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#26
Originally Posted by sqflyer
Like I said, I think a lot of people here knows what a good job MG has done on their 8s. Maybe it takes my posting here to bring out all their compliments for MG. I don't need to be smart or mature to see whether you are stirring **** or 'just disturbing CoupeM only', because I leave it to the readers to decide for themselves so my smarts or maturity has nothing to do with it.
Thanks for your 'compliments', but I think most people here know I've been a master here long before some stir-loving person grew 'pubis'.
Thanks for your 'compliments', but I think most people here know I've been a master here long before some stir-loving person grew 'pubis'.
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Sometimes we do need to check ourselves on the motives of some of the comments made here. For some, if all you do is to check prices, bullshitting and pretend to be an expert with the guys in MG, I dun think you should be commenting in this post at all!
For those new owners looking for minor or major mods, I guess MG is indeed a great place to get genuine, trustworthy and proven parts at reasonable prices, and not some unimpressive prices for some cheap china "cheong" stuff. For me, I'm just satisfied with every dollar I spent on my 8 in MG. But that's just for me...
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
I too have compliments for them to be fair.
Complaints too have as well, but already mentioned and settled before, no point bringing up again, I am kool with stuff but not all are as calm.....so I better zip,![Hahano](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/hahano.gif)
Case closed, no winners, all losers.....
Complaints too have as well, but already mentioned and settled before, no point bringing up again, I am kool with stuff but not all are as calm.....so I better zip,
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Case closed, no winners, all losers.....
Then i refuse, u say u dun like the way MG conduct our business???
C'mon derek.... while i do not wish to bring out all these, u do all these small actions... directly or indirectly, i tink close 2 eyes also can see...... everytime MG is being mentioned, u surely be the first few to whack, which to me, is not a concern, cos i cun please everybody, definitely not u.
The only one time u were pleased is RE-amemiya reflashed ur ECU and at a promotional price, which to u, is still expensive. Maybe u do not noe that sending it to japan, or bringing ur ecu to their doorstep is way more expensive. They did it for u in spore, and for ur car to be down for only around 1 hour, u happy, satisfied or not, i'm not sure. ALl i noe is u posted on this forum abt wat the remap did for u. Genuine comments or backed by sarcasm then, u noe urself.
Watever it is, you want to continue, then u carry on. U MSN-ed me to let bygones be bygones on the 1st day of 2007, maybe u can save it, cos apparently it seems like u still will indirectly try to be funny, whch to me, is certainly not funny.
Of cos, i appreciate and am thankful of all feedbacks and criticisms abt myself or MG. Thanks for all compliments too. Mr Derek, u can save the sarcasm for urself. Please bring ur "too long being overseas" culture back to aussie land. U r now in spore. Ur type of sarcasm. sad to say, is not well-appreciated here.
Flyer is one of the few old birds that is still contributing to the small rx8 community. Be smart. It doesnt do u any good if only u and the newbirds are posting when all the oldies are watching and laughing at the comments but declined to post to share info.
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Originally Posted by darkelfin
aiyoo, nowadays here ppl now and then always seem abit edgy.
anyway, trying to go back to the topic. on a neutral feedback, i only serviced with MG before. i can't comment on mods as i've not done any there but i heard they are quite good in that area. as for servicing, it was generally ok as i just did normal servicing.
but one thing i was uncomfortable with was the lack of a checklist for each servicing period. like you know how maybe at 20k change brake fluid at 40k change something. when i inquired, they told me that they don't need a checklist and because they are very experienced they only change things when they feel they need to change and that they are not like other workshops who use checklist. i guess i am just more traditional and feel more comfortable if they go through a list of task like check oil, check tyre pressure, etc. instead of just looking at my tyre and say no need to check pressure cuz it looks fine. when i serviced with other workshops, with the procedure, it just looks more "complete".
ivan, u'll probably read this but know i am not complaining hor, just normal feedback. i will still go back and try a few more servicing to see how it goes and if i am comfortable, continue with servicing there. just my two cents.
anyway, trying to go back to the topic. on a neutral feedback, i only serviced with MG before. i can't comment on mods as i've not done any there but i heard they are quite good in that area. as for servicing, it was generally ok as i just did normal servicing.
but one thing i was uncomfortable with was the lack of a checklist for each servicing period. like you know how maybe at 20k change brake fluid at 40k change something. when i inquired, they told me that they don't need a checklist and because they are very experienced they only change things when they feel they need to change and that they are not like other workshops who use checklist. i guess i am just more traditional and feel more comfortable if they go through a list of task like check oil, check tyre pressure, etc. instead of just looking at my tyre and say no need to check pressure cuz it looks fine. when i serviced with other workshops, with the procedure, it just looks more "complete".
ivan, u'll probably read this but know i am not complaining hor, just normal feedback. i will still go back and try a few more servicing to see how it goes and if i am comfortable, continue with servicing there. just my two cents.
I'll certainly keep ur point in check. Thanks for feedback!
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Hmm...come to think abt it, MG really do biz no gd...in june,I wait for mid year sale...
dun have...national day,no national day sale...november no end of yr sale...wait
until christmas also no pre, post or christmas sale...make me so disappointed...
hahaha....juz kidding...
Seriously speaking...I personally think they r not bad...my car feels happy after
every visit...so far they rectify every fault I found in the car...with or without
a check list...I think when it comes to rotary, U can't really go wrong wif MG...
Now, can all the bros here expect a chinese new yr sale from MG?
heehee...
dun have...national day,no national day sale...november no end of yr sale...wait
until christmas also no pre, post or christmas sale...make me so disappointed...
hahaha....juz kidding...
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Seriously speaking...I personally think they r not bad...my car feels happy after
every visit...so far they rectify every fault I found in the car...with or without
a check list...I think when it comes to rotary, U can't really go wrong wif MG...
Now, can all the bros here expect a chinese new yr sale from MG?
heehee...
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#30
Ooooh, getting personal eh......tsk tsk tsk
Ivan Ivan, notti boy, to be fair, the RE Pod, I offered my services to work with you all to speed up the inefficiency of getting them in. And at the end of it, since you rejected my offer, I had to borrow from David, which for a fact he has already paid for it, and none of your concern from then on. But no, you guys called him and gave an excuse to need to get it back right away stating reason that it was defective, after catching wind I got hold of it.
Secondly, never even bothered about bodykits, less asking you guys to pass to me for duplication. So please stop lying to gain support in this lowly manner.
Anyway, we have had our talks before and we have agreed no more BS from any sides, if certain parties can't see both sides of a story or statement, does selective thoughts and views, and insinuates making accusations of me doing **** stirring, nothing I can do too. You just have to see for yaself who is the one starting the stirring.
Ivan, u too can find out from any newcomers which have met up with me, I do not insult or even state a bad name for MG, but just put down fair non-opinionated replies to them. You go decide and seek the facts for yaself again.
And since I offered sincere compliments to MG, and u state is sarcasm, no worries mate.
Anyway, your episode and mine has already ended, no intentions to bring in a new season as well unless provoked to. Cheers mate.
Ivan Ivan, notti boy, to be fair, the RE Pod, I offered my services to work with you all to speed up the inefficiency of getting them in. And at the end of it, since you rejected my offer, I had to borrow from David, which for a fact he has already paid for it, and none of your concern from then on. But no, you guys called him and gave an excuse to need to get it back right away stating reason that it was defective, after catching wind I got hold of it.
Secondly, never even bothered about bodykits, less asking you guys to pass to me for duplication. So please stop lying to gain support in this lowly manner.
Anyway, we have had our talks before and we have agreed no more BS from any sides, if certain parties can't see both sides of a story or statement, does selective thoughts and views, and insinuates making accusations of me doing **** stirring, nothing I can do too. You just have to see for yaself who is the one starting the stirring.
Ivan, u too can find out from any newcomers which have met up with me, I do not insult or even state a bad name for MG, but just put down fair non-opinionated replies to them. You go decide and seek the facts for yaself again.
And since I offered sincere compliments to MG, and u state is sarcasm, no worries mate.
Anyway, your episode and mine has already ended, no intentions to bring in a new season as well unless provoked to. Cheers mate.
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#31
Originally Posted by sqflyer
Like I said, I think a lot of people here knows what a good job MG has done on their 8s. Maybe it takes my posting here to bring out all their compliments for MG. I don't need to be smart or mature to see whether you are stirring **** or 'just disturbing CoupeM only', because I leave it to the readers to decide for themselves so my smarts or maturity has nothing to do with it.
Thanks for your 'compliments', but I think most people here know I've been a master here long before some stir-loving person grew 'pubis'.
Thanks for your 'compliments', but I think most people here know I've been a master here long before some stir-loving person grew 'pubis'.
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
the RE Pod, I offered my services to work with you all to speed up the inefficiency of getting them in.
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Master of? Disguise? BS? Gadgets? **** Stirrer? or **********?
#34
Originally Posted by sqflyer
I have no idea... You are the one that started this student/master BS. Master of gadgets ain't bad tho... the rest of the master titles you can keep "for your own use".
#35
Originally Posted by sqflyer
Wow.. I learned a new way to say making replicas. Did you intend to pay RE royalties for their design for every piece you replicate and sell? C'mon.. who are you trying to kid? Even if it's not for profit and just trying to make it cheaper for those who want the RE Pod, you are still hurting MG's and RE's business and only an idiot would believe you and pass you the RE Pod to replicate.
Their design, not like u need a NASA scientist to come up with something like that.
RE Pod, funny thing, I went through the entire item, no RE packaging, no embossment, no stickers, no made in Japan, hmmmmm.....really RE? Really made in Japan? No offence seriously, but stating from pure visual observation
Only an idiot will pass out on opportunities as well, in my opinion..
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
And at the end of it, since you rejected my offer, I had to borrow from David, which for a fact he has already paid for it, and none of your concern from then on. But no, you guys called him and gave an excuse to need to get it back right away stating reason that it was defective, after catching wind I got hold of it.
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Aiyoh, u just never learn, guess they are right, can't teach old dogs/bird new tricks....
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Their design, not like u need a NASA scientist to come up with something like that.
Only an idiot will pass out on opportunities as well, in my opinion..
Only an idiot will pass out on opportunities as well, in my opinion..
Your so called "opportunities" will hurt others... In this case, it's MG who has been a pretty good workshop for most of us here. So not everyone has no morals like you.
#39
Originally Posted by sqflyer
Alamak... think you pitcha lobang yourself... now everybody can see your intentions for trying to get hold of the RE Pod. Like I said, only an idiot would pass you the RE Pod to replicate. You claim that MG gave David the excuse that the RE Pod was defective to get it back, but David paid for it and it's none of your concern either. I don't believe MG told David it was defective (maybe David himself can shed some light here) but even if they did, it's justified because anybody in the right mind will do whatever it takes to protect their own business from unscrupulous acts.
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Survival of the fittest mate, not unscrupulous
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Nope, wish I did but the only shares I have are SingTel. I speak up when I see some unjust things being posted.
Call it what you like.. the rest of the forummers have eyes to see the likes of you.
Call it what you like.. the rest of the forummers have eyes to see the likes of you.
#41
Originally Posted by sqflyer
Then go make one yourself without the RE Pod lor. Why so hard up to get a copy of one?
Your so called "opportunities" will hurt others... In this case, it's MG who has been a pretty good workshop for most of us here. So not everyone has no morals like you.
Your so called "opportunities" will hurt others... In this case, it's MG who has been a pretty good workshop for most of us here. So not everyone has no morals like you.
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Wah, personal attack ballz, talk about my morals some more. tsk tsk
Talking about one's morals usually means talking about how one's family brought them up, I forgive you for this, but don't do it again. So my turn to be notti to u then..
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But come to think of it, nah, don't want to be as low or as short as you...
Ok, no more pointless exchanges, nite nite, Case Closed, Game Over
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Wah, personal attack ballz, talk about my morals some more. tsk tsk
Originally Posted by derekwcw
But come to think of it, nah, don't want to be as low or as short as you...
#44
Originally Posted by sqflyer
Wonder who started referring to others as dogs/birds...
OMG... now resort to short jokes? You should know better than to go there coz you're just as short. What next? Fat jokes??
OMG... now resort to short jokes? You should know better than to go there coz you're just as short. What next? Fat jokes??
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#46
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
No trademark or copyright, no patent, no royalties involved..go figure
Their design, not like u need a NASA scientist to come up with something like that.
RE Pod, funny thing, I went through the entire item, no RE packaging, no embossment, no stickers, no made in Japan, hmmmmm.....really RE? Really made in Japan? No offence seriously, but stating from pure visual observation
Only an idiot will pass out on opportunities as well, in my opinion..
Their design, not like u need a NASA scientist to come up with something like that.
RE Pod, funny thing, I went through the entire item, no RE packaging, no embossment, no stickers, no made in Japan, hmmmmm.....really RE? Really made in Japan? No offence seriously, but stating from pure visual observation
Only an idiot will pass out on opportunities as well, in my opinion..
bro, you suggesting................
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#47
Let me try to be the voice of sanity thru another one of my reviews - this time reviewing MG, since i've been using them since they first opened for biz in feb 06.
Pros:
- they have very good knowledge in rotaries, and especially so now after building up all the experience from the number of rotaries that go thru the garage each day
- their staff are approacheable, and friendly - not perfect, but infinitely better than the ****** from GarageR
- they tell things like it is - if you're wasting money on a particular mod or early oil change, and advice on how to treat your ride according to the way you want it to perform - mild or chiong
- attention to detail and finish - when they get around to your ride, they make sure the job they do is good and will follow through no matter what
- ability to diagnose and fix probs that other garages either scratch their head, or charge thru the roof. e.g. engine mounts; electrical probs; steering rack; etc
- reasonable rates vs rates by US garages; competitive labour charges; well-priced knickknacks (e.g. windscreen wipers; accessories)
Cons:
- long shipment gaps - esp for RE Amemiya stuff
- during major projects e.g. supercharging/turbos; service slots can get delayed or rescheduled
- prices sometimes do fluctuate according to currency and availability, thankfully not by much
- aftersales customer service needs to be improved, but i think they're getting there
- they're not the cheapest
I think generally, MG is excellent at what they set out to do - specializing in JDM import parts on rotaries. They are not exactly the value leader out there, but really, you get what you pay for. Especially for a shop specializing in rotaries, they're competitive in terms of rates esp when you compare them to GR. I go to MG simply because i want the very best for my 8, and be assured that there is a reliable channel for servicing, installs and troubleshooting, and that my car leaves the garage in a great condition. (Those who know me personally will tell you that even the slightest scratch on a windscreen, or a damaged part will result in me seeking damages legally) But if you don't intend to put up JDM import mods or original bodykits, there are always cheaper alternatives. For audio installs and transmission servicing, i go to specialists elsewhere.
The point is that the Consumer Knows Best. We'll know when we are kena kah (McWell); which transmission shop has the best equipment (Khang's); tyres (Poh Seng); who is the best for audio, etc. MG does have its faults, and sometimes they **** the **** out of me esp when they make me wait, but the advantages and the good points that MG has do outweigh the disadvantages, and the net result - to me - is that MG will remain my garage of choice for my 8, esp for major projects. Of course, i do go elsewhere for cheap stuff that MG may not have like generic oil catch tanks; grounding; etc. My Mazda 3, for example, still goes to Manz, JDM and Bluwell as it's a totally different budget scale altogether and everything on the 3 is chionged.
I will welcome anyone who can provide alternative products and replicas as long as its legal, done in an aboveboard manner; and is a price-performance leader - i think everyone wants that - so it doesn't matter if its an RE, RA, R21 replica, if the product performs people will buy. If it sucks, there'll be hell to pay.
Pros:
- they have very good knowledge in rotaries, and especially so now after building up all the experience from the number of rotaries that go thru the garage each day
- their staff are approacheable, and friendly - not perfect, but infinitely better than the ****** from GarageR
- they tell things like it is - if you're wasting money on a particular mod or early oil change, and advice on how to treat your ride according to the way you want it to perform - mild or chiong
- attention to detail and finish - when they get around to your ride, they make sure the job they do is good and will follow through no matter what
- ability to diagnose and fix probs that other garages either scratch their head, or charge thru the roof. e.g. engine mounts; electrical probs; steering rack; etc
- reasonable rates vs rates by US garages; competitive labour charges; well-priced knickknacks (e.g. windscreen wipers; accessories)
Cons:
- long shipment gaps - esp for RE Amemiya stuff
- during major projects e.g. supercharging/turbos; service slots can get delayed or rescheduled
- prices sometimes do fluctuate according to currency and availability, thankfully not by much
- aftersales customer service needs to be improved, but i think they're getting there
- they're not the cheapest
I think generally, MG is excellent at what they set out to do - specializing in JDM import parts on rotaries. They are not exactly the value leader out there, but really, you get what you pay for. Especially for a shop specializing in rotaries, they're competitive in terms of rates esp when you compare them to GR. I go to MG simply because i want the very best for my 8, and be assured that there is a reliable channel for servicing, installs and troubleshooting, and that my car leaves the garage in a great condition. (Those who know me personally will tell you that even the slightest scratch on a windscreen, or a damaged part will result in me seeking damages legally) But if you don't intend to put up JDM import mods or original bodykits, there are always cheaper alternatives. For audio installs and transmission servicing, i go to specialists elsewhere.
The point is that the Consumer Knows Best. We'll know when we are kena kah (McWell); which transmission shop has the best equipment (Khang's); tyres (Poh Seng); who is the best for audio, etc. MG does have its faults, and sometimes they **** the **** out of me esp when they make me wait, but the advantages and the good points that MG has do outweigh the disadvantages, and the net result - to me - is that MG will remain my garage of choice for my 8, esp for major projects. Of course, i do go elsewhere for cheap stuff that MG may not have like generic oil catch tanks; grounding; etc. My Mazda 3, for example, still goes to Manz, JDM and Bluwell as it's a totally different budget scale altogether and everything on the 3 is chionged.
I will welcome anyone who can provide alternative products and replicas as long as its legal, done in an aboveboard manner; and is a price-performance leader - i think everyone wants that - so it doesn't matter if its an RE, RA, R21 replica, if the product performs people will buy. If it sucks, there'll be hell to pay.
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#48
hi all,
firstly to all those newbies out there, please use your brains and use the bloody "SEARCH" button before shooting off another thread, what you are asking have been asked a thousand times and you are wasting server space and wasting everyone's time. You are a newbie on RX8 but are u a newbie to the internet or forums?
[B]DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE 135 THREADS ON MONSTER GARAGE!!!!!
i noe that this is to totally none of my business and i am looking in just like everyone else and i would like share with everyone my thoughts on this fiasco.
we are here in this forum because of 1 thing in common.
RX8.
the joy and passion of driving this wonderful vehicle.
this forum was created and still is for the sharing of information amongst members a place to make friends not enemies.
but to see this forum become such a hostile place is such a pity.
there are fractions in this community and there are also individuals as well as
members from the rest of the world watching and laughing at us for making a fool of ourselves.
I have my respect for Alvin and Ivan for goin out of their way to help many bros here, sharing what they know and for putting in their effort to organise the fortnightly meets.
Monster Garage is also without a doubt THE garage for rotaries amongst many members including me.
Can we bury all the hatchets, be honestly amicable to each other
and remain as friends? our personal greviances has no place on this forum.
firstly to all those newbies out there, please use your brains and use the bloody "SEARCH" button before shooting off another thread, what you are asking have been asked a thousand times and you are wasting server space and wasting everyone's time. You are a newbie on RX8 but are u a newbie to the internet or forums?
[B]DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE 135 THREADS ON MONSTER GARAGE!!!!!
i noe that this is to totally none of my business and i am looking in just like everyone else and i would like share with everyone my thoughts on this fiasco.
we are here in this forum because of 1 thing in common.
RX8.
the joy and passion of driving this wonderful vehicle.
this forum was created and still is for the sharing of information amongst members a place to make friends not enemies.
but to see this forum become such a hostile place is such a pity.
there are fractions in this community and there are also individuals as well as
members from the rest of the world watching and laughing at us for making a fool of ourselves.
I have my respect for Alvin and Ivan for goin out of their way to help many bros here, sharing what they know and for putting in their effort to organise the fortnightly meets.
Monster Garage is also without a doubt THE garage for rotaries amongst many members including me.
Can we bury all the hatchets, be honestly amicable to each other
and remain as friends? our personal greviances has no place on this forum.
#50
Originally Posted by Spykie
Flyer, I guess all who has already experienced the services and professionalism of MG will KNOW for ourselves whether they're worth our compliments. No question on your Master status mate...
Sometimes we do need to check ourselves on the motives of some of the comments made here. For some, if all you do is to check prices, bullshitting and pretend to be an expert with the guys in MG, I dun think you should be commenting in this post at all!
For those new owners looking for minor or major mods, I guess MG is indeed a great place to get genuine, trustworthy and proven parts at reasonable prices, and not some unimpressive prices for some cheap china "cheong" stuff. For me, I'm just satisfied with every dollar I spent on my 8 in MG. But that's just for me...
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Sometimes we do need to check ourselves on the motives of some of the comments made here. For some, if all you do is to check prices, bullshitting and pretend to be an expert with the guys in MG, I dun think you should be commenting in this post at all!
For those new owners looking for minor or major mods, I guess MG is indeed a great place to get genuine, trustworthy and proven parts at reasonable prices, and not some unimpressive prices for some cheap china "cheong" stuff. For me, I'm just satisfied with every dollar I spent on my 8 in MG. But that's just for me...