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Old 12-20-2008 | 06:11 PM
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Say hi to Frank for me, he is a great guy!

btw: Yokohama's suck (lol) Blizzaks all the way baby, or if need be Michelin Artic Alpins
no way yokos rock. my Iceguards are amazing. I'll admit, if price wasnt an issue, i would definitly be on blizzaks, but for the winter performance the yokes deliver for the price, you cant argue with them. dont get me started on the artic alpins...

and yeah, frank is a great guy. ill pass on the greating when i see him next.

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Old 12-20-2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Racing
Say hi to Frank for me, he is a great guy!

btw: Yokohama's suck (lol) Blizzaks all the way baby, or if need be Michelin Artic Alpins
Hankook Icebears are pretty good too.
Old 12-21-2008 | 03:15 PM
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I'm actually surprised some of you got beached?! Weird. Were you guys lowered?
With 225/45/17 (shoulda gone 55's) I'm loosing near an inch in height stock, so yeah, I got beached a few times with 15 cm of the blowing stuff, usually worst around intersectons or unplowed roads.
Old 12-22-2008 | 08:37 AM
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So glad my car is parked. It would be a complete snowplow right now.
+1 Storing the car for the winter FTW!!!
Old 12-22-2008 | 09:08 AM
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Josh how are the Michelin Artic Alpins in the snow?!
The Michelin are ok...but I don't have winter RWD driving experience...its definitely worse than FWD lol

BUT I DO LOVE THE DRIFTING...and its easily controlled.

So I guess its good
Old 12-22-2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygreg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npTRX...eature=related

i saw this last year, but its worth a watch this year to remind everyone to drive safe and if the roads are that bad, it not worth going out. its really erie to say the least. it would be funny if i thought it couldnt happen to me...but i dont laugh, because what goes around comes around. something has to be said about the first driver in the SUV that is obviously on the gas, thinking he can just gas out of anything. people...

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LOL...that's a crazy video, that one suv kept running into ppl, they must have been knocked with their foot on the gas or something.

Originally Posted by BrownCow67
My completely stock '04 does the high/low thing for about a minute when I fire it up in the extreme cold. Then, as you say, it just sorts itself out.
So it isn't the CAI...good to know. It's weird, our cars hate the cold as do I! So we get along great.

Originally Posted by hippak
After work today Calgary's temp was around -28 to -35 with windchill. My car did the same thing. Has done that the last few times it gets really cold. Nothing to worry about.

I'm in the GTA now. Took a flight back at around 4pm... beautiful weather we have over here
Originally Posted by rotarygreg
so marc, i had this happen to my car thismorning. i got in, fired it up as normal and the revs went up and down for about 20-30 seconds. thing is...every time it reved up then let off, it popped. really loudly actually. ive been noticing my car does pop quite a bit when you let off the gas now until its warmed up, then it wont pop at all. but just like yours, it sorted itself out pretty quickly. i noticed the temp was -18 though when i started it. it hasnt been taht cold here yet so im assuming its just the cold weather and nothing else. after work it didnt do the rev thing and it was like -10 then so...

Greg
Thx for the other post Greg. Was gonna respond to it until I read this one. Guess it is just the 8. I hate hearing it rev like that, doesn't sound healthy. So I tried holding my clutch in and guess what...it stops it from reving up and down. I have it figured, hold the clutch in till the rpms drop to about 1500 and then you can let the clutch out without the high/low revs. Mine never popped, so not sure what that's about. Could be carbon build up. It only seems to be about -10 or so when it does this.

Originally Posted by 01Racing
Say hi to Frank for me, he is a great guy!

btw: Yokohama's suck (lol) Blizzaks all the way baby, or if need be Michelin Artic Alpins
Blizzaks for sure!!

Originally Posted by 9291150
With 225/45/17 (shoulda gone 55's) I'm loosing near an inch in height stock, so yeah, I got beached a few times with 15 cm of the blowing stuff, usually worst around intersectons or unplowed roads.
Dude get 215/55/17's increase ride height a bit and might help ya out. Just PLOW your way thru that ****. I hate doing it, but what other choice does one have, other than take the bus (Thief) *** dat, this guy doesn't take the bus.
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The high low revving thing......my cars likes to do it too when it is minus 15 or lower
Old 12-22-2008 | 10:24 AM
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The high low revving thing......my cars likes to do it too when it is minus 15 or lower
This seems pretty standard across the board. Weird! Anyone know if this is bad for the car, or exactly why it is happening? solution/fix or just ignore it?

I hate drivin my 8 in the winter I worry about it to much. Might have to get a beater next year.
Old 12-22-2008 | 10:29 AM
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This seems pretty standard across the board. Weird! Anyone know if this is bad for the car, or exactly why it is happening? solution/fix or just ignore it?

I hate drivin my 8 in the winter I worry about it to much. Might have to get a beater next year.
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Old 12-22-2008 | 10:48 AM
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Mine does not do any of those symptoms you guys mentioned; I have the MS CAI... ask Eric from Sauga too for his experience.
Old 12-22-2008 | 10:49 AM
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HAHA!! true dat...not sure which is more expensive as well! They are both very temperamental lol.
Old 12-22-2008 | 12:23 PM
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I got high revving at start up ONLY on the day when I parked my car for over 8 hours in GO Trasit parking lot out in the open....cold and windy.

It comes down to normal after 5sec or so...
Old 12-22-2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper3322
This seems pretty standard across the board. Weird! Anyone know if this is bad for the car, or exactly why it is happening? solution/fix or just ignore it?
Here is my guess (I had the up/down rev problem twice in very cold weather).

The ECU is trying to keep the REVS at a given point so that it does not stall when the engine is cold. In normal conditions my car likes to keep the REVS above 1500 RPM until it get a bit of heat into the engine.

In extreme cold it's harder to keep the engine idling at 1500+ rpm, so the ECU gives the engine a bit more gas, then the rpm rises well above 1500 so it tries to ease off the gas, but now it falls below 1500 so it needs to up the gas again. This cycle continues until the engine is warm enough to maintain 1500 rpm with the lower gas setting.

I find that the problem is harder to hit if you be sure to keep your foot on the clutch peddle while it warms up for a min. The extra load of moving some transmission parts through heavy transmission oil adds to the problem. I also found that using a good quality synthetic transmission oil helped a lot if you don't want to keep the clutch pressed.

So, I think this is a harmless bug in the ECU. Mazda just didn't test the coldest conditions when they were programming the ECU. Another example that suggest Mazda did not test in cold enough weather, the E-Break handle broke 3 times on me during cold weather before Mazda finally redesigned it.
Old 12-22-2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Footman
Mine does not do any of those symptoms you guys mentioned; I have the MS CAI... ask Eric from Sauga too for his experience.
Newer 8 might be why. Seems 04 or 05 have the problem.

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Here is my guess (I had the up/down rev problem twice in very cold weather).

So, I think this is a harmless bug in the ECU. Mazda just didn't test the coldest conditions when they were programming the ECU. Another example that suggest Mazda did not test in cold enough weather, the E-Break handle broke 3 times on me during cold weather before Mazda finally redesigned it.
Good points Agent, makes sense. Think I will be doing fluids next year in hopes to prevent this. Would do them now...but *** dat it's way to cold for that.
Old 12-22-2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper3322
Newer 8 might be why. Seems 04 or 05 have the problem.
My 04 doesn't have that particular issue... many others.. just not that one.

Originally Posted by Kafka
The Michelin are ok...but I don't have winter RWD driving experience...its definitely worse than FWD lol

BUT I DO LOVE THE DRIFTING...and its easily controlled.

So I guess its good
The Aplin's aren't too bad... they suck in the light slush but they're great in anything over an inch (as long as it's not more then 6 or the car begins to force feed the rad snow)
Old 12-22-2008 | 05:50 PM
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marc, dont count on the tranny fluid solving this. i put in redline synthetic just before the winter and ive had this issue.

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Old 12-22-2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownCow67
My completely stock '04 does the high/low thing for about a minute when I fire it up in the extreme cold. Then, as you say, it just sorts itself out.
^^^Mine too. ^^^

As for getting stuck, not yet. I've got the Blizzak LM-22s. Actually drove from Ottawa to Kingston in that hellstorm on Friday night. Car handles surprisingly well, which is a huge relief since that was my biggest fear when making the decision to buy the 8 (winter driving) after previously owning a Jeep Liberty.
Old 12-22-2008 | 11:31 PM
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Another thing that might have helped me eliminate this problem for my car is pre-mixing. Adding 4oz of pre-mix oil to a tank of gas may be adding enough lubrication such that the engine does not have to work as hard to keep the engine going at 1500 rpm after starting on cold days.
Old 12-23-2008 | 09:31 AM
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So seems to be a hit and miss with our cars weird. Started up last night -10 no probs. Guess it's more when it's really cold with windchill and sits for awhile. Will just live with it I guess.

Thx Agent, but I'm not doin the pre-mixing thing, I have read to many different opinions on it.
Old 12-23-2008 | 10:56 AM
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Thx Agent, but I'm not doin the pre-mixing thing, I have read to many different opinions on it.
I am not sure why some people are so against pre-mixing. I have been pre-mixing for more then a year now and I have never had any issues with the engine since.

No hard-start problem.
No rough idling problems.
No compression loss problems.

Before pre-mixing I has all of these problems. I can't say for sure that pre-mixing is what fixed the problems, but it seems likely to me, in any case it didn't hurt anything.
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^ never premixed, never had those problems either.
Old 12-24-2008 | 08:54 AM
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I hate snowplowing thru a bank of snow that was just plowed I feel so bad for my car and makes me hurt inside. Beater next year for sure. I hate doing this to my car with the way our winters are now. When I bought it Nov. '07 winters before that for a long time were a joke, now we get pounded with snow I like snow, but not for shoveling and especially not for my 8.

Cheers!! and Merry Christmas RX8 Clan!

P.S. if anyone gets need for speed Underground for PS3 let me know got an early present and I will take your *** down. The silver 8 on it is sick!
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My 05 does the same high/low rev when its really cold outside. If you just give the gas a lil tap it usually settles down to about 2.5krpm and stays there.
Old 12-24-2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gecko_8
My 05 does the same high/low rev when its really cold outside. If you just give the gas a lil tap it usually settles down to about 2.5krpm and stays there.
Cool will give that a try.
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