http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/24/2...d-in-kentucky/
430hp, likely in response to the germans, M3, RS4 etc

 

in response to them...ehh...not really.
Making room for the camaro...now thats a possibility

 

I would agree, the Camaro will likely get a detuned LS2, prolly 380HP or so.

Kinda makes you wonder why you even need an Z06, other than the light weight aspects.

 

i doubt the regular camaro will have 380hp, maybe the ss version or something.

 

dosnt make much sense.
they can easily detune the ls2 for the camaro without going to a new engine on the vette

 

Why detune an lS2? GTO had it...parts will be cheaper for the new Camaro.

...also....i've heard from sources close to the Camaro production that it will not be using the LS2, they've been talking about using the LS3 for the Camaro and a new C6 for a while now...but i'm not saying much more than that :x

 

whatever the case is, im just saying it make more sense that the LS3 is for them to stay competitive vs the german engines making 400+hp than to make room for the camaro. they make it a point to make the vette the best bang for the buck.

corvette dosnt usually change engine in the middle of a generation.

 

I see no reason for GM to stop doing what they have always done with the 'maro... provide a detuned version of the current Corvette engine.

What this essentially does is create a HUGE aftermarket for EXPENSIVE Corvette parts. Case in point, the LS6. A main difference between the LS6 and LS1 were the heads. Though, those heads were transplantable between the two engines. So, people bought them up, gidgetted them around to work perfectly, and threw them on there. I can not remember the cost of LS6 heads off of my head but they were over $1,000. Cha-ching.

 

This basically cements a 400HP SS Camaro doesn't it. I was wondering how they would distance public perception between the Camaro and Corvette.

 

I am sure weight will be a factor here too. The Camaro is built on a heavier platform and will have a lot more sheetmetal than the vette. Even with the same hp the vette should prove to be faster.

 

I said public perception but nonetheless, you are correct i'm sure.

 

I got rid of my Camaro last year, said point in my life. The 8 cheered things up though. By the time the New Camaro comes out the 8 will be paid for and hopefully I'll be making more money. So I foresee one in my driveway

 

Bob Lutz said the Camaro will be priced competitively to the Mustang...so you wont need to spend much more than the 8...maybe even less.

 

I heard they are having trouble making it competitive, especially the V6. For Chevy's sake, they better not make the same mistake again.

 

i hope people here arnt having the bullish attitude that theres going to be a 400hp camaro starting at around 25 (price of mustang gt). thatd be pretty delusional

 

I'm guessing the V8 version whether they badge it as a Z28 or SS will be in the low 30's. At least I hope, realistically probably mid 30's. Still doable though, just please don't let it be more than 40K

 

low-mid 30k like you said sounds pretty realistic

 

They will be making a v6 option for it...look at the stang...how many 6s do you see compared to the 8s...many more

And they are going to try to make it around stang GTs price, maybe slightly more, maybe slightly less...they haven't anounced real numbers yet, just goals

 

Mid 30s wouldnt sell well...look at the GTO...or the old camaros/firebirds...not many wanted to pay 36k for that car...not for what it had.

The best way to do it...make it cheap like the stang, 27k bare...and go all the way up to 33-36k loaded with goodies.

 

That's what I'm hoping for, anywhere b/w 30K & 38K will be OK with me. No way will I bother with a V6. The Challenger may be another contender as well. Must say that GM screwed up with the GTO, I don't know about you guys put to me it looks just like another Pontiac. The Camaro on the other looks HOT! Now I just need to spend the next 2 years convincing the wife

 

Does anyone kno how many liters this things suppose to be.

 

I'm hopeing for 5.7L

 

No way, more almost definetely...they haven't used a 5.7L since the LS1s and the LS6s...LS2 is 6.0, LS7 is 7.0 It will be somewhere around there

"There is no replacement for displacement"

 

All that money for such a ugly car.

 

More things to be added to the conversation are things such as GM planning to make the Camaro faster at every trim level (something I read somewhere)! How they go about doing that is actually the big question. Ford is planning on bringing out a new V-8 in the Mustang from some of the things I've read. More than likely this will mean a jump in hp. GM may be ensuring the Camaro remains the faster car. As far as keeping the Corvette on top that is not a problem for them even if they share the BASE engine with the Camaro. They still have the Z06 with 500hp and the rumored SS (AKA "The Blue Devil") with north of 600hp! Even if they share the base engine it's not that big a deal...I've got an issue of C&D that has the base Vette with 400hp accelerating faster than the 500hp Mustang GT500 (more than 3 sec faster from 0-150)...and of course the Camaro is going to be heavier than the Vette. It should be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out!