330i vs IS350? which is better?
09-12-2005, 04:23 AM
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330i vs IS350? which is better?
I noticed that the E90 3-series isn't that good for its price, well at least compared the new lexus IS thats coming out soon. IS350 has 305hp while the 330i only has 255 =\, the 350 has awd and has all the luxuries the new bmw has (adaptive cruise control, keyless entry etc). lexus also has toyotas awesome reliability. mayb its just me but it seems like the beamer doesnt stand a chance against it =\. what do u think?
on the other hand i think the beamer looks better inside and out and it has manual unlike the 350
on the other hand i think the beamer looks better inside and out and it has manual unlike the 350
09-12-2005, 12:54 PM
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If you're shopping the premium brand and you like to DRIVE and not just sit on a couch with wheels:
BMW>Infiniti>Audi>MB&Lexus.
IMHO, Lexus gave up on chasing BMW and set its sights on Mercedes. As great as Acura is, it doesn't make the cut in my book because of one glaring offense; FWD.
BMW>Infiniti>Audi>MB&Lexus.
IMHO, Lexus gave up on chasing BMW and set its sights on Mercedes. As great as Acura is, it doesn't make the cut in my book because of one glaring offense; FWD.
09-12-2005, 09:25 PM
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Our family's experience with Bimmers are bad from 3 different kinds from a reliability standpoint: older 325i, 530i, and X5. After looking back, overpriced for what they were. I like where Infiniti is going- Why even consider a 525i when a M35 can be had for the same price? It's like people don't know what they are buying.
This new Lex looks nice (besides the hyundai looking rear lights) and isn't even released yet and people go bashing. BMW is too obvious a choice when there are many great cars around. When someone runs into a little bit of money.. they will buy a BMW and a Rolex. I wish they had taken bigger risks with the style of the 3 series... very boring to look at in print and in person although it's got great reviews. We will see what happens.
This new Lex looks nice (besides the hyundai looking rear lights) and isn't even released yet and people go bashing. BMW is too obvious a choice when there are many great cars around. When someone runs into a little bit of money.. they will buy a BMW and a Rolex. I wish they had taken bigger risks with the style of the 3 series... very boring to look at in print and in person although it's got great reviews. We will see what happens.
09-12-2005, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
yeah, you should know it's not all about HP. I would be willing to bet a ******** the chasis of the 330 is lightyears ahead of the IS350.
I would bet both of them....and yes they are brass.
BMW's are coooool.
09-12-2005, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by czr
Our family's experience with Bimmers are bad from 3 different kinds from a reliability standpoint: older 325i, 530i, and X5. After looking back, overpriced for what they were. I like where Infiniti is going- Why even consider a 525i when a M35 can be had for the same price? It's like people don't know what they are buying.
09-13-2005, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by babylou
I agree but why get the M35 when you can get a Caddy CTS-V with 400 hp and a 6 speed manual tranny for the same street price?
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09-13-2005, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dinhx8
Its an m45 that really is the comparable model, with a v8, not really the 35. i personallyh like the caddy myself, but question its handling a bit.
09-13-2005, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by babylou
I agree but why get the M35 when you can get a Caddy CTS-V with 400 hp and a 6 speed manual tranny for the same street price?
With the street price of a CTS-V going for $43k we can throw that in the mix with the I350 and the 330I
, but people usually go by MSRP :o . And to it's credit, I consider the CTS-V in the M3, S4 league.
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Originally Posted by czr
The Infiniti M series would compete more with the STS, 5-series, GS, A6 etc., in the mid-luxury segment.
With the street price of a CTS-V going for $43k we can throw that in the mix with the I350 and the 330I , but people usually go by MSRP :o . And to it's credit, I consider the CTS-V in the M3, S4 league.
With the street price of a CTS-V going for $43k we can throw that in the mix with the I350 and the 330I
, but people usually go by MSRP :o . And to it's credit, I consider the CTS-V in the M3, S4 league.If one compares a CTS-V with an M3 the Caddy is at a major disadvantage in performance tests because the CTS is the size of a 5er or M45. If one cut the price by 30% on the M45 and 5er they too would not match up favorably with an M3 in the fun to drive area.
09-13-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by babylou
I consider competing cars to be of the same type and size but not necessarily of the same price. Then I use actual price as one of my determining factors as to which vehicle I buy. Hell if one wants to use price as the common classification then there can be tests between Miata and pick-up trucks.
If one compares a CTS-V with an M3 the Caddy is at a major disadvantage in performance tests because the CTS is the size of a 5er or M45. If one cut the price by 30% on the M45 and 5er they too would not match up favorably with an M3 in the fun to drive area.
If one compares a CTS-V with an M3 the Caddy is at a major disadvantage in performance tests because the CTS is the size of a 5er or M45. If one cut the price by 30% on the M45 and 5er they too would not match up favorably with an M3 in the fun to drive area.
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
im under the impression that the CTS is in the same class as the bmw 3 series, while the bigger STS is in the 5 series class. M3 is nice, but not godly, its not invincible.
09-13-2005, 04:23 PM
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CTS is much bigger than a 3. I drove a CTS-V and loved every second of it. If had the money I'd take the caddi over the others you guys have mentioned.
09-13-2005, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
I would take a used E39 M5 over all that. Imola Red/black please.
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I guess somebody is looking for an answer of other than the fact that the CTS-V is ugly. Personal choice, but I would never get a CTS-V, even if it was cheaper than an M45.
As for the BMW & Lexus. I get Autoweek & they just ran that comparison, showed that the IS 350 basically ate the BMW 330's lunch on all acceleration tests, but that the BMW had better brakes, & outhandled the Lexus.
As for the BMW & Lexus. I get Autoweek & they just ran that comparison, showed that the IS 350 basically ate the BMW 330's lunch on all acceleration tests, but that the BMW had better brakes, & outhandled the Lexus.
09-13-2005, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
I would take a used E39 M5 over all that. Imola Red/black please.
I was thinking M6....can you feel it.
09-15-2005, 08:34 PM
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wow. I had a feeling but then I said noooooooo!! nobody would take a two letter word (of) then replace it with another two letter word (ov) to mean the same thing. That's just ridiculous.
09-15-2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
wow. I had a feeling but then I said noooooooo!! nobody would take a two letter word (of) then replace it with another two letter word (ov) to mean the same thing. That's just ridiculous.