celeste84

Hi to all out here,
I am thinking to get either one of the above mention ride.
Could not decide it(headache man)
RX8 selling at $113,000 (6mt from agent)
IntegraR $103,000(from Garage R)

I dont intend to track(no confidence), zipping around in this tiny city is more good enuff for me :roll:

Only thing i know about the rx8 is that it consume lots of petrol, but the looks and interior simply makes me hard to forget.

As for the integra abit lian*(sorry if my remarks offend any1) for me, but the performance should be quite good right?

Needs lots of comments btw this 2 ride as in performance and etc 0-100?la bla bla

Thanks!!!
Need to get rid of my current IS200(quite underpowered for a 2 ltr auto with pathetic of 10plus sec for 0-100 on 18" though)

mkl22

i have the 8 and a good friend DC5R. DC5R confirm faster in a straight line. both cars stock stock. can feel that dc5r is lighter and more nimble.
I guess it depends on what you are after, speed, handling, interior, drive feel etc.

But DC5R interior sucks man. your money is spent on the engine and chassis. its pretty noisy too. suspension and road noise. its a FWD so it drives like one and you can feel the weight in front. vtec pull is not too bad but slightly less exciting that the rx8.i think DC5R is more like a semi track car.

the rx8 has a better driving position and feel. it feels like a sports car la. chassis balance is also easily felt. DC5r feels like a normal saloon when you sit inside in the drivers seat, nothing special. the rx8 has more of the jinba itai(horse and rider as one) feeling. you sit closer to the ground and everything is more connected. but you also feel more heat from the exhaust and transmission. the center console can get pretty hot. idling in traffic, the center cupholders can keep coffee pretty warm.

for FC i get about 8km/l and the DC5R about 10km/l.

Overall i would prefer the RX8 , quite glad i didn't get the DC5R which was also on my list. main thing for me was the drive feel which not many cars can replicate.

I would think a better comparison to rx8 will be the golf gti.

cc546

mkl22,
is that ya friend who is selling his dc5?
how come 7 months onli he is selling his ride?

Celeste,
I am driving the manual version, personally i felt for normal driving changing gear at around 3500rpm the car dont feels like like normal car, but once you drag the gear up to 8500rpm its totally different, one word shiock!

darkelfin

sorry but u mention u dun intend to track and only zipping ard in city so the 0-100 to u makes no diff leh. for city driving, dun think u can tell the difference in performance leh. anywayz, i think the 8 has more rear headroom than the DC5. a point quite impt for me but not sure for others cuz i always ferry my parents ard and they sit behind.

but anyway, if u really interested, i remembered there was a thread last time tat actually compared the two. u might wanna do a search. cheers.

pyro

before I bought the 8, I actually wanted to buy the integra GSR....but after comparing the interior, the 8 win hands down. The difference between the DC5 and GSR is in the hood, but the interior like some of the bros here mentioned is just very basic, unlike the 8 which shouts class...

lawreo

i also wanted to buy the integra initially too....but once i got my eyes on the PI RX8, its 8 all the way....additional point to note ...if you are a frequent zipper around the city, then might want to consider auto....more comfortable and can cheong occasionally with the triptronic thingy.....anyway 6AT coming soon....should be quite shiok ...too bad i just bought the 4AT...but play with 4 gears also quite okay...sometimes cannot even reach 4th gear kanna traffic lights liao

my 2 cents

CURRENT9

Well said...... spot on dude.....you really know the RX8... cheers

Emperor

I, too was caught between a DC5 and Rx8. But i finally decided on the rx8. But either car will be good anyway. If its all out performance, my choice would have been DC5. But for everything else, its the 8.

mkl22

well i guess he considered his options. either dump more money to make the dc5r marginally faster or get an EVO.

Freestyle

My good friend has the DC5 and I'm driving the RX-8. I sit in it quite frequently, so I can give you some comparisons.

Acceleration-wise, I think his DC5 can makan my car for breakfast, lunch and dinner (I'm driving the 4AT, but those driving 6MT will be able to match the DC5). Balance-wise as mkl22 mentioned, the RX-8 feels better and more like a sports car. My friend drove my RX-8 for a short while (like 5 mins) and he mentioned that it handles much better than his DC5. And likewise for interior, the DC5 doesn't feel special.

The RX8 turns head much more than a DC5, and it makes you feel special even when nobody is looking. The only drawback is the fuel consumption.

The DC5 is really powerful, and the best point is the fuel consumption to performance ratio - Honda really put a lot of work into making VTEC technology powerful when you need it, and yet frugal when you drive normally (my friend got 10-12 on his DC5, I'm getting 6.5-6.8 on my 4AT). I don't totally agree that the rotary sounds better, as the VTEC really sounds crazily exciting at 6-7k rpm too. But I do agree that the construction of the DC5 is not up to par with the RX8, and most of your money is going into the engine. Everything (almost) feels better on the RX8.

Personally, I'll go for the RX8 unless I travel alot and fuel consumption hurts. If you ask me to pay for the DC5, I'd rather get a EVO 9 GT a little bit more, and get a lot more performance and safety. But of course, the DC5's strength is the perfect balance of power and fuel economy, which is why my friend who's in sales and travels a lot (he used to own a WRX and a STi) bought it. Different horses for different courses - you can't go wrong with either...

Jimmy(wow)

Hi celeste,

This 2 cars are of different character, DC5 is more built base on performance car chasis, whereas Rx8 is built base on design and it unique 4 doors coupe. DC5 is a NA 2 litre coupe, whereas Rx8 is a twin rotary 1.3 engine. So it all depend which area u looking at? Performance will be DC5, design and feel would be the 8.
Other than that the price difference...

Jimmy

celeste84

hey all,
Thanks for all your reply
Most likely after considering, i think i will go for the rx8.
How bout service intervals?
I guess is a long wait, have to wait for 3 months for the rx8 to come...
Anyway wats the main diff btw the PI 6mt and MM6mt?

Oh ya, i have a microtech Lt8 standalone ecu from my bro(he use it in his gc8 wrx)
Can it be fitted in the 8?

Jimmy(wow)

Hi celeste,

The service interval recommended is at every 5000km, 3 months is a normal waiting time for a Rx8.
The main differnce between PI and MM is the price difference and OMV, other than that MM Bhp is 235, PI is at 250Bhp, PI without sunroof, MM comes with sunroof.

Jimmy

rayshaw23

yo, does that mean all PI 6mt doesnt come with sunroof at all? those people in jap dont drive rx8 with sunroof? thats weird

darkelfin

think he meant one is an option while the other is standard.

snowflake8888

acty, i am another joker who had to choose between the integra type R and rx8....no complants here. Because:

(i) there are too many Integras. you are nothing special.

(ii) cos there are too many Integras, modding it is useless cos 80% of them are also modded and you are still nothing special.

(iii) if you dont track, you wont have much place in the city to go 0-100 (unless you are a late night driver). At 80kmh if you dont hit the next traffic light and have to test your brakes, you will most definitely get stuck behind a slower car in front of you. My friend commented that my working hours are fantastic for a sports car. Zero traffic. Green lights everywhere.

(iv) sunroof in singapore is for you to see the bird droppings over your head - and the culpit bird in question flapping off. Also for you to breathe carbon monoxide, sand, chemical laden dust and fart from the outside world. And when the rubber goes brittle and the seals go wonky.....you get a new mod: a H20 drip to dilute the warm coffee in your nuclear heated cup holders.

(v) if that 2 litre VTEC (unmodded) can't go faster than your 1.3 l rotary ...they should stick their dong into your rotary and castrate themselves. But ask them to lubricate with RE Amemiya rotary oil before they do it. Makes it easier on your engine.

(vi) The 8 turns heads. The driver turns them back again hehehehehehe.....

(vii) Most importantly, no one buys sports cars for fuel efficiency. If you want to play, have the money to pay for the power to stop at the next traffic light faster than the guy next to you. Otherwise, buy a honda jazz.

(viii) We need more hot babes driving 8s around here. Pls redirect all belly/fat driver jokes to this thread - https://www.rx8club.com/far-east-asia-38/8-opposite-sex-96109/page3/

jondog

get a dc5 if you wanna go full performance on street or track, whichever. vtec was not invented for the normal day driving, so mite as well use it to the fullest. dc5 looks very nice for a coupe, only bad point is the 'cockpit' position where you will find it hard to see the rear often. reverse sensors come into play then i guess. also a fact, dc5 will tear away on any given str8 stretch, if you are comparing to a 8. its been proven, so no argueing over that fact. (note: both rides stock condition). lastly, when the VTEC kui aka as opens, its a very, very impressive sound, and sight, to see. i had bad opinions on the performance of the integras before, but after running a couple fo times with my friends who own a few, its pretty much a different issue there. if you thought normal sirs, esis, vtis can be modded fast, wait till you see a fully modded dc5 alongside you on the streets. i like the shape as it is stock tho.....but like i said earlier....the rear is too high up to see anything most of the time!!!

get a 8 because you love and want to experience the rotary feeling.....and the suicide doors. =) 230 odd ponies under the hood which looks cool, plus the fact that the 8 is such a lovely car, minus the slightly fattish front (stock), it has more than enuff horse for you to gallop your way from point A to Z in a jiffy. plus its still NA. fuel consumption will be affected IF you aren't wary of that right foot. 6-spd gear box is short and tight, making changing very, very smooth. unlike the FCs and FDs where you sometimes have to go aftermarket short shifters, the 8 comes with a nice snug one, almost similar to the MX5s. (hehehe......i just HAD to say that hor guys.....!!!) downside of the 8, IMHO, is the power still. for a company that has built one of the most unique engines in the world still standing, apart from the flat6s, vtecs, opposings, etc., the 8 is pretty still quite under powered. but then again, maybe Mazeeda wanted something more subtle for the everyday driver, instead of the hardcore lunatics in the 7s........


lastly celeste, you noted that your current IS200 is underpowered?? just my 2-cents sis: you can't compare a 2L auto and a 2L manual in terms of power. your running 18" also, mind i ask what are the weights of each rim?

the Lexus IS200 is about class, and the image when anyone is driving that ride. the lexus badge is different totally from the toyota altezzas too, because lexus was primarily bought over by Toyota to be the luxury line for their parent company. Thats why lexus is so huge over in the states.....its supposed to be for retirees (who are about 75% of most Lexus owners there!!). So, what i'm trying to say is that, try to compare apples and apples......is200 is a cool ride, and i wouldn't mind getting one in the near future.....


hope ya get whichever ride soon.....cheers!

whiteX

i got it frm PI. 6mt. wif sunroof

poisson

Correct me if I am wrong, in addition to what Jimmy mentioned, PI 6MT which is also called the Type S does not have the following vis-a-vis MM 6MT:

1. Rear boot spoiler
2. Leather seat
3. Electric driver seat
4. 2SRS (airbags) versus 6 SRS (airbags from MM)

Of course, the other KEY difference I think is warranty - MM is 3 yrs or 100,000Km whichever comes first; most PIs are offering only 1 year and say 20,000 - 30,000km. And what worries me is that warranty from most of these PIs for RX8 is basically worthless because most do not have workshops that are capable of servicing the car (so even if give you 5 yrs -so what!?!?!). IMHO, I think only MonsterG and Garage R are reputable ones besides MM workshop. If I have to buy from a PI, it has to be one which has tie-ups with these workshops.

sqflyer

There are a few other minor differences, such as 2 oil coolers for MM spec vs 1 oil cooler for PI spec, headlight washers and seat warmers (Mmm....my fav) from MM and none from PI and folding side mirrors from PI and none from MM just to name a few. Can do a search on previous threads on this topic in the Far East forum for more details.

celeste84

HI all thanks for all your reply/advise,
HAve book a evo 9 today,
Drove my friend evo today and really love the pulling force of turbo!

Sorry for troubling you guys earlier on,

Can i still catch up with u guys, like meet up or whatsoeva?
Still can have some pointers from u all mah...
Next knowing u guys in forum.....

darkelfin

wot?? u got an evo! no, u cannot meet us liaoz..... just kidding. bleah. :p

Emperor

Ventilated or air-con seats maybe but seat warmers? We are still in SG right?

Talking about DC5 and 8s. I wonder if anyone is incredible enough to drop a k20 engine in the 8. That would be a modders dream. But then again, the 8 is about being rotary.

coupe07

yeap, u got him right. Seat warmers from Mazda motors.

K20 wise.... most prob not much space and will affect the power to weight ratio. No more 50/50 distribution....

20B in the rx8... now make it into a reality and that will be the fastest NA rx8.

jondog

Steady.......pulling force of evo aint totally spectacular yet after you've sat in a FD or FC......=)