50% of a new engine... dealer agrees and has asked Mazda (parts department) for the nominal specifications for a remanufactured engine... So after 9 weeks and $6K (Engine + harness + cat), I still have a low compression engine and I'm still fighting with Mazda...
Using the original engine as a guide... The compression should drop to the point of needing a fouth "new" engine by July.
Bottom line... If I had parted the car out, or sold it as a parts car, I would be much further ahead... and a lot happier...
Well... That accounts for the missing engine 8-}. On January 10, the Mazda inventory was 7 units (All in TO). As of March 7, there were 2 in Vancouver, 1 in Toronto and 3 had been shipped to my dealer in Calgary. BTW... What were the compression readings on your reman??
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Hmm this is making me rethink my decision. Pretty much decided to sell the car, but I like it too much, so thought i'd keep it.
I just realized your from Calgary, did you consider rx7specialties?
I'll have to see what they offer as for warranty If I install.
Also ill see what thewird comes back with for pricing.
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Well... That accounts for the missing engine 8-}. On January 10, the Mazda inventory was 7 units (All in TO). As of March 7, there were 2 in Vancouver, 1 in Toronto and 3 had been shipped to my dealer in Calgary. BTW... What were the compression readings on your reman??
The rear half of my car is just about to snap off from rust like a Protege5, so when the second engine go I'll probably junk the car.
I just saw your original message, funny our original engines were basically failing in the same manner at the exact same mileage. Mine was an August 2004. Started having issue in early 2012 at around 120k. I limped it around for another 25k until it really started to lose power.
As long as you don't thrash on this engine, it will limp along for a long long time after it's worn out. If anyone here is getting up there in mileage and not planning to sink $5k into another engine, watch for the telltale sign of random misfiring and stumbling at high rpms. That's your cue to get out.
Last edited by climacus; 03-20-2014 at 11:03 AM.
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