06 WRX Dynos starting to show up
10-20-2005, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aoshi Shinomori
The car really is an amazing performance value. One thing I really like about the WRX is that it is a viable winter car as well as summer fun car. Thumbs up to Subaru for putting together a cheap, fun car for the whole year.
<-- I was told this is a Suby driver 
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10-20-2005, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I'm not upset about anything. It's just dissapointing that's all. People who love fast cars but don't like spending a fortune on them (like RX-8 owners for example) shouldn't feel threatened when a thread like this pops up. Hey if anything I should be the one feeling threatened as an Evo owner. The WRX crowd is always gunning for the Evo. To think that a simple tune could put the new $25k '06 WRX at roughly the same power levels as a $30k Evo is humbling to the DSM crowd, although I'm actually excited. This is exactly the type of stuff that breeds competition between car companies competing for our hard-earned dollars. Nothing negative could possibly come to anybody as a result of the new WRX. In fact it's probably one of the best things that could happen to those of us who don't think performance should have to come in a $50k M3 or Corvette. I'm very anxious to see how the rest of the market responds.
Remember that this whole factory turbo-charged, pocket tuner scene began with the WRX in 2001. That car was the standard for performance at a reasonable price. Anybody with a decent job could afford one. Since the WRX hit the USDM 5 years ago there's been a rat race from other manufacturers to compete with it...Mazdaspeed Protege, Nissan Spec V, Dodge SRT-4, Chevy Cobalt SS, etc.
And make no mistake, if WRX sales weren't what they were Mistubishi would have never brought over the Evo and Subaru would never had to answer with a USDM STi. The WRX started a lot of the tuner craze and it's only fair it's back near the top of the list.
I didn't mean to flame. My apologies to anybody who thought I was angry or anything like that. I was just trying to direct something at the fanbois in here in a somewhat funny way.
Remember that this whole factory turbo-charged, pocket tuner scene began with the WRX in 2001. That car was the standard for performance at a reasonable price. Anybody with a decent job could afford one. Since the WRX hit the USDM 5 years ago there's been a rat race from other manufacturers to compete with it...Mazdaspeed Protege, Nissan Spec V, Dodge SRT-4, Chevy Cobalt SS, etc.
And make no mistake, if WRX sales weren't what they were Mistubishi would have never brought over the Evo and Subaru would never had to answer with a USDM STi. The WRX started a lot of the tuner craze and it's only fair it's back near the top of the list.
I didn't mean to flame. My apologies to anybody who thought I was angry or anything like that. I was just trying to direct something at the fanbois in here in a somewhat funny way.
It's all good man, sorry if I misunderstood. It is definitely a great way to elicit competition on all sides of the spectrum. In the next few years we'll see some pretty awesome cars.
10-20-2005, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
And there is exactly why I own one, it's not less fun that 1/3 of the year when the weather sucks, it's actually more fun <-- I was told this is a Suby driver
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10-20-2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Remember that this whole factory turbo-charged, pocket tuner scene began with the WRX in 2001. That car was the standard for performance at a reasonable price. Anybody with a decent job could afford one. Since the WRX hit the USDM 5 years ago there's been a rat race from other manufacturers to compete with it...Mazdaspeed Protege, Nissan Spec V, Dodge SRT-4, Chevy Cobalt SS, etc.
10-20-2005, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
I'm not sure but wasn't the eclipse/talon and fc rx7 the first affordable turbo tuner cars?
10-20-2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
I'm not sure but wasn't the eclipse/talon and fc rx7 the first affordable turbo tuner cars?
10-20-2005, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The market was still rather niche back then. The number of mods available for DSMs for a long time wasn't anywhere close to what we'd expect from cars today. It's was also quite rare to see a modded import back then.
I think you're right about the niche market and I kind of liked it that way. I really think the Fast and the Furious made everything blow up. Good for the aftermarket but like everything else there are some drawbacks(rice).
But yeah, I definately remember the hype from the wrx in 2000. I test drove one and they are amazing while in boost. I was dissapointed at the looks though. I really wished that they kept the impreza rs coupe look.
10-20-2005, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Yeah the 1G DSM's had a big tuner scene. Still do. Damn expensive and unreliable cars though. Some of the old DSM guys who migrated to an Evo have said that for every $2 you spent on making the car faster, you'de have to spend $1 just to maintain it. The AWD Talon TSI was a beast though. My brother had one and it was fun. The 2nd and 3rd generation DSM's were dookie though. Then the fabled Honda crowd started getting big (sigh) and we went about 5-8 years without real factory turbo-charged performance. During that time domestics like Mustangs and Camaros came center stage again. The WRX didn't begin the tuner scene by any means, but it brought on a Rennaisance if nothing else.
10-20-2005, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
yeah those days were sweet. my buddy had the dsm and I had the t2. They were the kings of the import scene back then. But yeah, reliability sucked. But hey, It felt nice to have a car that could run with a stang. Those domestic guys didn't know what was going on back then. rx what, dsm who, It was great!
10-20-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Yeah the 1G DSM's had a big tuner scene. Still do. Damn expensive and unreliable cars though. Some of the old DSM guys who migrated to an Evo have said that for every $2 you spent on making the car faster, you'de have to spend $1 just to maintain it. The AWD Talon TSI was a beast though. My brother had one and it was fun. The 2nd and 3rd generation DSM's were dookie though. Then the fabled Honda crowd started getting big (sigh) and we went about 5-8 years without real factory turbo-charged performance. During that time domestics like Mustangs and Camaros came center stage again. The WRX didn't begin the tuner scene by any means, but it brought on a Rennaisance if nothing else.
10-20-2005, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Haha so true! I worked at a gas station in highschool and all the older highschoolers with cars who worked their had old muscle cars or newer 5.0 Mustangs. This one dude had a Talon TSI. The paint was peeling off and the interior creaked and moaned, but he did some stuff to the engine. He raced a guy with a 350ci '70 El Camino one night after work on an expressway that ran right next to the gas station. Everybody saw it. The DSM got off the line in a whirling dirbish and put maybe 3 or 4 car lengths on that thing by 100mph. Nobody ever made fun of that car after that, although it spend many nights up on the lift after the owner had left. Stuff was always breaking or needing to be replaced.
10-21-2005, 04:07 AM
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My reply about the aftermarket concerning the RX-8 was in jest, it would appear that individuals on this forum are a little touchier than I am used to. I already have a modification path in mind. But, that is not why I bought the RX-8, I bought this car for what it is. I bought the WRX for what it could be, and I believe the way that I have mine set up is the way it should have come stock. As far as the new ones are concerned, I would love to have that kind of power stock; I saw a few in person today that did not look too bad. I will just have to get used to the new look.
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