i don't see what the huge issue is. the corvette engine is and has been used in other vehicles before. i was used in the impala ss of the mid 90s. it was used in the camaro's and firebirds of the late 90s...

and from all of my examples, it doesn't matter that one is chevy/pontiac/saturn/gmc/what not...they are all gm products, and therefore have access to each other's parts/platforms.

same thing with audi/vw, nissan/infiniti, toyota/lexus/scion, honda/acura...

 

Kappa Chassis

smaller, lighter just what the Camaro always needed.

 

My first car purchase was a used '68 Camaro, red/with the black racing stripes! I loved it and yea, it hauled butt!! My older bro had the '69 Chevelle SS.

He's a total 'vette man as he is about to order his third one. But he stayed single and alas, I didn't and became a proto-typical SUV dude for all these years...until NOW!! woo-hoo!

Mywife had one of the first new convertible mustang GT's last month, but she had to turn it in when she left FMC.

I wish I'd never have sold my '68 'maro, but now I've got that same orgasmic feeling with My Shinka.

Cheers!

 

"bitchin camaro bitchin camaro i ran over my neighbor
bitchin camaro bitchin camaro now in all the papers
i ran over some old lady last night at the county fair
but i didnt ge in any trouble becasue my dad's the mayor

bitchin camaro bitchin camaro........"

dead milkmen ^

 

The biggest issue has nothing to do with platforms or anything like that.

It's the Unions. And, no, that's not some sarcastic anti-Union comment.

GM has a contract with the Unions that says that all Camaros MUST be built by the Canadian Auto Worker Union at a plant that no longer exists because GM tore it down. GM has a lot of work to do with the Union and the Canadian Government before it can even think about beginning Camaro production again.

The fact that all previous design work was done on the Zeta platform which GM will no longer be using in the US for at least several years is also going to hold the Camaro off for the forseeable future. GM has other RWD chassis but they are either too expensive or too small, and then they're still stuck with a contract requiring Camaros be built in a factory that doesn't even exist any more. GM could change the name to allow it to build the car elsewhere, but it's unlikely to do so and it would probably **** off the Union and the Canadian government if it did that anyhow.

 

To build on what Sigma said, GM is in a world of financial difficulty. After the fall out, maybe a Camaro will come or something like it. But right now, they tried to make the GTO work as kind of compromise for the enthusiast crowd and look how that's selling. Yeah, the GTO is MSRP in the mid 30's, not 20's, but still not a good indication for them.

 

Actually Red Devil, very much unlike the 2004 model, the 2005 GTO is selling quite well. It's meeting all expectations and it was selling so well under the "Employee-Discount-For-All" deal that it was removed from the program altogether when it was renewed a few days ago.

But, it is not a particularly profitable car. If GM is making money on it, it's not much. GM hoped it would bring some attention to Pontiac, unfortunately that faltered with the poor 2004 performane. But it is making it to bring utilization up on the Holden factory to spread costs in an effort to help make Holden more profitable as a whole.

 

didn't know that about the union contracts. Good enough reason to scrap the Camaro forever, and build a smaller, lighter, good handling, 350Z destroyer. It'd be easier now that the Vette has so much power. It was hard to keep from stepping on the Vette's toes in the past, powerwise.

 

everyone!!

bitchin camaro bitchin camaro......

 

That thing is hot! Makes the new mustang look like crap, but then again it doesn't take much to do that anyway.

 

I think somewhere near the bottom of the article, it mentioned GM hoping to sell at least 110,000 of these vehicles a year. Didn't they learn a lesson from the previous F-Body?

 

All GM needs to do is produce a Camaro with real lines instead of the mutant stuff they have been turning out as of late. People would be all over the GTO if it didn't make the casual observer throw up.

 

The problem is that it can't even get noticed enough to make someone throw up. After the 400 HP LS2 was dropped in, can't complain about the performance.... and the interior is one of the nicest in the GM lineup.

 

I actually like how the GTO is ultra subtle. Its one of the few current generation sleeper cars.

I think the whole "look at how big my ***** is based on my wing/wheel size and multiple vents/scoops" thing has gotten way out of hand.

 

I prefer uniqueness to the look of something that reminds me of a larger Cavalier (replaced by the Cobalt) or Monte Carlo.

 

i'm of the opinion that a muscle car should look like one, but again styling is always subjective

make note of the new hood on the 05.... hood scoops

 

So is GM going to start pulling "The Death of Superman" and the Rolling Stones "Final Tour" gimmics? Get you to buy the current version because they tell you that vehicle is being retired/discontinued, and then a few years later release it again. Oh well, I guess it worked for George Lucas and his endless versions of the first trilogy.

 

Ijust don't think GM has the ***** to make this car like that. By the time it got appoved it would end up looking like a Saturn Ion and running like a G6.

 

The hood scoop is an option that has a "delete" selection in the purchasing screen. Aka you can get an 05 with a standard non grand am hood.

 

The GTO will be losing the Hood Scope delete option next year. They sold almost none that way.

 

 

it's already up for redesign as a 2008 model

 

That Camaro design is really cool. It would make me seriously 'think' about switching.
I kinda like the looks, however, of the blue one on the bottom of the page.....it certainly brings back memories of the 60's styling. But if they really don't want to go full on retro, then the Orange one has my vote.

Hmmmm....is the Firebird/Trans Am far behind?

 

I like how the title of the page says "spied" and there's a picture of a drawing

 

Simply changing out the grill makes a difference in how retro it looks. I hope they do bring it back and it looks like the green or orange not with that billet grille though.