Shamblerock

Purchase winter rims and tires installed and balanced this morning from Mississauga Tire Centre on 2403 Stanfield Rd, Mississauga, Ontario. Here are the details (all prices in Canadian dollars) :


Rims - RTX F120 = $140 X 4 = $ 560

Tires - Michelin Pilot Alpine PA2 225/50/17 V rated = $255 X 4 = $1,020

Misc . Accessories = $ 10

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$1,590
PST & GST 239
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Grand Total $1,829


If you are interested, make sure you contact Lou 905-848-3500 and speak to no one else because he's the only guy that knows of the RX-8 club and I told him others will call. You should get the exact same price or better. Tell him Ray sent you. Let me know how it goes.

Mississauga Tire does all the OPP, government vehicles etc. They install with serious care and caution and I was really pleased. V ery professional outfit!

Here is what the rims look like:

CrackerJax

thanks shamblerock. i was just hoping someone else would do the dirty work, and I'd just come in from behind and reap all the glory and benefits of any deals to be had

This price is pretty reasonable even compared to tires/rims purchased outside of the province to save PST. I'm still contemplaiting on driving the 8 all year round, or putting her away for the winter and getting a beater instead. It's sort of like enjoying lobster and steak all summer, then when winter comes, you're eating kraft dinner.

hopefully we got a couple of months left..... fingers X

apaul

Not many details to pass on~

Hankooks P235/50R17 + Mag rims. Installed and balanced $1500.. c/w taxes $1725.00
With Toyo GARIT HT's + Mag rims $1800 c/W taxes $2070.00

Whitby Mazda

Shamblerock

I think Garit and the hankooks are only H rated, just in case this was an important piece of information in your decision. Furthermore, 235 will throw out the height from the stock tires.

RotorWheeee

I just got a price from Superior tire is Scarborough( 416-291-7175) $1966.27 including tax and instalation, no additional hardware required (just found out some rims require different harware from the stock)
RTX 211 rims ( looks very simalar to what Shamberock posted) and Toyo Garit HT tires . An additional reduction of $50 if purchased by the 23rd ( might be able be extended this a bit)

If interesrted ask for Steve tell him Ken sent you from the RX8club.

RotorWheeee

From what i found the Michelin Pilot Alpine PA2 is also H rated . Mind you 210 Kph on a snow tire is more then I need:D

Shamblerock

Rotorweee, the michelins come in 2 versions, H rated which are aparently not available in stock at the Michelin warehouse and the V rated which are in stock. Price club and Canadian tire both have the H rated on their screens but advised that they would take about a week to get them in. My guy said that the H rated tire will likely not make it to Canada this winter because thats what he was told by Michelin. I kind of trust my guy because he does zillions of cars and does all the police cars and government vehicle for Peel. Also the V rated are specially reinforced on the sides whereas the H rated are not.

I guess I'll have to buy you a drink the next time we meet because of the extra $130 dollars I saved on my set

In any event, your right about not needing more than H rated in the winter but I am more comfortable with the V's. TRust me, I had pilot alpines before and they are dynamite :D

RotorWheeee

No problem , I'm leaning toward the Toyo only because on past experiences with Michelin and Toyo , mind you it was for nothing like the RX. Like your self there something to be said for convience of a local purchase (I'll have to get the wife to hump the off season tire around, 4 "spare tires" won't fit in the 8 to get them home)

All that said I'll still let you buy me a drink with your savings:D

apaul

THis Forum is so great! Thanks Shamblerock and Rotorwheee. I think, Rob, at Whitby Mazda is favouring the Toyo's as he faxed a page of tech data along with the quote. Maybe I can bargain a little bit on the price knowing your Superior deal, Ken.
Need to act soon.

[I do have an extra 'in' or bonus in that they will store my OEM's for the winter n/c, as they did for my Miata for five years].

Thanks again, guys..

Shamblerock

Roto, I brought all 4 winter tires and rims home in my RX 8; 1 in the trunk, 2 behind the passenger seat in the back and one behind driver's seat in the back. Seriously, I could have put all 4 in the back seat if I need to. I basically put a blanket over the centre console in the back and laid them on an angle stacked 2 high.

Gord96BRG

Side note - the Hankook 235s will be wider than the OEM 225/45-18s. For winter tires, you really want narrower, but I'd personally avoid going wider if I had alternatives. A 225/50-17 is a good size choice, as are 215/55-17s. There's enough different tires available in those two sizes that you shouldn't have to compromise by moving 'down' to a 235/50-17.

Regards,
Gordon

apaul

Thanks, Gord. Printed your good advice^^^ & will speak with the Parts Mgr. today.

[Whew! Thing are getting a little rough in the 'Feud thread'].

ChrisP

RTX F120 and Toyo Garit HT 225/50R17 94H fitted yesterday by Superior Tire (Rotorwheeee, I suspect it was you who had a chance to look at the F120s).

The invoice totals $2187.07 - due to the F120 price which is a more that Shamblerock's Mississauga Tire Centre quote (by quite a lot!).

I have been a customer of Superior Tire's for nearly the last 20 years, so content to pay a premium for their service. Steve researched the rim possibilities himself and he and Danny (the tech) have treated my 8 like they would their own. We started by test fitting a couple of different types of rim, then tried the F120 when it came in - so the 8 has been up on the hoist 3 times for this.

With apologies for the pic quality (we still have a steam driven camera and "someone" wanted to finish off the roll yesterday) and with hopes that my first posted pic works, this is what the rims look like fitted. The Toyos ride much more softly than the OEMs - which is nice for my aching joints!

RotorWheeee

Yup That would be me . I had a look at the RTX 120's that Steve had layed out for your car ( nice). I was quoted on the RTX 220's due to a question around the 120's availability.

So are the tires nice... quiet and grippy?

[QUOTE=ChrisP]RTX F120 and Toyo Garit HT 225/50R17 94H fitted yesterday by Superior Tire (Rotorwheeee, I suspect it was you who had a chance to look at the F120s).

The invoice totals $2187.07 - due to the F120 price which is a more that Shamblerock's Mississauga Tire Centre quote (by quite a lot!).

ChrisP

I haven't actually driven with them much yet. I spent most of yesterday cleaning/polishing the OEM rims before putting them away, cleaning the 8 (despite the picture, it was "not clean") and polishing the new rims. The other half thinks I'm nuts - but she did come to Superior tire with the Golf to bring back the OEMs - sweetheart!
On balance I would say that the Toyos are a little bit more noisy than the OEMs, give plenty of grip and ride more comfortably. They certainly smooth out the bumps on the roads around here. There's a section of Morningside between Ellesmere and the 401 that used to make my Blizzaks "sing". It'll be interesting trying the Toyos on that.

ChrisP

By the way, the Toyos are uni-directional. I don't think I've ever had tires that say Left and Right on them before!

And you know I just had to check all round when I spotted the first one - Danny got it right

Shamblerock

Chris P: Congrats on the winter set up. Hope you enjoy and have safe travels with them. But I got to say, the Toyo are $25 cheaper per tire (see tiretrend.com) less expensive than the Michelin Pilot Alpine pa2 V rated and your package price came to over $350 more! Net, net that $450 difference. I know you have a long standing relationship with Superior, but you could have shown him my quote and I am sure he would have matched the price. Afterall, I have the same exact rims (by the way they look stunning on your car). I just hope he's that good to you to pay such a premium! I just want as many people as possible to benefit from my efforts in finding the best price I could for the group and if someone found a better price, great! But again, it would be a 50KM haul to come from all the way in the east end to get the package I got at the price I got them. So I guess I understand.

By the way, you know that you could have carried all 4 OEM rims and tires back with you (3 in the back seat and 1 in the trunk). I did without any issues and actually had room for one more tire on the back seat!

Again, good luck with your package.

ChrisP

Well fellow enthusiasts, by putting the winters on this weekend at least two of us have obviously appeased the weather gods. It was positively balmy out there this morning.

After the drive to work I don't think the Toyos are noisier - they just seem to respond differently on the different types of asphalt. They are much more comfortable over rough surfaces and speed bumps. They are, however, squishier (sorry about the technical term) when cornering. I would assume that's from the higher profile and softer compound/less rigid sidewall.

...and let's just say that my price is probably going to be the "high" price

Danielson

[B]Hello Everyone's, I'm a new member of RX8Club.com and I live in Trenton On. I'm assuming that all of you Guy's are driving your RX8 in the winter ? How come I never see one anywhere on the road last winter ?? I've been driving all over Ontario (as far as Windsor) and Quebec, and never have the opporturnuty (sorry French?!) to see one ??
I will back home in less than 3 weeks (overseas right now) and hope having a chance to meet someone else driving a RX8 on winter tires this winter ??

ChrisP

I think there'll be rather more this year than last.

ChrisP

I spoke to Steve at Superior Tire on Monday evening about the difference in rim price between themselves and Mississauga Tire Centre. As Steve said, "we don't claim to be the cheapest - just good". However, he also said that he would check back with his RTX rep.

I got a call from Steve today. I'm getting $33 plus tax per rim back. The price is still higher than Mississauga Tire, but you can't fault their service.

By the way, you folks have been gentle with me in my embarassment :o :o :o and I thank you!

Shamblerock

Good Job Chris. Hey, $150 back aint too shabby and is certainly better than a poke in the eye! Have a nice dinner with it! Glad to see the Mississauga Tire info worked for you in some way.

daddyg

hey there, ended up putting on the Pilot Alpin 225/50/17. Now i"m seeing that because they are not the exact match of the stock tires, it might not work the best?

Is this true?

Shamblerock

Daddy G, the dimensions of the tire are almosat the exact same width and hight as the stock wheel after all is said and done. There is a difference of about 2 mm in hight, that's it. This is as close as you are going to get if you go with 17". Going with 18" rims is going to cost you substantially more for rims and tires and your selection drops off significantly. Just put the Pilots on yesterday and they look great and feel even better. Real quiet and very nice response. Took it up to 160KM/h (100MPH) and they were smooth as silk. If you want to see what they look like on, let me know and I'll post a few pics.

daddyg

shamblerock. thanks.

i actually got the same ones you did, from Mississauga Tire. Lou sounded like a good guy. So far, no complaints, they seem great.
Just wasnt' sure if the different dimensions would cause any problems with the car, or TPMS or that.

thanks for the advice.