Sorry bro, wish i could help but i dun really noe where to get this done...
coz i chose to live wif the heat since it doesn't really bother me unless
i leave the car idling for too long...maybe some of the bros here can
help u wif this one...

 

bro coupe07, thanks for the info given. i actually went down to their factory/warehouse together with my friends today. they show me a few dyno tests which truly stated the horsepower increase by at least 8hp.

a few of them conduct a load test and its indeed impressive. hmm.. is it due to the Nano technology ? heard from them saying that Nano technology is often used on space shuttle and submarine and now it comes down to cars.

Bro coupe07, guess u had just let me learnt something. its not just abt load test !! So, are u saying that texas oil can't burn completely in Rotary combustion chamber ? how to check if its really burnt out ? i just 5L of texas oil.. guess i shall not change after hearing this..

 

Did they use the same viscosity for all the test? A thick oil will bog down the engine; thus thinner oils should free up more torque. Just like swimming through mud and than water.

Nano is too over used. I am no scientist but how is nano tech applied to oils? Splitting a molecule of molybdenum so it does not get trap in oil filters?

The only other way an oil will free lost power is being a better lubricant. Some oils do work better than others.

 

holy crap, never have i seen such blatant self promotion under the guise of a user post.

8hp? no way mate...... whichever vendor claims 8hp from oil alone is smoking pot... lots of pot. 8hp +/- on a dyno test means nuts...... those here that have done enuff dynos know that there are so many variables its easy to skew results.

Load tests? go send an email to Blackstone Labs or post in BITOG - even soapwater performs better than mobil 1, and load tests are very subjective. So what if it excels in a load test? fill the oil with enuff silicon for e.g. and you'll beat every other oil in the market. but silicon turns to gunk in the engine. Again, go search BITOG.

Nanotech? oh puhleeze. The ONLY nanotech-based 'oil' is sold by an Israeli company called ApNano Materials. The very basis of nanotech-based lubrication is that the nanoparticles are so small that like bearings it provides great lubrication, and because its so small, it never wears out - ie no need for servicing. Visit http://www.nanotechwire.com/news.asp...&ntid=126&pg=9 or google it.

The ONLY proven substance that reduces friction in motor oil is molybdenum. Moly is currently the best friction reducer that bonds with metal surfaces. Better oils like german castrol and motul have higher amounts of it, cheaper oils have lesser amounts of moly. Any oil performs great with higher amounts of moly, but because moly is expensive such oils are expensive too. Is moly nano? subjectively yes - any material can be marketed as 'nano', - go google it.

Is nano technology used on space shuttles and submarines? yes, but there are so many types of nano used - ceramic nanomaterials to guard against heat, nano carbon rods to insulate submarines. The question is - are they using nanotech oils as lubricants on space shuttles and submarines and has it come down to motor oils? i highly doubt it..

If Texas is really nano, show us the patent. If there's no patent, why not? Especially since this is absolutely miraculous and you stand to be the ONLY oil company in the world having a cheap $38/l true nano lubricant - unless it's just a marketing gimmick.

Let me be generous - so let's just say that Texas is lucky 'nuff to have researched better technology, better oil, and 'nanotechnology' than the billion dollar lubricant-only firms like castrol can. The point is - 'Is Texas Revolution Titanium suitable of for rotaries?' Well, put enough moly, silicon, additives in it and any oil will perform great on load tests. But the more crap in it, logically, the more stuff is left behind when burnt, and it's harder to burn.

Texas may run great on pistons - you can put high additive oil in pistons and they'll still run great anyways - but even then, with an oil on the market for a year or so, let's wait and see.

So instead of asking us to check for complete burn of texas oil in a rotary combustion chamber, it put it to you to provide proof points that debunks everything i said above:

- Prove your 'nanotech' with a patent or some 3rd party proof-points, not some marketing-speak and don't say dumb stuff like 'it's a trade secret, we want to prevent competition.' that's just lame.
- Show us tests from an independent oil analysis lab like blackstone that your timken test (load bearing) is done to ASTM standards and beats the competition. Live 'demos' don't just cut it no more.

Why this tirade? Coz i'm really sick and tired of the obviously self-promotional/commercial putting up a user post in the hope of bringing attention and a discussion around the product. That's just so wrong.

So please.... do prove me wrong with valid proofpoints!

PS: i've got this canister of air that makes your lungs so clean, you can smoke 50 cigars and not a single lungcell will be damaged. it's nanotech air used on space shuttles and submarines, and now it comes down to your lungs. breathe this nano air and you'll run faster, tire less, and have a longer di*k.

 

Rav369: How much for your canister of special air? The benefits sounds great especially the longer dick bit. (I run pretty fast as it is since I have a smaller apendix to get in the way. Where to find eh? How often much I use it for before I see the "full" benefit eh?

 

got 30 day money back guarantee bo?

 

maybe during dyno testing.....the car was using stock using normal fuel and normal engine oil first. Then change to avgas and texas oil. with that....15hp...i believe. Oil 2hp gain. Avgas...13hp gain.

remember...its THEIR dyno sheet running under THEIR conditions.

If Landis and Gatlin can cheat the whole world....whats a 15hp claim?

 

Lowrider: same as Texas, $38/m3. as for the benefits, it'll be the same as Texas - you'll really need to believe in my claim of nanotechnology which btw i'll be unable to prove to you becoz it's a corporate secret. It's like having faith, loads of faith. Oh, and btw, if anything goes wrong, it's really not the fault of the special air, but there's a problem with your thingie.

INXS: Of course! Just like Texas, i've got a $1 million warranty. But i can't really tell you if i'm underwritten by an insurance company if at all, or what's the basis of the warranty and even if the warranty is directly to my 'air' company, if i've put up a bond or even if i've got 'nuff dough in the bank to back it.

 

Hahahah, whats your 'air' company book value and annual turnover like?

Potent stuff, can i order 10 bags full of air? I need the extra hp for my ECA..

 

guys guys guys...

relax !! im just saying how i felt. thats all..

Rav369, guess u create a new username just to post all these isn't it ? do u really dislike Texas Oil that much ? if so, don't use ! need not comment that much. By the way, it stated manufactured warranty and not just any hoax warranty stated by certain organisers. and for ur info, i doubt any oil company dare to give out such warranty.

ngkenny, thanks for ur info. in actual fact, its done by a my friend garage which texas doesn't know abt it as he doesn't believed its as good as they claimed.

coupe07, yup, its true to use just mineral or rotary oil just to play safe. but, didn't ur garage, monster garage recommended me to use Re oil. its stated fully synthetic and i asked ur mechanic. in the end, he comes teling me that its special !!!

thanks for ur info of ur garage. its nicely done up ! just official launched right ? congrats !

 

Kenko, i've got nothing against Texas Oil, California Oil, NewMexico Oil or any oil for that matter. It's just the way that this thread is so blatantly self promotional it sickens me. You can be any oil brand, doing the same self-promo **** here and I'll be putting up these same replies. The club thread is meant for members to learn best practices, but when companies come in here, pretend to be a user, and post ridiculous claims that anyone with a highschool dip can see thru - now that's really immoral and it just mucks up the learning. Nanotech and 18hp.....utter bamboozling!

And btw, unless you own your own hydrocrackers or rig, you are not an oil company. Well, if you have a 'manufacturer's warranty' as you say, then spell out the rights and limitations of your users so if anything goes wrong, your customers will know the appropriate recourse.

Am i using a new username just to post all these, of course i am, just like what you and some others are doing. do a posts search on the usernames, you'll know what i mean bub.

so like i said again, provide proof points to refute my statements, and i'll be more than glad to clam right up.

 

Rav: Tink Texas oil is all about size like in Texas. We have our very own localised version, Tongkat Ali Oil. More organic and supports local industry.

Btw. INXS's enquiry about 30 day guarantee refers more to the special air treatment; rather than (another boring, over-discussed, with no real conclusion) discussion on oil, a topic that has been beaten to death (with a hammer) and than some.

Either people use the search function or I propose the following topics be ban forever from this forum:

1) Oil: what type of oil is best for our 8?
2) MT or Auto ah?
3) "What: rims, colours or bodykits should I get for my 8?" questions.
4) Do you know anything about this 8 on sale at www........com or variants of this question.

I am sure we can think of more but the above questions have no real conclusions nor would anyone want to stake any real valid opinions. They just make the forum boring. Peopel need to use the search function; and accept that like Rav said, there are no real conclusions that can be given. We just have to take the risk and bare the consequences of our own choices. PAP cannot hold our hands everwhere!! ;-)

 

hp gain by 8? dyno test?

To be frank, i also went down to their warehouse. To be frank, i was also shown the load test. To be frank, i also tried their oil. Like i said, it is good in any other engines.

The rotary engine is special cos it "eats" engine oil. Y it eats, its another separate issue altogether. Whatever engine oil u used must be able to burn complete in ur engine. Withstand load test, plenty of nano, if it cannot burn completely, however good oil oso considered useless if canot burnt completely.

Conclusion is: Use synthetic oil only meant for rotary, or only mineral. Of cos, use those brands that are tried n tested n of cos reliable, for rotary engines.

 

My mechanic recommend u to use RE oil is not wrong mah. Its fully synthetic and its meant for rotary engine...... and its special because it is thin and can burn complete in rotary engine and race n track proven.

I did not contradict myself, did i?

 

all too chim already....

kenko...maybe the 18hp claim is too much for us to handle. We are all struggling here to get 2hp from changing this and that.

To hear a 18hp claim from just oil alone might just be too much for us to handle. maybe it is true (if its true....I WANT MY MONEY BACK COUPE07...I DEMAND A REFUND..hee)

 

u demand simi refund, no hp gain, smelly smelly oso got give u nice sound at least.... u refund simi?

 

Relax lah, everyone...dun have to be so aggressive...we're all here to
learn from each other mah...

Bro kenko, dun get angry...its juz that the claim of 18hp improvement is simply
too unbelieveable...non of us wld be purchasing open pods or mufflers if
a single oil change could give us such a significant improvement....even for
a muffler...the most significant one shld be the R Magic muffler which claims
only a 14.5ps improvement over stock...so how can anyone not be skeptical
abt the claim made by texas oil?
By the way, the RE oil bro coupe07 recommend u is rotary oil...it is juz also
fully snythetic...wat i heard was it was specially formulated for complete burning
in the engine since normal synthetic oil doesn't burn completely in the engine...
hopes this clear things up for u a bit...

Bro RAV369, relax lah...i think most of the sis n bros in the forum already
knows that its impossible to get such gains by changing the oil only...dun
have to be so harsh on our new member? i think he mentioned that he went
down to monster garage n even talk to bro coupe07, so i think his probably
not from texas oil lah...probably juz someone who is very new to the rotary
engine n was con to believe that the oil could provide such outrageous
improvement?

Bro lowrider, already got tongkat ali pills, kopi n the herb...now even got tongkat
ali oil?hahaha...but i think its not for the engine leh, only for the short shifter...

 

I agree with coupe07, alittle hard to swallow that a mere engine oil change for a RX8 can gain 18horses......

Turbo the 8 gets about between 40 to maybe 60 horses, correct me if I am wrong...... , and cost loads of $$$$ and proper tuning to achieve this result........

And somehow an oil change can give 18 extra horses under S$200, wah siah............ ............I can walk on water also liaoz..........

 

sorry ah...divert for a while...it does sound/feel much better now. i really cannot wait for the meow to arrive...then see if mamamia's agaration is correct.

back to topic....I WANT A REFUND IF HIS OIL CAN REALLY GIVE 18 HORSES! wahahaha

 

My Oil can give u more than 18 ponies.. problem is.. u have to squeeze it out from my love handles.

 

I was reading on this comparison of exhaust for the evos. They were getting around 10-20hp. Turbo car, good exhaust only 10-20hp. How is it possible a oil can "create" 18hp?

What i believe?

Dyno 1:
Run on industrial diesel engine oil (70 weight and above)
Restrict air filter

Dyno 2:
Change to "miracle" oil.

Royal purple has a oil; racing 2008. Visc of 0w-7. Maybe has 10hp gain. Make sure there is a tow truck outside the workshop to tow your 8 back in after oil change.

 

i'm still wondering y KENKO is still no replying.....

either:
1. He is promoting some products in disguise of an innocent user asking innocent questions;
2. Does not log in rx8 forum these 2 days, which is so unlikely cos he was so active when the thread was active;
3. He is overseas;
4. Browsing and tinking of ways to reply us since we asked a whole chunk of questions

so WHICH IS WHICH??? If promoting products, pls be open enuf and promote. Dun have to hide behind a character and pretend to ask innocent questions. Moreover, once lobang kena poke open means u lost all the credibility......

Again, i'm not gg to assume, its either u continue to hide, assume another identity or ju come out, be open, tell us wats the intention.

yes, mr Kenko??

 

Huh? i thought u saw him b4 at ur workshop n even recommended him
the RE oil? How did he suddeny become a promoter?

 

seriously i dunno anyone by the nick of kenko..... since he said i recommend him the RE oil... i hope he identifies himself lor....

 

He is dragging you down with him.