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Old 09-26-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
ok the GT-R and 911 turbo both having inferior power and torque /weight ratio to the Z06 are faster at the ring despite being quite a bit heavier than the Z06... what does that say about the z06 platform and its handling?
That your bench racing skills are impeccable?

Joking aside, I just would prefer lighter RWD vs. heavier AWD. Personal preference, nothing more.

And I have great faith in the Z06 platform, GM has clearly learned quite a bit in their C5-R and C6-R efforts. Go to a track day and see what the Z06 can do. I'm anxious to see the GT-R at a track day, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I'm also impressed with the late Z06. The handling and suspension tuning really seems to have matured. But matured doesn't mean that it's polished. It's still using the primal formula of brute force over finesse.

I bet it's far scarier putting down a screaming lap with a Z06 than with an AWD GT-R.

I also hear the shifter on the Z06 is the pits. Driving a car with a lousy shifter is as bad or worse than driving with a slushbox.
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i think this topic should be in the GTR vs ZO6 thread. this thread is for the upcoming GTR and other revelent info. not this vs that
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teh gtr will desimant all IF you put about 10-15 grand into, and over night parts from japan
Old 09-26-2007, 08:03 PM
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You can see the videos of it spanking the 911 Turob HERE! Cars not out yet and its busting track times yum
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
teh gtr will desimant all IF you put about 10-15 grand into, and over night parts from japan
And a ZO6 could desimate all you would save a ton on shipping!!
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Originally Posted by dynamho
It's also RUMORED that since matching the 911 turbo is in the bag, the GT-R is gunning for Carrera GT's time of 7:28.
I think people are in an uproar over just that...rumors. Some unknown held a stopwatch, and all of a sudden the 911 TT is toast. Next victim? The new GT2. Yeah right . Big porker, sedan-based, AWD, and they're going to outdo the 31xx pound Carrera GT that was piloted by Porsche's test driver who knows the 'Ring 100 times better than RX-8 owners know their engine oil dipsticks.
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I read unconfirmed reports that the ZO6 lapped the Ring in the low 7:40s.
When Von Saurma and AutoMotor run all these supposed 7:3x cars there on the same day and make the times official is when I'll believe it. Till then it's all hearsay.
New GT-R was hand clocked at 7:38 and is now gunning for 7:28.
And the Kabura with the 1.55L is already at 7:45 from what I read on the internetz. And this was with it running on doughnut spares. With an R compound I say the :20s are within reach.
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Originally Posted by RX26b
When Von Saurma and AutoMotor run all these supposed 7:3x cars there on the same day and make the times official is when I'll believe it. Till then it's all hearsay.
Even if Von Saurma and Automotor run these side by side, it's still hearsay, albeit to a lesser degree. Winds and barometric pressure change throughout the day. Furthermore, even the most consistent driver can vary by seconds in the Ring.

I doubt these publications have the time to do a battery of runs to arrive at a convincing statistical spread for EACH car in question. With that in mind even "official" times are questionable.
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
teh gtr will desimant all IF you put about 10-15 grand into, and over night parts from japan
Bah...it's just another car. 10-15K into an Exige and people could say the same thing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the GT-R will be fantastic. But if I saw it at a track day, I would give it no more credit than the Z06, Ford GT, Ferrari Challenge, 400+hp RX-7s, 400+hp EVOs, 01-04 Cobras, etc...basically numerous other track worthy cars.
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in the article they said an unknown driver, another driver i cant remember the name and the same driver who ran the Carrer GT at the ring were driving the GTR at the ring. they have 3 GTR spaced a minute apart testing on the track, i would think it is the 3 models of the GTR but i also read somewhere that it might be the base model.

Its all hype but it is great hype!
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
But if I saw it at a track day, I would give it no more credit than the Z06, Ford GT, Ferrari Challenge, 400+hp RX-7s, 400+hp EVOs, 01-04 Cobras, etc...basically numerous other track worthy cars.
Just curious what would you give credit to at the track?
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Originally Posted by lesper4
Just curious what would you give credit to at the track?
Any of those cars I listed...I said I would give the GT-R "no more credit than..." but I hold the cars I listed in very high esteem for track worthiness. I'm sure I'll hold the GT-R in the same category.
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
teh gtr will desimant all IF you put about 10-15 grand into, and over night parts from japan
This was actually a "fast & furious" quote, i didn't mean it literally haha
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
This was actually a "fast & furious" quote, i didn't mean it literally haha
My fault, thankfully, I've never seen the fast and furiuos.
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