Accord Hybrid more power than 8?
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I drove a Hybrid, and although they boast alot of HP, they feel about the same with the added weight as the original car before the Hybrid.
So, what you are really saying is that you don't like the fact that the V6 accord has 240 hp.
Even with that HP, its alot heavier, and has crap for handling. Stock vs Stock, the Rx8 would smoke it in any kind of race, even a drag.
About the only thing a Stock Accord V6 could beat an RX8 in, is a race to the Beach with 2 suitcases, and thats only because the Rx8 would have to make two trips. :D
So, what you are really saying is that you don't like the fact that the V6 accord has 240 hp.
Even with that HP, its alot heavier, and has crap for handling. Stock vs Stock, the Rx8 would smoke it in any kind of race, even a drag.
About the only thing a Stock Accord V6 could beat an RX8 in, is a race to the Beach with 2 suitcases, and thats only because the Rx8 would have to make two trips. :D
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I think it might be a 15hp pancake motor sandwiched between the motor and trans (like a flywheel). I think the RX8 could use one of these to boost low end torque as well as fuel economy/range. Don't know about the extra weight of batteries thought - that I wouldn't like. But I believe we will see MANY simplified hybrid systems like this in our automotive future.
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Originally Posted by IcemanVKO
...About the only thing a Stock Accord V6 could beat an RX8 in, is a race to the Beach with 2 suitcases, and thats only because the Rx8 would have to make two trips. :D
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Honda has apparently done a fine job in combining the extra torque boost of the electric motor with its system of shutting down 3 of the cylinders while cruising and turning the engine off when stopped. Add in the efforts to compensate for the extra weight of the batteries by eliminating weight elsewhere and the Accord Hybrid is a clever approach to squeezing cruising power out of every last drop of fuel. (I believe that the hybrid is only about 150 lbs heavier than a stock Accord despite the penalty of over 300 lbs in batteries, electric motor, etc.) Of course, you can't get a sunroof on the Hybrid (extra weight) and the back seats don't fold (batteries are placed behind the back seat.)
All in all, Honda deserves kudos, imho, for using existing and imaginative technology to reduce reliance on dinosaur juice. The characteristic of the RX-8 I like the least is the feeling that I'm riding with Osama Bin Laden whenever I drive it.
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Originally Posted by jsh1120
...All in all, Honda deserves kudos, imho, for using existing and imaginative technology to reduce reliance on dinosaur juice. The characteristic of the RX-8 I like the least is the feeling that I'm riding with Osama Bin Laden whenever I drive it...
Don't feel too bad. I mean, if you feel that way about the 8's gas mileage, imagine how you'd feel with the H2's getting 8mpg's! (or something close to it). Now those are some mean gas guzzlers...
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Besides, I think until cars, or the world for that matter, make a significant change to the point that dino juice is rarely needed, i think Bin Laden is riding shotgun with everyone...
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Originally Posted by socalightning
I think it might be a 15hp pancake motor sandwiched between the motor and trans (like a flywheel). I think the RX8 could use one of these to boost low end torque as well as fuel economy/range. Don't know about the extra weight of batteries thought - that I wouldn't like. But I believe we will see MANY simplified hybrid systems like this in our automotive future.
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Oops... I posted a new thread on driving the Hybrid Accord before I saw this one. The Accord does definitely out-accelerate my 6MT.
Unlike Mazda, Honda does appear to be accurate with its horsepower figures.
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Originally Posted by Aratinga
Oops... I posted a new thread on driving the Hybrid Accord before I saw this one. The Accord does definitely out-accelerate my 6MT.
Unlike Mazda, Honda does appear to be accurate with its horsepower figures.
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So even with the extra weight of the batteries, extra motor, etc., the hybrid still out accelerates the 8??? Even the 6mt?????
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I guess technology's starting to catch up in terms of lighter weight for batteries among other things.
Did you test drive one or was someone driving one and tried to "out pace" you?
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Originally Posted by ssjelite23
NOOOO!!!
So even with the extra weight of the batteries, extra motor, etc., the hybrid still out accelerates the 8??? Even the 6mt?????
I'm sure many people will say it depends on the driver...although I'm not saying anything about your driving skills Aratinga
I guess technology's starting to catch up in terms of lighter weight for batteries among other things.
Did you test drive one or was someone driving one and tried to "out pace" you?
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So even with the extra weight of the batteries, extra motor, etc., the hybrid still out accelerates the 8??? Even the 6mt?????
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I guess technology's starting to catch up in terms of lighter weight for batteries among other things.
Did you test drive one or was someone driving one and tried to "out pace" you?
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Originally Posted by Aratinga
See my other thread in this forum. My boyfriend works for Honda and has the car for a week... he'll be on the technical team to troubleshoot any issues the car may have. He knows how to put cars through their paces, trust me... my acceleration comment was based on how he drives both my 8 and the Accord, and the corresponding G's exerted on the passenger (me!).
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The current MT V6 accord out accelerates the RX-8 as well, it may not time wise but mashing the gas on a highway I give the nod to the Accord.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The current MT V6 accord out accelerates the RX-8 as well, it may not time wise but mashing the gas on a highway I give the nod to the Accord.....
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Originally Posted by foxman
LOL, let's see...it is slower time wise, but out accelerates, yeah I get it. I just love empirical data. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Quicker = Lower time
Faster = Higher trap speed
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Actually I was spacing out when I wrote that, time wise it's about the same (which is what I was meaning to say) and the Accord V6 runs mid 14s more consitently than the RX-8 seems to be able to. However that's with the disadvantage of FWD get it on a highway or even from a slow roll and it's not even, they trap higher in the 1/4 mile than the RX-8 and have faster times from a roll which is why I used the word faster.
Quicker = Lower time
Faster = Higher trap speed
Quicker = Lower time
Faster = Higher trap speed
Ah, ok. lol, spacing out huh? well, it IS friday... :D
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Originally Posted by army_rx8
i dunno more money for 37 highway 29 city BOOO my friend got 35 city liek 42 highway....haha either way it's a lot more than my 8:p
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Originally Posted by markd
Actually, if you consider that alternative fuel vehicles come with tax breaks, it looks even more favorable for the Accord Hybrid.
i don't suppose we could get a tax break for having a unique engine? :D
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Originally Posted by markd
I wish! That might begin to make up for the amount we spend in gas on a monthly basis!
I read an article from The Press Enterprise, Driving section, that came out Sat. 12/11/2004 and they were saying hybrids get LOWER mpgs on the street vs. highway. I thought it was the other way around.
Originally Posted by markd
my acceleration comment was based on how he drives both my 8 and the Accord, and the corresponding G's exerted on the passenger (me!).
And could it be possible the g's exerted on car isn't because the Accord is quicker but because the Accord doesn't handle as well as the 8 does?
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