2007-8 Skyline GT-R 35; what do you think
#27
I wonder what Infinity/Nissan will call it...the G35-R? I think it has to be in the price range of the new M3 ($55k-$65k) if anybody is going to buy it. It's only been very recently that Infinity sales have taken off. IIRC they're growing at a much bigger clip than Lexus, Acura, MB, BMW or any of the other luxury lines. Now that they have been officially accepted as a bonafied luxury brand in the USDM, they need to start targeting other luxury high performers...
#29
Originally Posted by Steiner
I wonder what Infinity/Nissan will call it...the G35-R? I think it has to be in the price range of the new M3 ($55k-$65k) if anybody is going to buy it. It's only been very recently that Infinity sales have taken off. IIRC they're growing at a much bigger clip than Lexus, Acura, MB, BMW or any of the other luxury lines. Now that they have been officially accepted as a bonafied luxury brand in the USDM, they need to start targeting other luxury high performers...
The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons.
#32
Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons.
I would definately consider one if I'm having a good year (or had a couple good years and I can somehow through the grace of God convince my wife it's a good purchase ). I've always loved the M3, the Vette and some of the other RWD sports cars, but after owning an AWD drive car I'll forever be impartial to this platform. I can't wait to see the peformance numbers and the official MSRP. This thing sounds like a beast.
#34
Originally Posted by crimson-rain
Z-tuned R34. 10 sec production car. JGTC spec engine and it IS totally streetable. Sports Compact did an article on it. It was fittingly called "King".
#35
Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I think it's just going to be GT-R, but that's just a guess. I don't think in this case just outperforming the M cars is going to be enough, and I also think it's going to have to outperform the new Z06 to be any sort of success. Today it's bang for the buck that matters most, the RX-8 is a perfect example of that... It handles great, it's got great balance, it's a lot of car for the moeny, and very few are buying it because there are a good amount of cheaper cars that will take it in a straight line.
The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons.
The new GT-R is also going to have to take well to mods which many performance oriented car buyers look at. It doesn't take much to get an Evo or STi into the 11s and people will look at that when trying to justify the price if they're buying the car for mostly performance reasons.
2. the vq doesn't take well to mods, FI is hard as the guts are weak and need to be replaced, unless they stick something different in it(unlikely as nissan likes to stick the VQ in everything from their entire SUV line to the sedan line to the sports car because they're cheap asses)
#36
Originally Posted by StealthFox
1. the GTR will never outgun the Z06, it will be miles behind it, the power/weight of the upcoming c6 z06 will be very high, and the G35 is a heavy car thats not a sporty aluminum framed muscle
2. the vq doesn't take well to mods, FI is hard as the guts are weak and need to be replaced, unless they stick something different in it(unlikely as nissan likes to stick the VQ in everything from their entire SUV line to the sedan line to the sports car because they're cheap asses)
2. the vq doesn't take well to mods, FI is hard as the guts are weak and need to be replaced, unless they stick something different in it(unlikely as nissan likes to stick the VQ in everything from their entire SUV line to the sedan line to the sports car because they're cheap asses)
#37
Many N/A engines don't take well to FI without major engine upgrades if you want them to be reliable. However the new GT-R VQ will already be FI so odds are it will be easy to get more power.
1. the GTR will never outgun the Z06, it will be miles behind it, the power/weight of the upcoming c6 z06 will be very high, and the G35 is a heavy car thats not a sporty aluminum framed muscle
#38
One single race in Best Motoring doesn't prove anything. There was also one race where an S2000 finished in front of an Elise, does that mean the S2000 is better than the Elise?
Again, this isn't 1989 anymore, the glory days of the R32 are long gone. The G35x weighs like 3700lbs, which means it would need at least 600hp just to keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straight line, never mind how poorly it will turn or brake with all that extra heft.
Again, this isn't 1989 anymore, the glory days of the R32 are long gone. The G35x weighs like 3700lbs, which means it would need at least 600hp just to keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straight line, never mind how poorly it will turn or brake with all that extra heft.
#39
Who said it's going to be a G35? Is the new mustang a Thunderbird? Was the last mustang in its final years a Fairmont? Nope. Just because Nissan is taking that platform as the starting point doesn't mean that it will so closely resemble it in the end. I'd wait and see what comes.
#40
Originally Posted by Japan8
Just because Nissan is taking that platform as the starting point doesn't mean that it will so closely resemble it in the end. I'd wait and see what comes.
However, this would be the car to do it with since it's seen as a legend among many auto enthusiasts.
#41
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I don't see why a new Skyline would have to outdo the new Z06. That's a pretty tall order if we're speculating the price being at or below the Z06. If they get the car to be as good as the Z06, that should be enough.
Some specs and technical on the new Z06:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/
Some specs and technical on the new Z06:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/
#42
Originally Posted by m477
One single race in Best Motoring doesn't prove anything. There was also one race where an S2000 finished in front of an Elise, does that mean the S2000 is better than the Elise?
Again, this isn't 1989 anymore, the glory days of the R32 are long gone. The G35x weighs like 3700lbs, which means it would need at least 600hp just to keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straight line, never mind how poorly it will turn or brake with all that extra heft.
Again, this isn't 1989 anymore, the glory days of the R32 are long gone. The G35x weighs like 3700lbs, which means it would need at least 600hp just to keep up with a C6 Z06 in a straight line, never mind how poorly it will turn or brake with all that extra heft.
As far as the G35 is concerned, it's not a GTR. Yes, the C6 Z06 can take the 32, 33, and 34 in straightline. BUT, I would love to see both go at it on a track eventhough that's pretty much unfair (C6 Z06 450-500HP or something). Throw in the R-Tuned (480hp) to make it fair.
#43
Based on Infinity's awesome sales in the USDM, if any manufacturer could afford a "from the ground up" new model introduction I'd think it would be them. However I think the Skyline is already has and is being developed as a Nissan in Japan. Nissan has chosen to badge it as an Infinity because they don't expect anybody is the USDM to seriously entertain the thought of spending $60k-$70k on a Nissan. At least that's my understanding of the reasoning behind the Skyline wearing an Infinity nameplate.
#44
Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Many N/A engines don't take well to FI without major engine upgrades if you want them to be reliable. However the new GT-R VQ will already be FI so odds are it will be easy to get more power.
#46
I don't hate on nissan as I respect the power numbers(especially the torque) but I can't stand the execution of these cars. Every nissan I have driven is just plain boring. I also can't stand these GTR fanbois that never even sat inside one.
Anyways, I would take a new supra :p
Anyways, I would take a new supra :p
#48
Even if it's based off the G35 platform and looks like it, it could be a completely different animal as well (ala lancer to lancer EVO transformation). I'm sure they (Nissan/Infiniti) are sensitive to the fact that the Skyline has become a kind of legend, and won't do anything too dumb to screw it up. If they make it look anything like that red car that looks kinda like a CGT, I'll be a happy camper.
One thing I think they need in the styling, are the offset taillights to keep some semblance of the old ones, and a strong, aggressive line running from the bottom of the door to above the rear fenders.
One thing I think they need in the styling, are the offset taillights to keep some semblance of the old ones, and a strong, aggressive line running from the bottom of the door to above the rear fenders.
#49
Having sat in a GTR33 and GTR34, I can say that their interiors suck but the cars obviously perform well. Anyone in SoCal could have seen the Signal Skyline at SuperAutobacs a long while back. Or anyone in SoCal could go to RBMotoring (if they are still around) or XS Engineering and check out all the Skylines they have at their shops.
#50
Originally Posted by Red Devil
I don't see why a new Skyline would have to outdo the new Z06. That's a pretty tall order if we're speculating the price being at or below the Z06. If they get the car to be as good as the Z06, that should be enough.
Some specs and technical on the new Z06:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/
Some specs and technical on the new Z06:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/
Tell you guys what..somebody get the new skyline.. i'm getting the new Z06 (hopefully soon) and we'll find a place and we'll lay speculation down in the form of long rubber tracks on an asphalt surface.
:D