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Old 12-26-2007 | 04:45 AM
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18" Rims and Tyre Selection

Today, i went down with my agent to a Rims/Tyre shop called Kim Hoe to choose the 18" rims that they have promised for my 8.

The selection of rims are all from RM-Team rims and I have choosen rim #326 on the following link:
http://www.rm-teamrims.com/wheels/2008_page17.jpg

As for the tyres, the guys at the workshop says they will be providing Maxxis tyres with some kind of Silica compound.

Since I am no expert in such things, would like to hear from the folks here if the above package is good?
Please give your opinions/comments.

thks
Old 12-26-2007 | 05:41 AM
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What sort of feedback are you looking for? The rims I dont mind at all.

The tyres are probably a little better than nankangs, ie dont be expecting to be able to take corners like you are on high end Yoko's, etc.

The rims, are they 8"? What offset. Also what size tyre are you getting? ie 245/40?

Cheers

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Old 12-26-2007 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by auzoom
What sort of feedback are you looking for? The rims I dont mind at all.

The tyres are probably a little better than nankangs, ie dont be expecting to be able to take corners like you are on high end Yoko's, etc.

The rims, are they 8"? What offset. Also what size tyre are you getting? ie 245/40?

Cheers

Andrew

Frankly speaking, I am have no idea about rim/tyres specs and their performance at all.

i guess the main thing I am looking at in terms of Rims/tyres are:
- Asthetics: Must look good....haha
- Safety: Tyres must have good grips especially on wet/slippery roads
- Economics: Rims must be light and strong to save on Fuel

The rims i have selected are 18".

thks
Old 12-26-2007 | 07:09 AM
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For Decent Road Use:

Falken FK-452
Hankook Ventus RS2
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D3
Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001
Michelin Pilot Preceda
Yokohama Neova AD07
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Old 12-26-2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephy88
For Decent Road Use:

Falken FK-452
Hankook Ventus RS2
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D3
Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001
Michelin Pilot Preceda
Yokohama Neova AD07
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Below 2 more value for money

Kumho KU31- Reviews are that they are safe and grippy, almost as good as tyres twice their price.
Toyo T1R- Im using them, have yet run them in, but they are more quiet than stock potenza and seems that the wet grip better than the stock for now.
Old 12-26-2007 | 09:43 AM
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If God had meant man to have more than five spokes in his rims ....

But that's just me. Get whatever you like.
Old 12-26-2007 | 05:27 PM
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Sorry Huey52 but I gotta disagree. rhudayar, unfortunately you are looking at a brand of rim that is almost unknown. You are probably going to be dealing with reasonably heavy wheels. I looked at the rest of the catalogue and think I prefer #315 and possibly #313.

As for tyre choice, your selection could be much better. All the choices mentioned are a better wet weather choice...I can also vouch for the Toyo Proxes 4 (1 step down from the T1R0) in the wet.

Cheers

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Old 12-26-2007 | 06:00 PM
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Rays - G-games 99B http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/cgi-bin/...?modelName=99B



Tire should use Toyo Proxes T1R according to your requirement. Eagle F1 too noisy. P-Zero too expensive. But if you want long term economy, try Falken Ziex, thread wear 360 while others mostly 280.



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I'd have to disagree, you see those Ziex 512 were quite unpromising on my previous car.
Old 12-26-2007 | 06:07 PM
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The price tag from the link http://www.rm-teamrims.com/wheels/2008_page17.jpg seems to be a bit not worth it. If you want good price and good look, can PM wangan (one of rx8club member) or email him at lhl@stwangan.com

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Old 12-26-2007 | 06:10 PM
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I'd have to disagree, you see those Ziex 512 were quite unpromising on my previous car.
luckily I got myself a set of T1R 235/40. Thanks for letting me know .
Old 12-26-2007 | 08:19 PM
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Thanks Everyone for the feedback.
It is really useful information.

Hmm...Seems like my agent have given me the selection of the cheapest rim/tyre available in the market.... (sheesh.....common with PIs).

Guess my only option now is to trade in the rims/tyres for once I get my ride?

I have also read that Poh Heng is a good place for such deals and that Justin is the person to contact. But I have also read some reviews from newbies that Poh Heng can be quite daunting as well, especially when you know nuts about the tyre/rims market.

There is also another recommendation for Leong San to do the trade-in and rims/tyre upgrade where there is a nice showroom for newbies to make their selection. But of course, expect prices to be slightly higher than Poh Heng's.

Another idea how much I can trade-in my new and mostly unheard of rims/tyres for? A rough estimate? And what rims/tyres combination would be a good choice for value of money?

Take note that I am not looking for performance. I am only interested in:
- Asthetics: Must look good....haha
- Safety: Tyres must have good grips especially on wet/slippery roads
- Economics: Rims must be light and strong to save on Fuel

thks
Old 12-26-2007 | 08:32 PM
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Hi Bro!

Got ur ride liao iszit?

My personal preference is RM7612 but in black spokes & polish trims. If for asthetical reasons Deep Dish shd be nice. Unfortunately, i checked last time that this rim can't fix our ride leh.

Tyres recommend Neova AD07.

Cheers!
Old 12-26-2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf
Hi Bro!

Got ur ride liao iszit?

My personal preference is RM7612 but in black spokes & polish trims. If for asthetical reasons Deep Dish shd be nice. Unfortunately, i checked last time that this rim can't fix our ride leh.

Tyres recommend Neova AD07.

Cheers!

Have not gotten the ride yet. Awaiting registraion now.
Agent says should be ready by next week.
Will give you a call then for the fender strakes.

See ya then.
Old 12-26-2007 | 09:00 PM
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take cash from your PI...instead of getting those cheap freebies. those rims are really heavy...there are good and cheap japanese rims....take time to shop around. btw.....you believe in trade-in?
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AD07 is the best for dry road. But not wet.
Old 12-26-2007 | 09:28 PM
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Bro.. I have to say that Falken Ziex may be very afforable, but it is one of the worst tires to put on our rides.. poor wet road grip and terrible for dry road cornering.. I know coz I have them on my ride
Old 12-26-2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rhudayar
Thanks Everyone for the feedback.
It is really useful information.

Hmm...Seems like my agent have given me the selection of the cheapest rim/tyre available in the market.... (sheesh.....common with PIs).

Guess my only option now is to trade in the rims/tyres for once I get my ride?

I have also read that Poh Heng is a good place for such deals and that Justin is the person to contact. But I have also read some reviews from newbies that Poh Heng can be quite daunting as well, especially when you know nuts about the tyre/rims market.

There is also another recommendation for Leong San to do the trade-in and rims/tyre upgrade where there is a nice showroom for newbies to make their selection. But of course, expect prices to be slightly higher than Poh Heng's.

Another idea how much I can trade-in my new and mostly unheard of rims/tyres for? A rough estimate? And what rims/tyres combination would be a good choice for value of money?

Take note that I am not looking for performance. I am only interested in:
- Asthetics: Must look good....haha
- Safety: Tyres must have good grips especially on wet/slippery roads
- Economics: Rims must be light and strong to save on Fuel

thks
Bro, as mentioned in my sms to you.. Taiwan rims will have almost no trade in value. Your PI would have traded in your stock rims for you to change to the Taiwan rims you are looking at. If you want a wider selection outside, I recommend that you do not change with your dealer and trade in your stock rims outside. You should be able to get approx $300 - $400.

Having said that, you need to prepare to blow about $1500 - $2200 for Taiwan rims and $3000+ for Japanese rims. Price includes tyres and will vary according to the tyres you choose (prices estimated after trade-in). That means you will end up spending more out-of-pocket if you do not take the rims upgrade "freebie" from your PI.

My personal recommendation is to take what your PI gives first and change 6 - 12mths later after you have scratched yours rims and burnt your tyres (from getting used to your car and pushing its limits).

Out of what you want..
- Asthetics: Must look good....haha
> Its as good as it gets out of that list, since its a "freebie" and you will not need to spend more out-of-pocket if you take this from your PI. You can upgrade in the future when you have more time looking at other bros rides and learn whats available in aftermarket.

- Safety: Tyres must have good grips especially on wet/slippery roads
> You will have to compromise as you know you'll be getting the cheapest tyres from your PI. I'm using the Falken Ziex and its not exactly the safest tyres on wet/dry road.. but I have learnt the limits of my tyres and do not push them beyond that for safety reasons. Again like above, can upgrade later to better tyres..

- Economics: Rims must be light and strong to save on Fuel
> Taiwan rims are not as light and strong compared to Japanese rims.. but they are almost 50% cheaper. Impact to your fuel economy is not significant (in my opinion).

Hope this helps..
Old 12-26-2007 | 09:48 PM
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Bro.. I have to say that Falken Ziex may be very afforable, but it is one of the worst tires to put on our rides.. poor wet road grip and terrible for dry road cornering.. I know coz I have them on my ride



But never mind, you can trade in yours for T1R or something else
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My personal recommendation is to take what your PI gives first and change 6 - 12mths later after you have scratched yours rims and burnt your tyres (from getting used to your car and pushing its limits).
Smart guys always do this 100% agree.
Old 12-26-2007 | 09:53 PM
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But never mind, you can trade in yours for T1R or something else
Can meh? You mean just trade in the tyres only?? I have approx 4000km on them already.. will the shop take?
Old 12-26-2007 | 10:23 PM
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Need to be patient to find a shop willing to accept trade in. I trade in my tires in Kuantan. Front 235 P-zero (5% left) and rear 245 S Drive (85% left). Add RM1800 for 4 pcs new T1R + straighten the rims and installation. If just buy 1 piece, RM680 after discount. New Ziex from another shop asked for RM4xx.
Old 12-26-2007 | 10:26 PM
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Okie.. thanks for advice.. I'll see how lucky.. or patient I get!
Old 12-26-2007 | 11:56 PM
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Bro, as mentioned in my sms to you.. Taiwan rims will have almost no trade in value. Your PI would have traded in your stock rims for you to change to the Taiwan rims you are looking at. If you want a wider selection outside, I recommend that you do not change with your dealer and trade in your stock rims outside. You should be able to get approx $300 - $400.

Having said that, you need to prepare to blow about $1500 - $2200 for Taiwan rims and $3000+ for Japanese rims. Price includes tyres and will vary according to the tyres you choose (prices estimated after trade-in). That means you will end up spending more out-of-pocket if you do not take the rims upgrade "freebie" from your PI.

My personal recommendation is to take what your PI gives first and change 6 - 12mths later after you have scratched yours rims and burnt your tyres (from getting used to your car and pushing its limits).

Out of what you want..
- Asthetics: Must look good....haha
> Its as good as it gets out of that list, since its a "freebie" and you will not need to spend more out-of-pocket if you take this from your PI. You can upgrade in the future when you have more time looking at other bros rides and learn whats available in aftermarket.

- Safety: Tyres must have good grips especially on wet/slippery roads
> You will have to compromise as you know you'll be getting the cheapest tyres from your PI. I'm using the Falken Ziex and its not exactly the safest tyres on wet/dry road.. but I have learnt the limits of my tyres and do not push them beyond that for safety reasons. Again like above, can upgrade later to better tyres..

- Economics: Rims must be light and strong to save on Fuel
> Taiwan rims are not as light and strong compared to Japanese rims.. but they are almost 50% cheaper. Impact to your fuel economy is not significant (in my opinion).

Hope this helps..

Hey Fugu,

Thanks for the wealth of information.
And sorry about missing your call....i was in a demo with my customers...

See you soon...after i get back from KL.
Old 12-26-2007 | 11:59 PM
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Smart guys always do this 100% agree.

Yup, i think i will do exactly as fugu has advised. Ride out my rims/tyres for a few months and then change it later.

Thanks for the great advises.


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