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Old 08-03-2005 | 10:20 AM
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Simota Aero Carbon Kevlar AirIntake

Any one knows would is the Singapore Dealer for Simota.

The Carbon Kevlar Air intake looks very good in design , much better than the USA made ones..

I believe its also much cheaper compare to RB and K&N ones.
Cos this more is made in Taiwan

http://www.simota.com/pro_fitting09.php
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:27 AM
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That looks sweet!
Old 08-03-2005 | 11:30 AM
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That's the intake I intend to check out. One of the shops brought in a shipment but it's the old model similar looking to the old K&N Typhoon Intake. The newer model "Carbon Fiber Aero Form Intake" is not available in Singapore yet. Will try to get group lobang for forum members.
Old 08-03-2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by morganoh
Any one knows would is the Singapore Dealer for Simota.

The Carbon Kevlar Air intake looks very good in design , much better than the USA made ones..

I believe its also much cheaper compare to RB and K&N ones.
Cos this more is made in Taiwan

http://www.simota.com/pro_fitting09.php
this is the one dat many of us are waiting..... fyi, its not carbon kevlar... taiwan wun give u such stuff at such price... its fibre glass with carbon fibre sticker exterior......

as for singapore dealer, let sq find out more and arrange.... :D
Old 08-03-2005 | 01:04 PM
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this is the one dat many of us are waiting..... fyi, its not carbon kevlar... taiwan wun give u such stuff at such price... its fibre glass with carbon fibre sticker exterior......

as for singapore dealer, let sq find out more and arrange.... :D

http://www.simota.com/pro_in_fiber.php

The 1st 3 lines states

"BMW Aero Form Air Intaks System
Performance & Style
Material: High modulus carbon fiber construction braided with Kevlar."
Old 08-03-2005 | 01:06 PM
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http://www.simota.com/pro_in_fiber.php

The 1st 2 lines below the photo of the 2 Blue filter

"100%
Carbon Fibre Intake Kit for your BIMMER."
Old 08-03-2005 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by morganoh
http://www.simota.com/pro_in_fiber.php

The 1st 3 lines states

"BMW Aero Form Air Intaks System
Performance & Style
Material: High modulus carbon fiber construction braided with Kevlar."
when u purchase the intake, look at the inside, then see if it is carbon fibre or fibre glass outside pasted with carbon fibre sticker.... the difference very obvious one....

the real carbon kevlar are expensive stuff....

how much is the intake?
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:05 PM
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and by the way, we have oredi spoken to the singapore distributor way back during the dreamcast asia show abt simota and have seen the real thing, albeit not for the rx8.....

its confirmed fibreglass material, exterior pasted with carbon fibre sticker...... many of us have seen it and even feel it........
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by coupe07
when u purchase the intake, look at the inside, then see if it is carbon fibre or fibre glass outside pasted with carbon fibre sticker.... the difference very obvious one....

the real carbon kevlar are expensive stuff....

how much is the intake?

I dont know how much , I dont even know who the dealers are. cos its not stated on the website.
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:42 PM
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Always get the feeling certain Simota models look like the GruppeM.
Old 08-04-2005 | 08:20 AM
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Morganoh,

PMed you the dealer contact liao.....
Old 08-07-2005 | 05:56 AM
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Had spoken to Jason, the one who did my car grounding... he claims that someone had used the simota filter before, can't remember what car.... The filter crack due to the vibration when the filter is sucking in the air.... so kind of scary...
Old 08-07-2005 | 06:17 AM
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Old 08-07-2005 | 08:25 AM
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Simota's new model of filter is supposedly better than K&N in terms of warping due to heat, which K&N is famous for, but not sure about resistance to vibration. For about half the price of K&N, I'll give it a go and see how it works. Anyway, they come with a "million mile warranty" from the local agent, so it should be fairly safe. If there's a problem, they'll replace the part.
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
Simota's new model of filter is supposedly better than K&N in terms of warping due to heat, which K&N is famous for, but not sure about resistance to vibration. For about half the price of K&N, I'll give it a go and see how it works. Anyway, they come with a "million mile warranty" from the local agent, so it should be fairly safe. If there's a problem, they'll replace the part.

I think it look good too. I have seen the Simota filter at todays Drag Race at Marina South. They are selling the Simota Filter kit at 400 plus, which I think can get cheaper.
SQFlyer : Do let me know if you wish to have a group buy. I am interested. Actually I also quite like the design of the new K&N filter kit.

Cheers and waiting for your good news !
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Originally Posted by des453
Had spoken to Jason, the one who did my car grounding... he claims that someone had used the simota filter before, can't remember what car.... The filter crack due to the vibration when the filter is sucking in the air.... so kind of scary...

hi bro bro des456 and coupe7

And every one i am whitesnail.

The event takes place when the filter is placed in our air filter box for matrix. At high temp in engine bay, the head of the expoxy parts of filter cracked. And twice it happen.

It could be the compact area in our filter box + heat, causing the fitted box cone filter to crack.
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Originally Posted by coupe07
and by the way, we have oredi spoken to the singapore distributor way back during the dreamcast asia show abt simota and have seen the real thing, albeit not for the rx8.....

its confirmed fibreglass material, exterior pasted with carbon fibre sticker...... many of us have seen it and even feel it........

To be the most prefered will be those with smooth inner surface area for air to flow smoothly. External is not so much of a concern.

Fibreglass is good for strength, carbon fibre is for light weight and kevlar is for bullet prove.

If were to use carbon fibre to do the ducting, the surface to show carbon texiture is in inner wall. So after assembly the filter into this heat shield, one could no longer see the carbon fibre surface.

The mould used to make external carbon fibre look is "female" mould.
The exact mould should be "male" mould, as to get smooth inner surface when the finished product removed the mould. But this will have a rough external surface.
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To be the most prefered will be those with smooth inner surface area for air to flow smoothly. External is not so much of a concern.

Fibreglass is good for strength, carbon fibre is for light weight and kevlar is for bullet prove.

If were to use carbon fibre to do the ducting, the surface to show carbon texiture is in inner wall. So after assembly the filter into this heat shield, one could no longer see the carbon fibre surface.

The mould used to make external carbon fibre look is "female" mould.
The exact mould should be "male" mould, as to get smooth inner surface when the finished product removed the mould. But this will have a rough external surface.
the expert has spoken....

Dear all,
whitesnail bro is the one dat is doing the grounding for our cars. His name is jason, and i have posted his contacts in one of my threads, but anyway, those looking to do grounding, he is the man.
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had just let whitesnail to do up my grounding on my nearly 2 months old 8. Will be doing some comparison during the meetup tonight, before i start a new threat regarding this topic.. Any way as what coupe07 claims........."he is the man" and not only grounding, there is other stuff that he might be able to help us on our 8.!
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Originally Posted by coupe07
this is the one dat many of us are waiting..... fyi, its not carbon kevlar... taiwan wun give u such stuff at such price... its fibre glass with carbon fibre sticker exterior......

as for singapore dealer, let sq find out more and arrange.... :D

This is what I learn today from my Step-Brother, He is doing customize parts in Fiber Glass and Carbon Fiber.

The Simota Aero Carbon Kevlar Airintake is Carbon Kelvar.
How to tell???

U will see the 3D Back white square on the front surface.
Thats Carbon Cloth . (how to tell real of fake ones??? Real ones has 3 Dimensional effect, fake one don't)
Original Kevlar color is yellowish and can add dye / colors into it.

U see the rough surface at the back , thats Fiber Glass.
Its use to Strength the whole thing.

As for those who has seen before both side with Black and White Carbon Squares. and think that only this is Real Carbon fiber...
Not true.
Cos those has both side with Carbon look uses the Vaccum Process and its a very expensive process. to produce both side carbon look. (whats the Vacuum Process? I don't know but can find out )

So those who wanted to custom make carbon fiber or fiber glass parts can as my brother to do it. Theres only 2-3 people that does this in Spore.
(those Rx8 with A-pillar Guage housing either bought original from factorys or they may be done by him, but most is done my him )
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Thanks for the clarification... that makes the new Simota intake a very good deal then. Again, the issue now is WHEN the stock arrives. According to the distributor, still not in SG yet. Will update you guys again when the stock is in. Shucks, forgot your step-brother works on CF. Anyway, send my regards to Allan.
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Originally Posted by morganoh
This is what I learn today from my Step-Brother, He is doing customize parts in Fiber Glass and Carbon Fiber.

The Simota Aero Carbon Kevlar Airintake is Carbon Kelvar.
How to tell???

U will see the 3D Back white square on the front surface.
Thats Carbon Cloth . (how to tell real of fake ones??? Real ones has 3 Dimensional effect, fake one don't)
Original Kevlar color is yellowish and can add dye / colors into it.

U see the rough surface at the back , thats Fiber Glass.
Its use to Strength the whole thing.

As for those who has seen before both side with Black and White Carbon Squares. and think that only this is Real Carbon fiber...
Not true.
Cos those has both side with Carbon look uses the Vaccum Process and its a very expensive process. to produce both side carbon look. (whats the Vacuum Process? I don't know but can find out )

So those who wanted to custom make carbon fiber or fiber glass parts can as my brother to do it. Theres only 2-3 people that does this in Spore.
(those Rx8 with A-pillar Guage housing either bought original from factorys or they may be done by him, but most is done my him )
bro, the distributor himself told us explicitly that the whole thing is made of fibreglass, only the exterior pasted with carbon sticker, then a coat of invisible finish........ it is fibreglass, not carbon kevlar...
Old 08-09-2005 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by coupe07
bro, the distributor himself told us explicitly that the whole thing is made of fibreglass, only the exterior pasted with carbon sticker, then a coat of invisible finish........ it is fibreglass, not carbon kevlar...
Bro, judging from my experience dealing with our local distributor thus far, I'm not surprised if they don't really know the product 100%. Not sure if Simota would dare to advertise carbon kevlar if it isn't true too. So *shrug*... maybe it is, and maybe it isn't... juz gotta wait and see.
Old 08-09-2005 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by coupe07
bro, the distributor himself told us explicitly that the whole thing is made of fibreglass, only the exterior pasted with carbon sticker, then a coat of invisible finish........ it is fibreglass, not carbon kevlar...


simota may not be lying.

Cos this is what they can do.

Make A fiber Glass housing. then stick a layer of Real Carbon Kevlar cloth on top then a coat of finishing coating.

In this way its still consider as Carbon Kevlar.
So they are telling the truth , its just that its a cheaper way of making Carbon Kevlar products.

(theres a product , Carbon cloth sticker. it uses Real Carbon Cloth. )
If u went to Marina sth u can find it at one of the booth at the corner closer n behind subaru)

If u are free can get my brother to do some custom work for u ., then u can see how Carbon fiber produces are make)
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
Bro, judging from my experience dealing with our local distributor thus far, I'm not surprised if they don't really know the product 100%. Not sure if Simota would dare to advertise carbon kevlar if it isn't true too. So *shrug*... maybe it is, and maybe it isn't... juz gotta wait and see.
I believe that its definitely Carbon Kevlar , its maybe of a lower quality.

Taiwan is one place where they will try not to advertise its Carbon Kevlar and give the customers Fiber glass products.
Its just like USA. in taiwan people always sue each other . Imagine what the customers will do if they get a fiber glass product thinking its Carbon Kevlar.

(Just take a watch the everyday Taiwan news and take a look at politicials during their meetings)


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