rx8thunder

Please someone talk me out of it!

I know it's just a phase I'm going through, right?

Scared to death of turbo but the allure of a bit more juice is very appealing.

Everyone "in the know" tells me I won't blow up my engine but should I really believe that? What about over powering my transmission or diff?

What say you? Help me with some perspective...

laythor

if you have 15k that you don't mind spending then go for it.

REV-illusions

iTrader: (3)

DOOOOO IIIITTTTT!!! You're looking for power... n well.... that's the direct route. 15k is a tad high. As long as you get the turbo installed properly and maintained i doubt you'll have too many issues.

rx8thunder

$15k? What did you base that number on?

prospectjtaz

iTrader: (1)

Honestly Scott, I would talk with mysql. Things to consider, you have both the Mazsport Ignition Mod and the Cobb, and you just dynoed at 204 HP.

Now your adding a BHR Turbo Kit (assuming your going with this), what are the ball park figures for HP on this?

I feel that you might want to shell out the little extra for the Mazsport upgraded trasmission upgrade as a fail safe.

I stopped reading much into the Mazsport Ignition Mod, but arent there also dwell settings that you would have to be concerned about?

Other than that, if you want real power, turbo is the way. But with turbo, more things are likely to break, and you always gotta make sure everything is tight and working prime.

eviltwinkie

Rotaries and Snails were made for each other...

Seek ye teh BHR Solution...

rx8thunder

Would probably go with either MM upgrade kit (with used greddy kit) or with full BHR minus the Cobb, as I already have it. I wonder what HP/torque level puts transmission into danger zone? The dwell settings would get set by MM if I went for this because he would tune it for sure -- would have to fly him back here for tune and install (WCS and I would split his travel cost).

laythor

15k was broken down into:

cost of gauges
cost of turbo kit
cost of ecu flash / ap / piggyback
cost of engine upgrades
cost of exhaust upgrades
cost of new core (just in case)

Lots of people have down a turbo install cheap... and almost the same number have given us all great part out deals when their car went boom.

15k is a nice number to factor in most contingencies

mysql

It's usually $cost of kit plus 2k to 4k more.

rx8thunder

Thanks for the feedback on costs guys.

Issues with turbos and winter?

mysql

yeah... I guess you could call it an issue. You'll make more power when it's colder out.

rx8thunder

Any advice on which kit? Components?

Thumper3322

Do IT!!!!!!!!!! I want to do it down the road

Personally I was thinking about the greddy and the MM upgrade, but after greddy going out of business, no to sure

Kafka

Greddy USA is still operating, and Actually Greddy Japan is just undergoing restructing ala APEXi a few years ago...

No worries man. Just stop buying Chinese / N.America knockoffs :P

Thumper3322

Would hate to buy it and then they completely go under and can't get any support or parts. That would suck!

Kris

Scott,

To me it depends on how long you plan on keeping the car for. If i remember correctly you purchased it slightly used. Judging from the mods you have already and if you buy the turbo, im pretty sure youre getting up there with the money you spent in the car.

If you are going to drive it into the ground, than i would say go for it. Having the additional ponies definately doesnt hurt. With a conservative tune, im sure you will have years of worry free driving. However we all know that going FI does put additional stress on stock components its a risk, you just have to be prepared to shell out the money to fix things if they break pre maturely.

I have several close friends with turbo'd honda's and they have no problem in the winter.

Smokin_LaLa

Yo If you want to Turbo your car I would highly recommend you to talk to RotaryGod he is very knowledgeable about this issue...he usually posts in the lounge

Agent008

Scott,

Have you ruled out the Pettit SC (http://www.pettitracing.com/)? If so why?

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

please don't take this the wrong way but if you're actually asking this: You have not done your homework and are not ready for FI
Go look at the dyno comparison threads
Read up on each individual kit
talk to owners who HAVE the kits installed


What is your goal?
how much horsepower are you looking for? how about passing smog? what are laws in your area? You should be looking into all of these aspects.

much reading you have ahead of you.

01Racing

Guys (and girls) without going into the engine, replacing the apex seals with ceramic etc (cost about $1300.00 per rotor) you cant run any big boost number without blowing it up. You might 20-40 rwhp at best, which makes your cost per horsepower a huge investment. Superchargers take 20% power off the bottom to make power higher up, usually not a good combination with a torque-less engine. Internal porting and mods will be your best bang for the buck, and not hurt longevity!

Thumper3322

Where can you get that done?

Thx for the insight!

01Racing

Mazmark auto 416-751-0071 (no website) ask for Mark.

Thumper3322

Great thx!

rx8thunder

How much power can this generate to the wheels?

rx8thunder

I agree, I do have some reading ahead of me.

Goal is to increase HP to about 280 -300 (at 204 now) and torque to 200+ without negatively impacting reliability. Also, I must be able to pass emission laws because I don't know who I need to bribe