2005 BMW M5 official Pics... Yeah!
07-09-2004, 10:21 AM
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I dig the new styling personally, the B-Mers were looking pretty stale for a while, now when you drive around and see one in traffic etc. there is no mistaking them, even if some folks are going "what the heck is that, ewww", at least their new shapes don't people to sleep like the older ones
07-10-2004, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8MN
Well, it looks a lot better than the 745Li, which, to my mind, is one of the most hideous cars on the road. Still think the 5er looks like a Toyota on steroids and i drive is a lousy interface. The smg is a joke, an auto or regular manual will be better. The smg does not shift well in auto mode, and most buyers will use it there. IMHO BMW has taken a turn for the worse and Benz is going to eat their lunch - make mine an E55!
In the ///M cars (M3 is the only car currently on sale, but the upcoming M5 will have an smg option as well), drive logic will be included and the result is butter smooth shifts. In downshifts, the engine automaticlly blips itself, making it look like a perfect shift every time you do it.
sry for the tangent, but i love BMW's too much to let this one slide
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07-11-2004, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JeupRX-8
07-13-2004, 07:11 PM
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Those two Benz's are extremely heavy, try 5,000 lbs.; and they are $180k USD. On a track, they would suck because they are soooo damn heavy. BMW ///M said in a previous article that the new M5 beat the last M5's Nurberging lap time by 25 seconds. If you look at it this way, the last M5 beat the hell out of the E55 AMG and RS6; the new one will destroy them.
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07-13-2004, 08:46 PM
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A couple of things about the new M5: Does anyone think that a 5.0L V-10 with an 8250 RPM redline spell reliability issues? Granted it's still only 100 HP/L, but that's still a big engine to be rev'ed up to 8250. The E46 M3 I-6 has a similiar specific output and rev's to only 8k and I've heard reliability issues with that.
How do you people think the new M5's performance will stack up to the new M3 (with V8)? I would hope the new M3 would still be the performance leader the BMW, but 500 horses is alot - even at 3900+ lbs.
Overall, I like the M5 - even with its Pontiac Grand Am tail lights :p .
How do you people think the new M5's performance will stack up to the new M3 (with V8)? I would hope the new M3 would still be the performance leader the BMW, but 500 horses is alot - even at 3900+ lbs.
Overall, I like the M5 - even with its Pontiac Grand Am tail lights :p .
07-14-2004, 10:06 AM
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I like the styling personally, while I don't like the styling of the Z, 5, 6, or 7 series that much (I guess I only like the 3 series really) and I wonder what the performance figures will be. If I had a lot of money I would have an ///M. However if you are looking for reliability I think that you shouldn't be looking at a BMW.
07-15-2004, 10:37 PM
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The new M3 with have a 3.6 to 3.8 V8. Expect over 100 hp / liter and it will weigh lighter than the last I6 worth 333bhp. It will be roughly the same performance as the new M5 (the last M3 & M5 had same performance 0-60 & 1/4). Expect to see upwards of 8,600-rpm as BMW is trying to show their inspiration of racing on their ///M high-revving engines; and am SMG3 7-speed tranny ONLY. BMW ///M will never make a true manual tranny after this E46 M3 ends production in MY2006.
In regards to the reliability of the M3's 7,900-rpm I6; they had a problem with the S-54 engine on the first years model (MY2001). It was recalled and replaced with a new engine, a new 4-year, 50,000 warranty started back up after the engine was replaced. I forget what this problem was, but it was the same problem that we had on our '01 M3.
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In regards to the reliability of the M3's 7,900-rpm I6; they had a problem with the S-54 engine on the first years model (MY2001). It was recalled and replaced with a new engine, a new 4-year, 50,000 warranty started back up after the engine was replaced. I forget what this problem was, but it was the same problem that we had on our '01 M3.
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07-15-2004, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JeupRX-8
In regards to the reliability of the M3's 7,900-rpm I6; they had a problem with the S-54 engine on the first years model (MY2001). It was recalled and replaced with a new engine, a new 4-year, 50,000 warranty started back up after the engine was replaced. I forget what this problem was, but it was the same problem that we had on our '01 M3.
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07-16-2004, 08:38 AM
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I witnessed 3 M3 engine failures in '01&'02. All the same cause; some sort of oil system problem leading to rod-bearing failures and parts coming through the side of the block.......ouch!!
07-16-2004, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Jay Leno summed up my feelings on the new 5 during his review as part of R&T's Readers Choice awards show on SPEED channel. "Nice to drive. But unlike an Italian car, where you relish the chance wash every curve with love & care, this car, ehhhhh just throw it in the car wash" .
I agree- the car stirs no passion, although I'm sure it's very competent and efficient- but the true car lover sees something different in his relationship with his car.
I would sooner own a 1973 Lancia Fulvia than a four door doctor's car.
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07-16-2004, 08:50 PM
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I agree- the car stirs no passion, although I'm sure it's very competent and efficient- but the true car lover sees something different in his relationship with his car.
07-17-2004, 07:33 PM
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07-17-2004, 08:33 PM
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Damn, I guess if you're all about #'s that AMG65 is for you. Personally, I've never been much of a Mercedes fan for anything. I've always preferred BMW over Merc.
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07-19-2004, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rxtreme
I'd love to show him up with a car that costs less than half the price of his.
You car may handle better, but any time there is anything remotely staight he will more then make it up.
07-19-2004, 08:28 PM
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Sorry but I don't see that happening. The next M5 will have ungodly performance. Even on a track the RX8 will have a hard time keeping up.
