2009 Camaro pics
#52
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: University of Maryland
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
todays autoweek preview of the detroit autoshow stats that it will be powered by a LS2. even if they detune it, it should make at least 350hp shattering the stang GT's performance + its got individual rear wheel suspension
#53
Shakezula, the Mic Rula
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by playdoh43
todays autoweek preview of the detroit autoshow stats that it will be powered by a LS2. even if they detune it, it should make at least 350hp shattering the stang GT's performance + its got individual rear wheel suspension
#54
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: University of Maryland
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
well see. unless they put a supercharger in the GT, which i doubt they would, i dont think ford has anything that can stand against the LS2. its going to be interesting though, im looking forward to the return of the muscle car battle.
#55
The anti-ricer
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hillsdale, NJ
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by playdoh43
well see. unless they put a supercharger in the GT, which i doubt they would, i dont think ford has anything that can stand against the LS2. its going to be interesting though, im looking forward to the return of the muscle car battle.
![Frown](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/frown.gif)
#56
Originally Posted by snizzle
Yeah, but who knows what will happen to the Mustang between now and 2009.
#57
Shakezula, the Mic Rula
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
Well, whatever happens, history tells us that the Z28 will make about 70+ HP more than the GT, with the V6 only slightly below the GT.
I hope GM has learned some lessons before they bring the Camaro/Firebird back.
#58
New Pic and a design video
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3124
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3124
#59
Even My Dog Searches
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
New Pic and a design video
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3124
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3124
#61
Beauty Without Rice
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Anybody know where the door handles are? And I thought... that they completely ditched the Camaro because of lack of sales. Oh well, never know these days. It's nice to see companies starting to make concepts of nice sports cars... now if Toyota can get the Volta on the road or some other Supra like car, I'd be happy.
#62
Originally Posted by Avalonstar
Anybody know where the door handles are? And I thought... that they completely ditched the Camaro because of lack of sales. Oh well, never know these days. It's nice to see companies starting to make concepts of nice sports cars... now if Toyota can get the Volta on the road or some other Supra like car, I'd be happy.
You're not supposed to drive it.
#66
Beauty Without Rice
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hmm.... it's not that bad... very... american? Anyway, funny how they're also using the 4 back lights like they would put on the 'vettes. But for some reason it reminds me of the Charger... but ignore that thought.
#67
The anti-ricer
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hillsdale, NJ
Posts: 1,888
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not good enough....how bout a teaser video
mms://c9o.earthcache.net/woc-01.medi..._camaro_hi.wmv
mms://c9o.earthcache.net/woc-01.medi..._camaro_hi.wmv
#70
Int'l Man of Mystery
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
As much as I ama Mustand guy... this is a badass Camaro. If the price and seating position (the previous two gen sucked BADLY) are right... I could drive one of these.
#73
Like a record, baby...
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Avalon, it was due to lack of sales. However, the lack of sales did not stem from a lack of interest. The Camaro's and Firebirds was too much speed for too little money as far as the insurance companies were concerned. One of the main target buyers, young men, simply could not afford the insurance. My father bought an '02 when I was 18. We called up the insurance company for fun and asked how much it would be for me to insure it on my own policy. With a clean record, it still came to about $5000/yr.
I've been told by more than one dealer that on many occasions they've had young customers putting down deposits and getting ready to sign papers, only to back out once they called thier insurance company.
The insurance companies were partly right. The Z28's and Trans AM's can very VERY fast. People often under-estimate them due to the purposely under-rated HP numbers and the high weight.
Also, these cars are not like the 8 when it comes to engine mods. Being that both used a purposefully de-tuned Corvette engine, (GM didn't want the Camaro and the Corvette competing) they can be pumped up to very high HP and TQ numbers for very little money. For a few thousand dollars you can build a 500+ HP car without FI and using stock internals. The result was a lot of 17-24yo morons wrapping their cars around telephone poles at 180mph. So in a sense, sadly, it was those who loved the F-bodies that eventually killed them off. I’ve heard rumor that the use of the Chevelle name was being contemplated for this reason, so that the insurance companies wouldn't look at the new Camaro’s as another nightmare liability.
I've been told by more than one dealer that on many occasions they've had young customers putting down deposits and getting ready to sign papers, only to back out once they called thier insurance company.
The insurance companies were partly right. The Z28's and Trans AM's can very VERY fast. People often under-estimate them due to the purposely under-rated HP numbers and the high weight.
Also, these cars are not like the 8 when it comes to engine mods. Being that both used a purposefully de-tuned Corvette engine, (GM didn't want the Camaro and the Corvette competing) they can be pumped up to very high HP and TQ numbers for very little money. For a few thousand dollars you can build a 500+ HP car without FI and using stock internals. The result was a lot of 17-24yo morons wrapping their cars around telephone poles at 180mph. So in a sense, sadly, it was those who loved the F-bodies that eventually killed them off. I’ve heard rumor that the use of the Chevelle name was being contemplated for this reason, so that the insurance companies wouldn't look at the new Camaro’s as another nightmare liability.
#75
Registered
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: los angeles, ca
Posts: 463
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
looks wise Charger>>Camaro imo. Charger has a nice strong american look while still being somewhat understated. I would feel like an idiot driving this car around, especially with those mirrors. As usual, GM tarts thier cars up too much.
Last edited by map; 01-08-2006 at 03:04 PM.