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Old 08-24-2006 | 11:28 AM
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I don't think anybody really ever wants an accident.. but throw in an immature driver, a fast car, and a competitor..
it was an accident waiting to happen
Old 08-24-2006 | 01:58 PM
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Kind of sad to hear this kind of accident...be it the driver's fault or not...
nobody really deserve a fate like this...His parents must be feeling alot of
pain...
Old 08-24-2006 | 02:35 PM
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as quoted before "its not the ride, its the rider". I know of a rich kid who got a nissan murano from his parents when he was 20 and wrecked it . Whole thing turned turtle, complete write off. Lucky twit got off with fractured arm and glass cuts over his face. Even SUVs arent safe if the driver doesnt know what he's doing...its indulgent parents who bear the guilt.

If i am so lucky as to have a boy or girl, i will teach them to drive Initial D style in a lau pok car (lousy pickup, top speed 90kmh or engine blow, and no power steering). =p

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Old 08-24-2006 | 09:37 PM
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i am thinking what would happen if the vehicle involved is a nissan sunny instead of the wrx? Would we still be saying 'its not the ride, its the driver'. I just feel that if because the wrx has the reputation of a tiong chia in singapore...so the moment accident...sure kena pin pointed as the culprit.

Maybe he really going over to Tuas to meet his friend for coffee? Maybe the area really very dangerous(cos the papers reported that another accident happened there a few days back). Maybe he worked really hard and helped his parents invest their money and also did well in his school plus he always help old lady cross the road thus his parents say 'boy...you have been a good son. we love you very much. here is your present'

The kid quite poor thing. He could be just a good kid who went to Tuas to meet his friends for supper when he saw a dog crossing the road and there happened to be a rx8 near him, thus he had to swerve to avoid the dog and the 8 but kena stereotyped in singapore to be a dangerous driver who went racing and crashed his car thus causing his death.

poor thing lah.....no time to grow up....and time up so fast












anyone know the car plate number?
Old 08-24-2006 | 10:09 PM
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rich kid poor kid...

was wondering...are there anyone here who own his Rx8 with his own keeps instead of getting it from their parents?

I am sure this person will hold more responsibility over his car when its earned with his own keeps
Old 08-24-2006 | 10:34 PM
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Well isn't it the same for anything else... be it a car, a mobile phone etc...

Long time ago I remembered my dad's friend bought his son a Lada (when it was still being sold in singapore), the guy treasured it.. I mean, he polished that tin can till the russian paint wore off, kept it smelling like new, he was so grateful that he got wheels and didn't have to take the bus... There are people who do treasure stuff and take responsibility even if it is given free. Not everybody is irresponsible.

This is one incident that should not have ended this way.






I didn't get the number plate
Old 08-24-2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lohsk
Well isn't it the same for anything else... be it a car, a mobile phone etc...

Long time ago I remembered my dad's friend bought his son a Lada (when it was still being sold in singapore), the guy treasured it.. I mean, he polished that tin can till the russian paint wore off, kept it smelling like new, he was so grateful that he got wheels and didn't have to take the bus... There are people who do treasure stuff and take responsibility even if it is given free. Not everybody is irresponsible.

This is one incident that should not have ended this way.






I didn't get the number plate
thats my whole point bro.....

so what if he paid for it on his own? he could have crashed it still!
Problem is that his dad paid for it and now he is deemed as rich kid who is reckless blah blah blah.

does the whole significance of this whole issue all boil down to this? rich kid who receives nice car from father = reckless and irresponsible driver?

i may be hitting a raw nerve on what i am going to say...and i apologise for it. Don't be jealous cos his dad bought him a car. WHO DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN THE RICH KID'S SHOE WHEN HE RECEIVED THE CAR? it does not mean he will not treasure it or take care of it..it just means he is lucky.

the accident that happened could well be....an accident.
Old 08-24-2006 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by aurora
rich kid poor kid...

was wondering...are there anyone here who own his Rx8 with his own keeps instead of getting it from their parents?

I am sure this person will hold more responsibility over his car when its earned with his own keeps
I'm sure 70 to 80% here are self sponsored.....
Old 08-24-2006 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ngkenny
thats my whole point bro.....

so what if he paid for it on his own? he could have crashed it still!
Problem is that his dad paid for it and now he is deemed as rich kid who is reckless blah blah blah.

does the whole significance of this whole issue all boil down to this? rich kid who receives nice car from father = reckless and irresponsible driver?

i may be hitting a raw nerve on what i am going to say...and i apologise for it. Don't be jealous cos his dad bought him a car. WHO DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN THE RICH KID'S SHOE WHEN HE RECEIVED THE CAR? it does not mean he will not treasure it or take care of it..it just means he is lucky.

the accident that happened could well be....an accident.
One bamboo cannot flip one sampan. Lets see the facts. WRX (sunny confirm slower than wrx to get up to fatal speeds), young kid in school (knows the consequence of speeding? or have the maturity not to be reckless?) parent sponsored vehicle (will it hurt him more if he paid it on his own?), going to tuas for dinner so late? (join shipyard working worker to eat in overnight canteens? Or "picnic" with illegal racers?)

No doubt NOT all rich kids are spoilt but its just rich kids with sponsored sports cars given to them at too early a age before they can earn their own keep are more prone to such situations. Compared this to Loksk's Lada driving friend. Will he be so yaya papaya and go recklessly driving; even if he did, would a Lada reach fatal speeds (not that Ladas are safe but they obviously cannot accelerate as fast as a wrx)

There are alot of rich kids here too. Whats different between individuals of this group is the maturity and attitude (just see replys to posts). There are good ones who do deserve their sponsored cars but on the other hand, there are still some who are still so stuck in their juvenile behavior that makes me wonder if they still wear diapers.

I have this friend, dad struck it rich and started buying new and fats cars for my friend now and then. And why? because this friend always end up crashing his car and yet his dad still keeps on buying fast cars for him. Once bitten, twice shy, thrice is god-dam asking for it. And another friend (rich kid) who crashed his dads s-class and chalked up a 120k insurance claim; why 120k? 20k for damage to government property, 40k for damage to 2 other cars and 60k in repairs to the supposedly-totalled s-class. In this accident he nearly killed a mum with her 2 children.

Jason: I, too, was young once at 17 and i bought my own motorbike secretly even before i got my license. Had a accident the first day i got my bike. I concede i was young and immature. I am lucky to be still alive today, i have had many friends who died or got seriously injured.

The 8 who raced with him (if he was really racing with a 8), is it a black 8 with knight sport bodykit that lives near him? Joking, just joking.
Old 08-25-2006 | 12:06 AM
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Its not exactly wrong for parents to buy kids expensive and fast cars if they can well afford it, (its just not advisable). Whats really wrong is for the recipient to fail to understand that their parents bought them the car as a sign of love and pampering; and not for them to misuse it and cause harm to themselves or others.
Old 08-25-2006 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Emperor
Its not exactly wrong for parents to buy kids expensive and fast cars if they can well afford it, (its just not advisable). Whats really wrong is for the recipient to fail to understand that their parents bought them the car as a sign of love and pampering; and not for them to misuse it and cause harm to themselves or others.
How bout this? Parents buy their kids any car they can afford. Then install the speed counter on the car(like those in SAF vehicle). For every counter it clocks, equal to 1 day ban from driving.
Old 08-25-2006 | 12:31 AM
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Give a kid a real gun that only shoot pellets and yet the kid will still point it at other or shoot small animal with it. And it still hurts.

Ultimately its the person behind the wheel that controls the car. I see see SAF vehicles get into accidents and even flip over. Speed is not the only contributing factor. There are speed limits on SAF vehicles but it still does not prevent them from hitting or hitting other vehicles or drving across a runway when a aircraft is landing. (stupid as it sounds but stupidity abounds)
Old 08-25-2006 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Emperor
One bamboo cannot flip one sampan. Lets see the facts. WRX (sunny confirm slower than wrx to get up to fatal speeds), young kid in school (knows the consequence of speeding? or have the maturity not to be reckless?) parent sponsored vehicle (will it hurt him more if he paid it on his own?), going to tuas for dinner so late? (join shipyard working worker to eat in overnight canteens? Or "picnic" with illegal racers?)

No doubt NOT all rich kids are spoilt but its just rich kids with sponsored sports cars given to them at too early a age before they can earn their own keep are more prone to such situations. Compared this to Loksk's Lada driving friend. Will he be so yaya papaya and go recklessly driving; even if he did, would a Lada reach fatal speeds (not that Ladas are safe but they obviously cannot accelerate as fast as a wrx)

There are alot of rich kids here too. Whats different between individuals of this group is the maturity and attitude (just see replys to posts). There are good ones who do deserve their sponsored cars but on the other hand, there are still some who are still so stuck in their juvenile behavior that makes me wonder if they still wear diapers.

I have this friend, dad struck it rich and started buying new and fats cars for my friend now and then. And why? because this friend always end up crashing his car and yet his dad still keeps on buying fast cars for him. Once bitten, twice shy, thrice is god-dam asking for it. And another friend (rich kid) who crashed his dads s-class and chalked up a 120k insurance claim; why 120k? 20k for damage to government property, 40k for damage to 2 other cars and 60k in repairs to the supposedly-totalled s-class. In this accident he nearly killed a mum with her 2 children.

Jason: I, too, was young once at 17 and i bought my own motorbike secretly even before i got my license. Had a accident the first day i got my bike. I concede i was young and immature. I am lucky to be still alive today, i have had many friends who died or got seriously injured.

The 8 who raced with him (if he was really racing with a 8), is it a black 8 with knight sport bodykit that lives near him? Joking, just joking.
hello....... looks like i must really change bodykit liao...... I dun race one hor.... my car only looks fast but is not fast.
Old 08-25-2006 | 12:42 AM
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hello....... looks like i must really change bodykit liao...... I dun race one hor.... my car only looks fast but is not fast.
Sure or not?
Old 08-25-2006 | 12:58 AM
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Brudders & sistas, everything is relative... We generalise as a rule of thumb, but every situation is different. It may be as what you think and it may turn out to be totally the opposite. But the fact is someone lost his life and the more important issue is that we (and all other drivers collectively) learn from other people's mistakes so that we don't have to make the mistake ourselves and face the same fatal consequence.
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Originally Posted by coupe07
hello....... looks like i must really change bodykit liao...... I dun race one hor.... my car only looks fast but is not fast.
Ya lor hor. No prizes for winning then what for?

Its a lucky thing no one else was hurt. Winner won nothing but loser paid with his life. I really sympathise with his parents.
Old 08-25-2006 | 07:04 AM
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I have to disagree with Emperor's statement ..."would a Lada reach fatal speeds"

Being in a Lada in whatever speed is dangerous enough... you never know when the car will fall apart...
Old 08-25-2006 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lohsk
I have to disagree with Emperor's statement ..."would a Lada reach fatal speeds"

Being in a Lada in whatever speed is dangerous enough... you never know when the car will fall apart...
Hahaha...I think the Lada can only travel how fast the owner can push it...
Old 08-25-2006 | 07:16 AM
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Seriously, like i said b4, no one really wants this to happen..be it a wrx or a
sunny...accidents like this will only hurt the pple who truely cares n love the
ones involved...I dun think anyone shld blame his parents for buying him the
car?Their intentions was gd...all they wanted to do was to shower their son
wif gifts to show that they care...They wld never have guess for things to turn
out the way they did...
Old 08-25-2006 | 10:03 AM
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Seriously, like i said b4, no one really wants this to happen..be it a wrx or a
sunny...accidents like this will only hurt the pple who truely cares n love the
ones involved...I dun think anyone shld blame his parents for buying him the
car?Their intentions was gd...all they wanted to do was to shower their son
wif gifts to show that they care...They wld never have guess for things to turn
out the way they did...

I had an accident before , just 1mth after I got my licence.

I would consider it as serious, Was travelling at 80km/h and was 2 cars length from the car infront of me , it was raining very heavily on that day.
Suddenly the car infront of me stop, and I jam my brake immediately but the my car did not stop and hit the car infront.

My the 30% front part of the engine compartment was crush

From the photos of the Crush WRX he definitely did not travel below 80km/h.
Even if he is driving a Sunny, the results will still be the same and the public will still said that the driver is full responsible for the results of what he did, and nobody will be sorry for him. and if he happens to kill someone, everyone will hate him for that, just like the case when a car crash into a Bus stop killing a school girl along bendemeer road.

My cousin who was travelling at 100km/h on a 60km/h limit road, got a fine and start complain to F__K TP for what had happen. but I refuse to talk to him regarding about his speeding case cos I was thinking, Everyone is responsible for what he/she did and can't blame other for one's action.
And most important of all should not ask or even demand others to feel sorry for them.

The above is just my personal thoughs, and it someone is thinking other wise, please do not "SHOT ME"

THANKS
Old 08-27-2006 | 01:14 AM
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Heard from a friend that the rex guy friends were around when he crashed. They sped off leaving the guy's gf at the scene. Never even try to help that poor fellow out from the crash car.
Old 08-27-2006 | 01:54 AM
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Please do your speeding in the Real Track or Video game!
Old 08-27-2006 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by coolvolka
Heard from a friend that the rex guy friends were around when he crashed. They sped off leaving the guy's gf at the scene. Never even try to help that poor fellow out from the crash car.
I tot the GF was already sent home?
Old 08-27-2006 | 10:51 AM
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I tot the GF was already sent home?
obviously something is wrong here...

if the gf is at the scene...means she is most probably in the car...and since the car crashed and driver died...means the gf couldn't possibly be standing there AFTER the crash....

*scratch head*....sigh..nowadays quite fond of scratching my head...
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Originally Posted by Emperor
One bamboo cannot flip one sampan. Lets see the facts. WRX (sunny confirm slower than wrx to get up to fatal speeds), young kid in school (knows the consequence of speeding? or have the maturity not to be reckless?) parent sponsored vehicle (will it hurt him more if he paid it on his own?), going to tuas for dinner so late? (join shipyard working worker to eat in overnight canteens? Or "picnic" with illegal racers?)

No doubt NOT all rich kids are spoilt but its just rich kids with sponsored sports cars given to them at too early a age before they can earn their own keep are more prone to such situations. Compared this to Loksk's Lada driving friend. Will he be so yaya papaya and go recklessly driving; even if he did, would a Lada reach fatal speeds (not that Ladas are safe but they obviously cannot accelerate as fast as a wrx)

There are alot of rich kids here too. Whats different between individuals of this group is the maturity and attitude (just see replys to posts). There are good ones who do deserve their sponsored cars but on the other hand, there are still some who are still so stuck in their juvenile behavior that makes me wonder if they still wear diapers.

I have this friend, dad struck it rich and started buying new and fats cars for my friend now and then. And why? because this friend always end up crashing his car and yet his dad still keeps on buying fast cars for him. Once bitten, twice shy, thrice is god-dam asking for it. And another friend (rich kid) who crashed his dads s-class and chalked up a 120k insurance claim; why 120k? 20k for damage to government property, 40k for damage to 2 other cars and 60k in repairs to the supposedly-totalled s-class. In this accident he nearly killed a mum with her 2 children.

Jason: I, too, was young once at 17 and i bought my own motorbike secretly even before i got my license. Had a accident the first day i got my bike. I concede i was young and immature. I am lucky to be still alive today, i have had many friends who died or got seriously injured.

The 8 who raced with him (if he was really racing with a 8), is it a black 8 with knight sport bodykit that lives near him? Joking, just joking.

definitely not the correct way to pamper a child...if rich (or SB rich), should plan a future for the child ....invest funds for him so that he can be self-sufficient or (even fricking rich) at a more mature age. To keep indulging the young kid with all these adult stuffs is just not right. IMO, the parents must really look at themselves what they are doing to their child, instilling the child with sense of irresponsiblity and extragavent spending.....its just stupid....i will never want my own kid to be a dumb rich snob ....rather be a rich smart and responsible one with sense of financial management.

this incident seems to fit the profile what we are discussing about ...of course i do not mean all are like this (hopefully not). please dun be pissed if your car is a gift. be glad you are what you are. appreciate and learn to cherish yourself. you dun know how lucky you are. before doing anything, think of all the 'rich' you will miss if you do something stupid.

although i have to work like a dog to maintain mine. too bad no rich dad.

cheers

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