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Old 09-13-2006 | 01:58 AM
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Dirfting With RX8 6AT ?

Hi guys,

need some advice here.

Am comtempting to getting a brand new 6AT RX8 instead of a 3-4years old S15. Looking mainly into drifting and so my questions.....

1. Can a stock 6AT RX8 drift ?
2. The RX8 6AT does not come with DSC, will drifting be a problem ?
3. Any other areas of concern I should look out ?

Hope to hear some sound advice
Old 09-13-2006 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by feels
Hi guys,

need some advice here.

Am comtempting to getting a brand new 6AT RX8 instead of a 3-4years old S15. Looking mainly into drifting and so my questions.....

1. Can a stock 6AT RX8 drift ?
2. The RX8 6AT does not come with DSC, will drifting be a problem ?
3. Any other areas of concern I should look out ?

Hope to hear some sound advice
Y do u wan to use auto to drift? The s15 which u may buy is a manual. Y not the manual in this case for rx8?
Old 09-13-2006 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by feels
2. The RX8 6AT does not come with DSC, will drifting be a problem ?

I hope u know wat you're doing.
Old 09-13-2006 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by coupe07
Y do u wan to use auto to drift? The s15 which u may buy is a manual. Y not the manual in this case for rx8?
Trained in Arcade? So using AT will be more comfortable than MT?
Old 09-13-2006 | 02:56 AM
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I beg you, please do not buy an RX-8.

It's a piece of junk for this purpose. Wheelbase is too long, chassis is too soft.

Better off with some other car makes like Nissan Silvia or whatever. Remember, the RX-8 is really not suitable for you. Go get something else.
dude... why you get so emotional over it?

Btw, longer wheelbase is better for drifting. I think RX8 has a shorter wheelbase than Silvias.

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Old 09-13-2006 | 03:09 AM
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appreciate all the feedbacks though some feedbacks kinda weird

well, the RX8 aint gonna be my daily car, so having the AT transmission is beneficial for my spouse who prefers a Manual transmission.

is the RX8 really so bad as a drifting car ?

and in regards to the DSC not available on the AT, what kind of effects am I looking at ?
Old 09-13-2006 | 04:32 AM
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u dun need dsc to drift. and i certainly dun think that the chassis is softer than a s15
Old 09-13-2006 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by feels
Hi guys,

need some advice here.

Am comtempting to getting a brand new 6AT RX8 instead of a 3-4years old S15. Looking mainly into drifting and so my questions.....

1. Can a stock 6AT RX8 drift ?
2. The RX8 6AT does not come with DSC, will drifting be a problem ?
3. Any other areas of concern I should look out ?

Hope to hear some sound advice

Prerequisites for drift:

1. Any car with FR layout, preferably with LSD
2. Recommended for suspension to be tuned for drift
3. Preferably to be a manual gearbox because there is more techniques you can try.
4. DSC must be switch off. So without DSC still can drift.
5. Deep pockets for tyres

But ask yourself if you will be on the track every week? If not, 6AT should be good enough even for once a month on track. But hardcore enthusiast will still STRONGLY recommend manual. So the ultimate choice is up to you.
Old 09-13-2006 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by feels
well, the RX8 aint gonna be my daily car, so having the AT transmission is beneficial for my spouse who prefers a Manual transmission.

is the RX8 really so bad as a drifting car ?

and in regards to the DSC not available on the AT, what kind of effects am I looking at ?
feels, pardon my comments, but it seems like you are not really sure what you are looking for. Sorry, but "the RX8 aint gonna be my daily car, so having the AT transmission is beneficial for my spouse who prefers a Manual transmission" doesn't make much sense to me unless you want to get something that your spouse doesn't like.

RX-8 is not a bad drifting car. I have seen an stock RX-8 drifting with someone who knows what he's doing. But then it's a manual RX-8. Not that it's impossible to drift on a 6AT RX-8, but there are other better cars to do drifting with.
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Drifiting is more for manuals. ATs can do it too; just that its easier and more logical on MTs.

Ifs its a second drift car, the s15 is a better choice.

And when is the 8 chassis soft? Its already way stiffer than the rx7 which is already quite stift.
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PitchBlaC
Prerequisites for drift:

1. Any car with FR layout, preferably with LSD
2. Recommended for suspension to be tuned for drift
3. Preferably to be a manual gearbox because there is more techniques you can try.
4. DSC must be switch off. So without DSC still can drift.
5. Deep pockets for tyres

But ask yourself if you will be on the track every week? If not, 6AT should be good enough even for once a month on track. But hardcore enthusiast will still STRONGLY recommend manual. So the ultimate choice is up to you.

appreciate your feedback bro, at least i have a little more understanding now abt the basic requirements for a car to be able to drift
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:17 AM
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feels, pardon my comments, but it seems like you are not really sure what you are looking for. Sorry, but "the RX8 aint gonna be my daily car, so having the AT transmission is beneficial for my spouse who prefers a Manual transmission" doesn't make much sense to me unless you want to get something that your spouse doesn't like.

RX-8 is not a bad drifting car. I have seen an stock RX-8 drifting with someone who knows what he's doing. But then it's a manual RX-8. Not that it's impossible to drift on a 6AT RX-8, but there are other better cars to do drifting with.

hi sqflyer, it seems that over at the states side, they have the same comment that it aint impossible to drift the auto just tt its tougher.
it would be disappointing though if i eventually cant get to drift in the RX8
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:17 AM
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Your torque converter isn't gonna like the abuse drifting is putting it through even if you managed to get it into initial slide. A wide range of low end torque is also a good trait of a drift car, the 8 doesn't have this advantage. Since you ask a question like this, I'm not too sure you should even be behind the wheels of a sports car.
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:32 AM
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any rwd car can be drift...
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:48 AM
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Your torque converter isn't gonna like the abuse drifting is putting it through even if you managed to get it into initial slide. A wide range of low end torque is also a good trait of a drift car, the 8 doesn't have this advantage. Since you ask a question like this, I'm not too sure you should even be behind the wheels of a sports car.

hi, i appreciate your feedback but is there a need for sarcasm "I'm not too sure you should even be behind the wheels of a sports car" ?

this is a open forum where newbies and experts and fellow enthusiast meet and share info.

i m simply VERY NEW in terms of drifting as well as car setups and requirements, but does that rule me out being fit to drive a sports car ? I m not going further into this
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:52 AM
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anyway, auto not recommended....
manual 8 can drift pretty well... fyi...
tested...
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephy88
any rwd car can be drift...
Bro for your info front wheel drive car also can drift see got skill a not....

i saw ppl use civic to do drifting before.....
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by feels
hi, i appreciate your feedback but is there a need for sarcasm "I'm not too sure you should even be behind the wheels of a sports car" ?

this is a open forum where newbies and experts and fellow enthusiast meet and share info.

i m simply VERY NEW in terms of drifting as well as car setups and requirements, but does that rule me out being fit to drive a sports car ? I m not going further into this
Sorry, my focus was not meant to say you are not fit to own a sportscar but trying to get into drifting, etc a bit too soon just because its becoming a new trend of motorsport or often depicted in movies or animation.

It is a well established fact that a manual tranny with a clutch offers better car control, I honestly think that you are not only new to drifting but totally inadequately informed about cars in general from the question you asked. I apologize if you feel offended. My sarcasm (my bad) was so that you stay alive and not getting anyone hurt (in the process of you drifting) until you get to know more about cars.
Old 09-13-2006 | 11:59 AM
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ya la...
FWD, RWD, AWD oso can...
but RWD is stock ready car
FWD and AWD need lotsa power, CF/CG transfer inorder to get into drift mode.
in that process of creating such force, the car have reach end of carpark...
Old 09-13-2006 | 12:01 PM
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steady... chill mate...
cool man....
Old 09-13-2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax_rx8
Bro for your info front wheel drive car also can drift see got skill a not....

i saw ppl use civic to do drifting before.....
Let's not get into that, a civic can slide, skid or drift but it can't prolong a drift by throttle application like what a driver can do in a RWD.
Old 09-13-2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Sorry, my focus was not meant to say you are not fit to own a sportscar but trying to get into drifting, etc a bit too soon just because its becoming a new trend of motorsport or often depicted in movies or animation.

It is a well established fact that a manual tranny with a clutch offers better car control, I honestly think that you are not only new to drifting but totally inadequately informed about cars in general from the question you asked. I apologize if you feel offended. My sarcasm (my bad) was so that you stay alive and not getting anyone hurt (in the process of you drifting) until you get to know more about cars.
no pro bro , i'm sure there's some misunderstandings in the way I interpret your feedbacks, my apologies on that.
Old 09-13-2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by feels
Hi guys,

need some advice here.

Am comtempting to getting a brand new 6AT RX8 instead of a 3-4years old S15. Looking mainly into drifting and so my questions.....

1. Can a stock 6AT RX8 drift ?
2. The RX8 6AT does not come with DSC, will drifting be a problem ?
3. Any other areas of concern I should look out ?

Hope to hear some sound advice
OK let me answer your answer:

1. Yes, but need to setup the car up nicely... need to power up and strengthen the body (end up, it cost more than a manual 6MT 8)
2. Yes, DCS with traction control
3. Lotsa maintainece...

IMHO: if you really keen in do-rifto, i suggest you buy a used RWD car...
in drifting... u are controlling...
when you can't control the drift, that's call buanging...

for your consideration.
stef
Old 09-13-2006 | 12:11 PM
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I beg you, please do not buy an RX-8.

It's a piece of junk for this purpose. Wheelbase is too long, chassis is too soft.

Better off with some other car makes like Nissan Silvia or whatever. Remember, the RX-8 is really not suitable for you. Go get something else.
Are you just trying to keep the kid from buying an 8 or what. Chassis soft? Stock suspension is soft, but not the chassis. I don't watch drifting much, but I know there is at least one pro that uses an 8. I would want to get more power to compensate for the lack of torque and would have to change the suspension. I think that it would make a great drift car.

There are school he can go to learn how to drift and also find out if he will like it enough to invest into it.

PS, I would go with a manual
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Dave, youre very KPO


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