morganoh

According to the D2 dealer in Singapore he sold 3-4 sets of D2 suspension (purple color) to the Rx8 Club members.

Its price at S$1750 with 1 yr 1 to 1 exchange warranty

Need to find out who bought it and if they can give me some feedback on the suspension.

http://www.d2racing.com.tw/

jetblast

bluder gab aka virus has a set of D2 :D

morganoh

Good or bad?

Its fully adjustable, Front can be adjusted by opening the car bonnet but the rear u hav to jack up the car and remove the suspension before u can adjust it.

If it has a cable that allow me to adjust the rear like the HKS I would be very interested in buying it.
But anyway , is it very important to adjust the rear?
or
Just leave the rear at one setting and adjust the front if u change from normal driving to Track driving?

jetblast

wad? gotta jack it up

takahashi

Beware having anything that you think it is adjustable that it must be good.

You know the handling of the 8's stock suspension is very very good. You have to drive the suspension - try it out before thinking of buying it.

coupe07

stock ones still have bodyrolls... hard n fast cornering, the car will shake a bit..... but it more than suffice if its normal street drive....

takahashi

I have to disagree on that. I have strut and sway bars and track my car for a year.

I realise that I have to be very carefully choose my suspension - cost it is not the case of "any suspension is better than stock anymore"

Alan Horsley share the same view. He has put a few suspension on the Australian Mazda RX-8 turbo but went back to tbe 8's stock ones.
How many suspension do you know is popular in Australia, I can think of Koni, Whiteline, DMS, and possibly Bilstein

coupe07

i have my struts and and sways as well. both from autoexe. strut is 4 point front n rear.

one "guru" has sat in my car before and felt that comparing mine to his, mine has a fair share of bodyroll while cornering... while his, with changed suspension, can better cornering abilities....

its actually to each his own. The stock sus is actually more comfort biased....

sgrenesis

hey takashi, how bout aragosta.

takahashi

I have not tried much suspension to be honest but I read a lot about them.

What is the Chinese saying, "Talk war on papers??" :p

Anyhow, they distinguish strongly between street and winding suspension from the track use suspension. The reason they do that is to suit the type of road being use, and also the tyre and wheels they are carrying.

Aragosta for the RX-8 is very heavily set and it is classified as the track suspension. Takashi Ohi (the famous Japanese motor racer and instructor) loves the Aragosta suspension, but he commented on the track perspective - and I think it will do well on the track but absorbing bumps on the normal road I am not sure....

I am looking something in the middle like HKS Hypermax, Tein flex or the Cusco Zero-2

takahashi

I actually dream of the HKS made Fujita FM801. F/10 R/6. But I can't find an HKS to service here so ... I maybe going for the Tein which can be serviced in Australia :o

lohsk

HKS and Tein.... good stuff... I'm planning to put a set of Teins but super street for me....

I'm am not a track kind of guy.

coupe07

cusco zero-2 is up there with aragosta, bro......

Mugo

Progressive feel from some limited bodyrolls provide you with feedback and allowances during your corner.

The road is not perfectly flat. Unless your suspensions will be for the sole purpose of tracking, you do face potential dangers with spirited driving on a normal road.

With no available roll and that allowance, during a near limit turn, any bumps you encounter will be magnified easily when one of your wheels completely lose traction.

I personally prefer predictability and sacrifice the higher tolerances granted by stiffer suspensions. At the end of the day, the turn is defined by the driver's inputs and corrections and his/her relationship with the tyres. Like Takahashi said, "Talking War on Paper." I'm guilty. :o

takahashi

It is a touch softer me thinks

Flex is actually aiming to more road to track. Zero-2 is more both. Aragosta is more track. But yeah Cusco may be too hard core for me.... but I am tempted as I have other cars to drive...

For all round performace - you just cannot go past Bilstein - agree? :D

sgrenesis

Actually i myself got the tein flex with the edfc and generally on the whole the suspension is quite good and seriously the edfc does work.
Took a few people for rides before and ask them if they felt the difference with the hardest and the softest setting and all feedback that it was very obvious. So those who intend to get the edfc, dont worry its not only for show one.

As for suspension I do feel abit of body roll when i corner and that scares me a bit cause i never did any form of racing at all before even on the streets so am not really sure if thats good or not.
Sounds funny but i would prefer to have a suspension that doesnt require me to know or adjust anything to it, just need to corner and let the suspension "handle the rest" but back in the real world i have to "hope for the best".

takahashi

nice report:

It will be a great play on the track with my instructor for the perfect setting

4-TOOTH

hello all ... I am new to the forum although have been reading it for quite a while now without actually registering myself.

Quite interesting for you all to discuss on the suspension issue... yeah I just check from ST the TEIN type flex will coz you around $2280. Was told that the super street is actually a lower quality TEIN products and only cost ~$1800 but made in Taiwan or else the FLEX is made in Japan. The EDFC is around $680.

Check the CUSCO zero 2 also but was actually hoping for the zero 2 R but it is not available for our RX8. (only zero2) In fact I do not know how well the cusco handles but the ride comfort for the zero 2 R is actually very comfortable on the softest setting.

Myself is in the middle of settling for a aftermarket coilover something of cusco zero 2 r range and could anyone out there give me some pointers wat brand and model I should be looking at? Use the car track too therefore would appreciate a firmer suspension but not to the point you cannot live with it everyday.

Also hopefully the suspension can be easily available in singapore so that the servicing can be done without hassle. All suggestions are appreciated.

coupe07

AS always, ST powered always has Tein Flex for rx8......

toking abt comfort, If u wan track type of suspension, u have to compromise on comfort. Like the saying goes, u wan performance, no comfort.

The cusco zero2 is actually quite well balanced and is very well-reviewed in one of the rx8 mags. Cusco has also come out with the EDFC lookalike and that shld be a welcome addition too, makes ur damping adjustments a breeze.

I'm currently on Knight Sports Aragosta. Ride is hard, in fact very stiff. However, gliding thru corners is a breeze. On Spore roads, its not as practical. How many times u glide thru corners? And how many times u encounter bumpers on roads? Weigh the pros n cons and answers are right before u.

U will be on spore roads 90% of the times so get something not so stiff...... Y did i get knight sports tuned aragosta suspension??? Long story behind.... tell u when we meet...

jetblast

bluder! u are back

coupe07

im always back, bro..... when u joining us for another boozing session?

4-TOOTH

Looks like the cusco seems like a good choice for now? Mcwell has a set but was still looking around. The Aragosta .. hmm ... I think it will be too ex for me for an upgrade since I am not taking track days as some sort of competition driving. JIC? HKS ? any feedback ? willing to spend max 3k for the set so ... hmm .... still deciding.

coupe07

JIC is very stiff and is mainly for tracks. However the price may jus turn u on.

A few of the guys are using HKS hipermax. Offhand i already noe 4 of them using HKS. They shld be able to tell u how it is. Moreover it shld be well within ur budget.

3K budget for suspension - a lot of choices. Again wat u choose depends on the level of comfort u wan.

4-TOOTH

Thanks Coupe7,

Hmm .... looks like HKS for now. Yeah I would have thot JIC will be something like Aragosta .....but still deciding. Till someone gives me the feedback on HKS. Any idea wats the diff between HKS Hypermax RS and Hypermax 2?? BOut adjusting the damper setting on HKS will it be too difficult? I mean can I do it myself easily at the track itself ?

coupe07

let the HKS guys answer u.... they are in a better position.